Do any of you guys know much about m.o.t's regarding re-tests?
The thing is, it failed on:

Front sidelights without ignition.
No effort from handbrake.
Front seats insecure.
Side lights showing white light.
Offside rear chassis not fully seam welded.

Now these were all put down on the sheet, so off i went and fixed everything.

Went back today and a different guy did the re-test but he failed it on some things on the floor,sills,chassis!!

So what i want to know is, is this allowed? Seeing as i was told what needed to be done and i did it, then he comes along with a completely new list!!!!

Someone help please.

 

I take it thats cos of your clears then

I thought they only re-checked the things that it failed on first time.... could be wrong though

 

It was the side repeaters because they didnt have orange bulbs in them!!
Sorry i was just copying what the sheet said.

See i thought the same about a re test!

 

Isnt there a 14 day limit, After which they have to do a full test?

If you waited more than 14 days then theres not much you can do.

Every area has harsh and lenient testers or mot stations. Ask around the trade - see what they say. Take it somewhere else!

I once got a bike mot in 12 minutes.. some places take almost an hour

 

I took it back 6 days later!!

 

Read the back of the failure sheet.

Full test was called for.

14 days is marketing, not VOSA policy.

 

and yes afaik they can fail it on other items when it goes back for the retest

 

Taken from :http://www.bobmckay.co.uk/Frame2.html

There are two important things to understand about the statutory test process. The vehicle must have a full examination on its return if it leaves the test station. The maximum fee is set by regulations but the amount charged is up to the garage, they may choose not to charge at all. Nevertheless a full examination must still be carried out in those circumstances requiring it.

If the vehicle stays at the testing station for repair and retest then no fee can be charged for the retest.

If the vehicle is brought back to the same test station and re-tested before the end of the next working day (the next day the test station is open for testing. Note that this differs from the "next working day" definition given for other situations in "abbreviations and definitions" of the 5th edition of the Testing Guide) for one or more of the following items only:


ABS warning Bootlid Brake pedal antislip Emissions Direction indicators
Hazard warning Doors Dropsides Lamps Fuel filler cap
Headlamp aim Horn Tailgate Loading door Mirrors
Rear reflectors Tailboard Registration plates Seat belts (not anchorages)
Seats VIN Steering wheel Sharp edges/projections
Windscreen Wipers Washers Wheels and tyres

 

Sounds like you just got shit luck mate. When my RSi failed, I took it back 7 days later and he only checked the things it failed on the first time. But after reading that text above it looks like they do have the right to do a full re-test

Hope it's not too expensive.

 

Take it somewhere else. Get whatever they say it needs doing fixed. Should be OK fore another year then. Having said all that how could you not notice some of the things it failed on the 1st time. Handbrake not working!

 

somethings not right there,its obvious that the bloke who did the first test did not check it properly,i would go to the ministry of mots and report them,because rotting chassis and sills does not appear after 6 days,they are normally allowed a month.bloke at the garage i used to work at once passed a car and he came back 2 weeks later pointing out what he missed on rotten chassis,he offered to do the work for free so he wouldnt lose his mot licence

 

Cheers people, unlucky maybe or stitched up. But i know that i am writing a letter to someone (ministry of mots/mot inspector etc..) with my concerns of these two different written reports!

 

i tho that the person who moted the car must retest the car as this is wot happens at my mot station ?

 

don,t matter who does the retest ,just a nomimated tester from that test station.

When I did my mot testers quality controllers course ,the instructor told us that

they had more complaints about vehicles that hads passed a test wrongly than

failed wrongly,too many bent mot's out there still!

puddy

 

I had someone complain once because I did not stamp thier service book

Another because the local quick fit had replaced the wrong bushes and someone else had passed it, even though the original bushes were hanging out.

The testers worst enimy has to be 'The Pub Expert'

I even failed a VOSA incogneto car once when it had passed 3 times the day before!!!

If your car has been failed, fix the faults and stop moaning, the car does not meet the 'minimum standard' to be on the road.

Ask the original tester for his views on the result of the retest, say you feel disappointed and is there anything they can do about it. If he's not too keen to help then you should ask for a VT17 (is that right Puddy?) and he might be a whole lot more helpfull then!

 

Whats a VT17?

 

Its the form you fill out to complain to VOSA, every garage must have 2, and if you ask the guy for one he knows you are going to complain. He might then get very helpfull and you might get your car fixed FOC.

Don't sugest it, let him offer (if he does at all).

In my opinion (as a tester) its often cheaper to fix the car, then go for the VOSA apeal, earn nothing for the day, get fooked about only to get sent on a course for a day.

Even if you do appeal, you have no MOT and still have to pay to get it fixed.

 

i'll say just this on the matter and then i'll say no more ( as it's my garage that it failed on)

yrself and chris wanted it re-tested/tested by tester 2 cos you hoped he'd be leanent, at the end of the day if he passes it and you sell it ( i'e you had ther new owner collecting it that night!!) and somthing happens too the car in an accident etc HE WILL lose his licence to test and his job - would you risk yr job for him??
i will say i felt he was a tad hard on inspecting to welding but if done properly by the garage that you took it to you wouldn't have had that problem.

tester 1 in my opinion was straight to the line as he was only tested by the ministry sum 3 weeks ago and passed with flying colours and tester 2 had a 5 year refresh test 5 weeks ago, so both of my testers are up to speed with testing

as for the retest, as said above if you take the vehicle away it HAS to have a full retest. the laws on retests changed about 3 months ago, read the back of the failure sheets we gave you.