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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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interested in having an rs turbo engine etc fitted in my mk4 as ive had abit of money come my way.

anyone know prices i would expect to pay for a good rs turbo engine and everythink needed for a conversion, tank, lines, exhaust etc

and any place thats well know for good work.

prices needed

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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anyone?
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Looking at about £250 - £300 for the engine itself, ancillaries etc.. depends what spec of stuff you want really. Probably worth budgeting for brakes and suspension aswell, faster you go, the faster you need to stop, and turn!

Seems like a relatively cheap conversion though.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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would pumabuild do something like that? Or perhaps Top Boss Performance in Derby? Cant think of any closer ones off the top of my head.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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is jamsport local and good? jw
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it aint worth it ya looking around £600 for a donner car and over a grand labour you can buy a proper one for that may be if you look around
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engine etc here

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RS-Turbo-engin...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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agree with the Bromster, with the money you've come into why not a buy a RST, but if you want a donnar car with all the bits pretty cheap, PM me
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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thats the one i was looking at, and ive spoke to him etc and very interested.

just dont fancy fitting it myself....

thats y i posted up...

what prices would i be looking at to get one fitted?

and to "brom" i would get a rs turbo but to get one the condition my shell and car is in i would be expecting to pay around 4k and i aint paying that!!
plus i dont think it would cost that much to put one in mine, and its going to be a proper sleeper as people expect rs turbos to be fast!

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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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on the jamsport website, saying they do an engine conversion on there....

have contacted them, so just waiting for the reply.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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what about

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do you know whats involved in doing a conversion

i take it yours is just the bog std carb model escort

so from that you need

engine complete with turbo inlet
gearbox
metering unit
fuel pump and cradle
fuel tank
fuel lines
brakes front and rear
rad and intercooler
boost and water hoses
bushes may aswell uprate them, as you needto change roll bar
exhaust
complete wiring loom, not just engine the complete lot

so if you want someone to do the work, they will have to completely gut the car removing virtually everything

thisis the killer is the labour, its not a hard conversion and very simple but doing the work takes time and is say around 4 weeks done properly

i done a efi conversion ona lads cabby already had the frst engine, so needed to strip and replace loom to complete efi and re wire to use ofab mangement

fit rad,cooler, turbo exhaust and other general bits and bobs, wiring up boost gauges and other shit he kept adding

as he was put onto to me from a mate i done him a good deal around £400

if i was to ever do one again it will be almost double as i also supplied parts that i didnt charge him for

as i said its asimple conversion but costly due to the amount of work involved

and then you can have teh problems of things not working etc, so more time sorting that out and the bill could be even higher

what you need to do is sit down and work out how much everything is going to cost you in parts excatly what you need

and then get quotes on labour charges to do the work

then see if its cheaper to just go buy a rst
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just got a quote to have engine,tank, fuel lines, exhaust modified, loom etc everythink done for 500 quid, and be done in 3-5 days

so just looking for one now willing to pay quite abit for everthink so let me know what you got!!!

would like a rebuilt one with receipts etc or one with quite abit of bhp..

also interested in a zvh...

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why would you have to have your exhaust modified?

as you will use a s2 one and its a direct fit
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Originally Posted by bonus_boy
just got a quote to have engine,tank, fuel lines, exhaust modified, loom etc everythink done for 500 quid, and be done in 3-5 days

so just looking for one now willing to pay quite abit for everthink so let me know what you got!!!

would like a rebuilt one with receipts etc or one with quite abit of bhp..

also interested in a zvh...

who was the quote from mate. Wanna get my S1 rep on the road and no one has time at mo. I had a rotten S1 though so already have all the bits.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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honestly, i wouldn't bother

your bonus will be worth next to nothing regardless of how mint it might be...at least an RS Turbo still retains a little bit of value, i've seen good ones for around £2500-£3000 myself.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bonus_boy
just got a quote to have engine,tank, fuel lines, exhaust modified, loom etc everythink done for 500 quid, and be done in 3-5 days

so just looking for one now willing to pay quite abit for everthink so let me know what you got!!!

would like a rebuilt one with receipts etc or one with quite abit of bhp..

also interested in a zvh...


Too cheap.

You get what you pay for.

a good 2nd rst mongoose exhaust is £150 quid alone.



Quite simply I would just go and buy an RST- £2.5k to £3k will get you a very straight and very strong car.

Forget the fast sleeper idea- your car wont be "fast" it will be quite nippy.
(having said that compared to a 1.3 bonus it will be of course)

You're talking 160-180bhp with a chip and uprated actuator max.


Dont go for the impress your mates bollocks with a "sleeper" and all that shit.

Buy a nice good condition shiny RST that looks like an RST- it will hold more value and be a joy to drive and look at- people will comment "you've got a nice car there mate" rather than say FOOK ALL.

It will have the correct suspension/interior/management/bodykit/wheels/brakes etc on it already and it will all be usable servicable stuff.

Alternativly- ignore 90% of the people who replied on here- buy a £500 shitter RST and transfer ALL the fucked parts across to your car.

Jake
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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I read it that it was £500 to fit all the stuff, not buy it
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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I read it that it was £500 to fit all the stuff, not buy it
yeah thats true

but i still think thats wat too cheap and to be done in a few days the job is being rushed

as you are bound to come across problems, like fuel pump mounts and fuel line clips

tank bolts could be siezed and need grinding off etc

plus strip the car to take the loom out and refit it

something is a miss i think
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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I read it that it was £500 to fit all the stuff, not buy it

Still seems a little cheap to me....

add all the parts onto it- which buying 2nd hand individually wont be a known quantity and you're still talking big money- IE Buy a whole good RST money.

