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Old 29-01-2013, 05:38 PM
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is this a good price from cnc heads
cnc head work £475
race taping £100
alloy bronze guides £160 set
larger valves £185 set
stem seals £8 set
springs and retainers £120 set
let me know if i can help
cheers ric
for my cvh sounds good to me any one else used these
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Is your current head completely scrap?

I personally would use standard valves
Standard used springs and retainers
Bronze guides at your discretion, I imaging for that money they are being fully fitted and the valve seat re cut?

The 'race taping' isn't that worth while but does look very pretty

So you can knock 300 off the total and not loose much. However the cnc head work does seem very reasonably priced!

Rob,
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why go cnc? is it a big power build, or just for a little extra poke?
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What is race taping out of interest?
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What is race taping out of interest?
They polish the ports after machining for a mostly aesthetic improvement
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Ah ok so bragging/pub talk word for polishing

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Originally Posted by MD Cos
why go cnc? is it a big power build, or just for a little extra poke?
yea its for big power

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Whats all this cnc buisiness please ?

Im old school all the people i know who port heads do it by hand and eye ?

Is this all done on a cnc machine intead of manually being done by the tuner ?
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Originally Posted by Beach
Whats all this cnc buisiness please ?

Im old school all the people i know who port heads do it by hand and eye ?

Is this all done on a cnc machine intead of manually being done by the tuner ?
Hello Beach,

CNC is computer controlled machining (Computer Numerical Control). One always starts with a hand ported cylinder head (or a single inlet and exhaust port) that has been developed (and hopefully proven). This cylinder head is now used as the Gold Standard. The hand ported ports are digitized and now the CNC machine can replicate the hand ported port on other cylinder heads. We now can have nearly exact copies of a hand ported head.

However, if the digitized port is a poorly developed port all of the copies will also be poor.

CNC certainly doesn't mean a better head - only as good as the hand ported original.

Cheers

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you should know what cnc means you work for rollsroyce lol
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you should know what cnc means you work for rollsroyce lol
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
Is your current head completely scrap?

I personally would use standard valves
Standard used springs and retainers
Bronze guides at your discretion, I imaging for that money they are being fully fitted and the valve seat re cut?

The 'race taping' isn't that worth while but does look very pretty

So you can knock 300 off the total and not loose much. However the cnc head work does seem very reasonably priced!

Rob,
The 'race taping' isn't that worth while but does look very pretty
any one got a pic of race taping
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Originally Posted by fsteward
The 'race taping' isn't that worth while but does look very pretty
any one got a pic of race taping
Will be on the cnc heads website, on the cvh page.

Seriously, are you just cobbling together all the bits the PF fraternity tell you to buy and knocking it together yourself?
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
Will be on the cnc heads website, on the cvh page.

Seriously, are you just cobbling together all the bits the PF fraternity tell you to buy and knocking it together yourself?
yep
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Just buy a zetec
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
Just buy a zetec
na i want to build a big power cvh i already have a efi engine and forge pistons and a load of other new parts so im sticking with my guns pal
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
Do you need a clutch ?
yea need to get a clutch
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how much is it a 220mm
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Yes it's a 220mm, 200 posted.
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Originally Posted by Canada1
Hello Beach,

CNC is computer controlled machining (Computer Numerical Control). One always starts with a hand ported cylinder head (or a single inlet and exhaust port) that has been developed (and hopefully proven). This cylinder head is now used as the Gold Standard. The hand ported ports are digitized and now the CNC machine can replicate the hand ported port on other cylinder heads. We now can have nearly exact copies of a hand ported head.

However, if the digitized port is a poorly developed port all of the copies will also be poor.

CNC certainly doesn't mean a better head - only as good as the hand ported original.

Cheers
Mate im not being funny but i fix these machine for a living i think i understand what cnc actually stands for

My point i tried to make i wasnt sure if he had a cnc program that he just loads into his machine and this is how he ports the head.

In basics all this means is that he can copy anyones heads on his 3d mapping machine, this giving him the required co ordinates for the machine to replicate the required head.

I know where my money will be spent

If im honest though this is just a way for anyone to replicate the years of development that the real engineers put into cylinder heads and if im honest i think it could be quite unfair to those who spent a life time working out what actaully makes power. Not those that flow best on a flow bench the ones that make real life horsepower!
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Originally Posted by GMMS
you should know what cnc means you work for rollsroyce lol
Your the thick bastard if you actaully think i could do the complex job i do if i didnt understand the basic principles of the machinery im working on!!!
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Originally Posted by Roscopeco
Pmsl

Back down please this is so unfair hahahah

Its been blown out of context im really not that stupid
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
Just buy a zetec
Wash you mouth out with soap boyo!!!!!!!
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