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Old 30-01-2013, 06:02 PM
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Hi all I want to put a 400bhp zetec turbo in my escort rs turbo and wanted to no what gearbox to go for
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Old 30-01-2013, 06:13 PM
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mtx ftw imo


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best bet would be a mk1 focus rs gearbox conversion.
Old 30-01-2013, 06:37 PM
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Either of the above
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+1 for both the above options
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ST170 6 speed...
I even got one for sale...!!
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I have a rebuilt mtx box with quaife atb, less than a 1000 miles since built with focus Rs ap clutch and flywheel for sale
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I like the sound of a six speed but will a st170 box take 400bhp
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Also will the mtx bolt onto a cvh and ifso what do i beed to change or will it drop in useing all the same parts like linkage and drive shafts as I'm going to keep my cvh to go in sum thing else
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Originally Posted by frsjon
best bet would be a mk1 focus rs gearbox conversion.
+1 got the quaiffe atb as standard
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Im going for a mk2 RS box in mine collected it monday, rated at 400 ft/lb

The ST170 box is a good conversion, not rated at the same torque figure but they seem to hold up very well and are a lot easier to fit than my option. Not really had much dealing with the MTX box tbh.

With 400 bhp though you will deffo need to sort it
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rs2k box is a mtx
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So will the box that Russ Payne is selling drop straight in with no mods I can keep my drive shafts and gear linkage on my cvh?
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Originally Posted by Beach
Im going for a mk2 RS box in mine collected it monday, rated at 400 ft/lb

The ST170 box is a good conversion, not rated at the same torque figure but they seem to hold up very well and are a lot easier to fit than my option. Not really had much dealing with the MTX box tbh.

With 400 bhp though you will deffo need to sort it
How much for the mk2 box conversion?
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Originally Posted by Turbotodger
So will the box that Russ Payne is selling drop straight in with no mods I can keep my drive shafts and gear linkage on my cvh?
No, you will need to modify the mounts and change the shafts
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
No, you will need to modify the mounts and change the shafts
As above, I also have a specially machined spacer plate to allow an mtx box to be mounted to a cvh
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Thanks guys will probs stick with the box I got for the cvh so I can spend the extra cash on building the zetec but can't still cant make my mind up as to what box to bolt my zetec up to choices choices
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Originally Posted by Turbotodger
I like the sound of a six speed but will a st170 box take 400bhp
U can get 1 for 100 sovs these days mate, check on eBay...
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Originally Posted by Russ Payne
As above, I also have a specially machined spacer plate to allow an mtx box to be mounted to a cvh
How much is the box?
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
How much is the box?
Ł650 for box, clutch, flywheel

Ł50 for spacer plate
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Originally Posted by luke19790_3
How much for the mk2 box conversion?
Ah Luke mate i am so freaked out by the huge mk2 Rs box thats now sat in my unit

Not sure there will be a fair amount in bits alone, custom clutch, flywheel, adaptor plate, driveshafts etc plus hydraulic clutch etc.....

Chassis to be modded in simular way to other conversions with a mount on the side on the inner wing/chassis leg and one at the rear for the torque link thingy. RS runs a support bearing on the longer drive shaft so that the cv joints are at the same angle, not sure how this will be made to work as of yet. Realised today aswell i may have to run a stack dash as im not too sure where the speedo drive will come from ?? Not so sure the conversion will work with a standard cvh block either due to the oil filter location, the starter motor on the mk2 sits directly in line with this. On the black top zetec the oil filter take off is on the opposite side of the block at the back so ill be running a remote filter to save space around the back! Some serios thinking to be done but will be worth it in the long run.

Got the box for 500 quid with driveshafts which is a bargain, only reason i decided to go ahead with the conversion tbh. Not bad saying its a 2010 one with only 10k on it shes just nicely bedded in!!

As soon as engine is built id like to think we can make a start on fitting the new box and possibly be out for around may/june

There will be 3 of us running this conversion from NMS so should be fun

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Sounds like you got your hands full with that good luck mate
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Hi
What would i need to change to get a escort gti gearbox to fit in my brothers s2 rs turbo.
The box has been rebuilt with a s2 diff.
Any help would be great as the standard boxes dont seem to last long lol
Cheers
Mark
Old 02-02-2013, 03:09 PM
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It won't fit as it's rear starter isn't it mate?
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Originally Posted by MARKYMARKONE
Hi
What would i need to change to get a escort gti gearbox to fit in my brothers s2 rs turbo.
The box has been rebuilt with a s2 diff.
Any help would be great as the standard boxes dont seem to last long lol
Cheers
Mark
I have I ib5 for sale which will fit.
Old 03-02-2013, 09:03 AM
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The Focus RS mk2 box, that sounds an interesting conversion.

We work on these boxes on a daily basis. I raced my FRSmk2 in Time Attack last year at 500bhp with 255 Toyo R888 and never had a single issue with the transmission or drive componants. It also has a LSD as standard.

I would love to offer info if req, and watch your progress.

Simon.
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Originally Posted by sas
The Focus RS mk2 box, that sounds an interesting conversion.

We work on these boxes on a daily basis. I raced my FRSmk2 in Time Attack last year at 500bhp with 255 Toyo R888 and never had a single issue with the transmission or drive componants. It also has a LSD as standard.

I would love to offer info if req, and watch your progress.

Simon.
Its mainly Karl and Oli who have done the required digging to see whats needed, im just lucky enough to be part of this new conversion. There will be one built before mine but id like to be driving it for may/june. Having a new black top zvh built for around 350 bhp to start so the gearbox was always going to be an issue. As with all my projects i cant bare to cut corners and do things by half so here i am.

Found a box with 10k on with shafts for 500 quid and it got delivered to Derby so it was a no brainer tbh.

Its a huge conversion in terms of parts required and custom bits being made but they way i see it its fit and forget and rated at 400 ft/lb for a car way more than the magic ton! Need to run a didgi dash too as the focus takes the reading for the speedo from the ecu so there is no manual drive for the speedo!

Will start a build thread when i actaully make a propper start my heater has died and its been so bloody cold this last few weeks, couple that with a really bad chest and ive not felt like making a start in my cold lock up.

Getting a little excited to say the least
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