In fact- I can put the lad in touch with my mate who might have the following for sale.
Freshly built never run 1.6cvh- Mild porting, Cam, Arp rod bolts, mahle pistons ap4paddle clutch for a little more than 1k. Be good for 240bhp easy with the correct turbo and set up/chip.
He'll prob throw in an inlet/exhaust manifold too and maybe a std interwarmer- I know he has a mongoose too for £150 ish- I bet he'd do a deal if you bought some bits off him...

Then you need a rad- say £50-£90 for a good one.
Tank - who knows can you get em.
Fuel pumps are £50-100 new.
Turbo?? £200??
Brake lines???
Brake calipers £30 ish- then new good quality discs and pads- £150?
LSD gearbox- 2nd hand unknown £150+
Metering head and lines- £50 upwards and who knows what nick it'll be in.
Then you need hoses for water/boost- might as well buy new ones as at least they'll be fresh and hole free.
Ecus- £100+ chipped
Wiring loom????
Then you've got silly things like anti freeze, fresh oil for the box and engine.

Before you know it your good idea turns into an assortment of parts that dont work well together and a project thats a disaster and worth £500.

Sod it- just buy an RST.

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How old are you (for insurance reasons) and how much money do you have to spend?

I'd get a real RST...

OR a better car altogether to be honest!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
OR a better car altogether to be honest!
How bloody dare you- BAN HIM!
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Originally Posted by Shings
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just got a quote to have engine,tank, fuel lines, exhaust modified, loom etc everythink done for 500 quid, and be done in 3-5 days

so just looking for one now willing to pay quite abit for everthink so let me know what you got!!!

would like a rebuilt one with receipts etc or one with quite abit of bhp..

also interested in a zvh...


Too cheap.

You get what you pay for.

a good 2nd rst mongoose exhaust is £150 quid alone.



Quite simply I would just go and buy an RST- £2.5k to £3k will get you a very straight and very strong car.

Forget the fast sleeper idea- your car wont be "fast" it will be quite nippy.
(having said that compared to a 1.3 bonus it will be of course)

You're talking 160-180bhp with a chip and uprated actuator max.


Dont go for the impress your mates bollocks with a "sleeper" and all that shit.

Buy a nice good condition shiny RST that looks like an RST- it will hold more value and be a joy to drive and look at- people will comment "you've got a nice car there mate" rather than say FOOK ALL.

It will have the correct suspension/interior/management/bodykit/wheels/brakes etc on it already and it will all be usable servicable stuff.

Alternativly- ignore 90% of the people who replied on here- buy a £500 shitter RST and transfer ALL the fucked parts across to your car.

Jake
Agree 100%. £500 is way too cheap and you'll spend 3 times that putting the car right. Go and buy a proper car in the first place mate.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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well i wanted to spend 1500, so thats 500 on fitting and grand on getting good modified engine and all the bits.

surely thats possible, and plus if i did get the engine fitted etc and come to sell it, i think id get 1500 for it easy. mint shell, full mint 90 recaros, rollcage, diamond cut series 2s and rs turbo lump.

have got me thinking now tho, i might just get a rs turbo, escort or fiesta i aint sure.
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Originally Posted by bonus_boy
well i wanted to spend 1500, so thats 500 on fitting and grand on getting good modified engine and all the bits.

surely thats possible, and plus if i did get the engine fitted etc and come to sell it, i think id get 1500 for it easy. mint shell, full mint 90 recaros, rollcage, diamond cut series 2s and rs turbo lump.

have got me thinking now tho, i might just get a rs turbo, escort or fiesta i aint sure.
Mate - just buy a proper RST if that's what you want. Far less aggro, far easier to insure. Honest
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Does it have to be turbo? Why not get a 2 litre zetec and carbs? Get some headwork done to the zetec and spend the money on the engine instead of the conversion if you get me...that way the engine is still worth money and you havent spend 500 quid getting the tanks, loom etc... all modded.

You will need an ignition ecu for the zetec to run it on carbs but a simple mappable ignition ecu wouldnt set you back too far.

And for the record I think your car looks ... making it bark like a dog with some carbs would just make it stay different to the pack...

I'm living in Brum (near sutton coldfield) at the minute if you wanna chat about possibilities ur more than welcome to nip over

Dan
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it would be cool as a turbo or as mentioned a zetec on carb as there is something good about sleepers

all my cars have been sleepers

but 1k to get the bits you are going to struggle, as you looking around 500 plus for a good reliable strong engine

i think i paid 650 for my cabby engine and it was perfect and is still going 2 years on

have a good think

even if you start buying the bits in stages etc, then the lasts ones you want to get would be engine,box and metering unti pref ut the same car so you know they work

heres a pic of my old bonus turbo was running 206bhp enjoyed every minute, but it did have its problems aswell

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mate, one of my friends at work is 19, and he's got himself a nice 4x4 saff cossie, H plate in white for 4k , fair enough the insurance is £1600 , but it is 10 times the car an RS Turbo will ever be, its stage 1 and thats a good strong reliable 270 BHP all day every day. Why bother messing around with an RST transplant?? I know you have a nice car but everything has its limits, the golden rule is if you want a fast car, start with a fast car in the first place
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