Ford Sierra/Sapphire/RS500 Cosworth This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Sierra Cosworth.

Where is temperature transmitter

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 16-06-2008 | 04:37 PM
  #1  
captiva's Avatar
captiva
Thread Starter
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Alberta Canada
Default Where is temperature transmitter

Switched on the ignition only and the temp gauge went right off the dial so assuming it is the sender unit where is it on a 4x4 Sapphire Cossie, not that I have much chance of getting one over here but may be it cross references with a Mustang of Thunderbird or something like that as a sender is a sender aint it?
Old 16-06-2008 | 05:36 PM
  #2  
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,654
Likes: 18
From: swindon, wiltshire
Default

Originally Posted by captiva
Switched on the ignition only and the temp gauge went right off the dial so assuming it is the sender unit where is it on a 4x4 Sapphire Cossie, not that I have much chance of getting one over here but may be it cross references with a Mustang of Thunderbird or something like that as a sender is a sender aint it?
turbo side of the head at the front, single wire going to it, easy fix, 1/2 inch spanner and have the replacement in your hand ready to screw in as water will come out. if you lose lots of water dont forget to top up the header tank

edit to say MSD or matt lewis off here sells them
Old 16-06-2008 | 05:41 PM
  #3  
Glenn_'s Avatar
Glenn_
Glennvestite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 62,764
Likes: 1,044
From: Darlington county durham
Default

Carnt miss it fella its on the left hand side at the front on the turbo side as said above.
Old 16-06-2008 | 06:03 PM
  #4  
captiva's Avatar
captiva
Thread Starter
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Alberta Canada
Default

I aint got one there not even a wiring harness only going into alternator. Have got 3 at the back of the engine inlet side , one is ECT sender plus 2 more may be oil pressure and the other one might be temp. Is 4x4 (200 block) different from 2wd (205 block) as to where the sender is?
Old 16-06-2008 | 07:07 PM
  #5  
jon@work's Avatar
jon@work
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 8
From: Nottingham
Default

water temp gauge sender position :
2wd head - front turbo side of head
4x4 head - rear inlet side of head
Old 16-06-2008 | 07:23 PM
  #6  
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,654
Likes: 18
From: swindon, wiltshire
Default

Originally Posted by jon@work
water temp gauge sender position :
2wd head - front turbo side of head
4x4 head - rear inlet side of head
didnt realise they differ from the 2wd to 4x4 heads
Old 16-06-2008 | 07:44 PM
  #7  
captiva's Avatar
captiva
Thread Starter
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Alberta Canada
Default

Thanks peeps.
Old 17-06-2008 | 05:44 AM
  #8  
tabetha's Avatar
tabetha
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 3
From: uk
Default

As said 4wd is on the inlet side of head at rear in the little alloy bit that the heater pipe goes onto.
tabetha
Old 17-06-2008 | 08:04 AM
  #9  
Glenn_'s Avatar
Glenn_
Glennvestite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 62,764
Likes: 1,044
From: Darlington county durham
Default

sorry people i was thinking about a 2wd head ops
Old 17-06-2008 | 12:47 PM
  #10  
jon@work's Avatar
jon@work
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 2,400
Likes: 8
From: Nottingham
Default

Originally Posted by tabetha
As said 4wd is on the inlet side of head at rear in the little alloy bit that the heater pipe goes onto.
tabetha
that's for the ECU not the gauge
Old 17-06-2008 | 10:49 PM
  #11  
foreigneRS's Avatar
foreigneRS
Testing the future
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 17,597
Likes: 24
From: W. Sussex
Default

gauge going straight to max. indicates a short circuit to earth. could be the sender, but also check the wiring has not been nipped anywhere
Old 17-06-2008 | 10:51 PM
  #12  
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,654
Likes: 18
From: swindon, wiltshire
Default

Originally Posted by foreigneRS
gauge going straight to max. indicates a short circuit to earth. could be the sender, but also check the wiring has not been nipped anywhere
mine was like this; you could wiggle the sender and the insides were moving about freely - easy fix as said
Old 18-06-2008 | 12:23 AM
  #13  
captiva's Avatar
captiva
Thread Starter
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Alberta Canada
Default

Tried to pull the wire connector of and the sender came to bits Guess this is the problem but why oh why did they put the sender in first and then build the car around it!! What to take off first, oil filter, plenum chamber, inlet manifold or engine out got any ideas?????
Old 18-06-2008 | 05:13 AM
  #14  
stevecossy's Avatar
stevecossy
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
From: east yorks
Default

Ya can get it out without taking any of that stuff off, its a bit tricky but just use a deep socket and extention bar etc.
Good luck regards steve.
Old 18-06-2008 | 05:17 AM
  #15  
stevecossy's Avatar
stevecossy
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
From: east yorks
Default

Originally Posted by jon@work
that's for the ECU not the gauge
Thats the ECT sensor mate and the gauge sender is above
Old 18-06-2008 | 05:25 AM
  #16  
captiva's Avatar
captiva
Thread Starter
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Alberta Canada
Default

Wot size socket is it, and I am good to go.
Old 18-06-2008 | 05:51 AM
  #17  
stevecossy's Avatar
stevecossy
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
From: east yorks
Default

Think it is 13mm fella.
Old 18-06-2008 | 08:58 AM
  #18  
LHD220Turbo's Avatar
LHD220Turbo
10K+ Poster!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 10,654
Likes: 18
From: swindon, wiltshire
Default

Originally Posted by captiva
Wot size socket is it, and I am good to go.
1/2 " i believe
Old 18-06-2008 | 11:02 AM
  #19  
stevecossy's Avatar
stevecossy
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
From: east yorks
Default

Either 1/2 inch or 13mm should be ok as nearly same mate.
Old 19-06-2008 | 05:32 AM
  #20  
captiva's Avatar
captiva
Thread Starter
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 464
Likes: 0
From: Alberta Canada
Default

Thanks guys
Old 03-01-2010 | 06:18 PM
  #21  
Shredtheibanez's Avatar
Shredtheibanez
Part of the Furniture
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
From: Plymouth
Default Haha, Got the same problem

Originally Posted by captiva
why oh why did they put the sender in first and then build the car around it!!
Blantantly my new signature! haha


Back to subject, I have the same issue, gonna replace the sender, probs the problem. Thanks for the advice all.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Derek Burleigh
Technical help Q & A
14
16-09-2015 07:27 PM
oilman
General Car Related Discussion.
18
16-03-2005 04:47 PM
foreigneRS
Technical essay Archives
0
20-07-2004 12:44 PM
foreigneRS
Technical essay Archives
0
20-07-2004 12:06 PM
L33 BYT
General Car Related Discussion.
6
06-07-2004 10:25 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 04:17 AM.