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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Im just after any tips how to try and get rid of my belly. At the gym i do 5 mins on a bike and every 30 secs i pedal hard so my speed goes from 90 to 100. Then i go on the rower for and do 250 metres in 1.10 then 1.05 then 1.00 then 55 secs so that it gets the heart pumping. Then i do 30 mins on a tread mill and every 1m30 secs i raise the gradent from 2 to 8. Then do some execises where i put my hands under my ass n rock my legs up n down for 200 reps. Then i ly on my back still n lift my shoulders and bend my knees and rock my body so that i touch the top of my knees with my hands. I do about 50/100 of these. Im eating a lot healther too. Will you need to know what im eating.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 12:14 PM
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Diet is the key mate... Clean carbs' and fats and good sources of protein.

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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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As above.

I swear by low intensity, long duration cardio for fat burn.

1hr+ a time, incline walking on the treadmill. around 6/7kph.
Twice a day if you can, once before brekkie and once again after work/in the evening. Alot of commitment but it works a treat.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 04:59 AM
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Lol at the tag. My diet is quiet good. I only have a treat oncea week which is normaly sausage n chips or fish n chips. I have plenty of fruit and only drink alcohol every now and then.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Give up the booze. Will strip you in no time. I haven't touched a drop in a month now and looking lean as.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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diet.. high protein high fat low carb always works well for me, and high intensity sprints in intervals.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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carbs should still make up 50-60% of your diet. If your doing high intensity cardio you'll need carbs anyway. Just the right ones. Ideally you need to be eating 50% Carbs, 25% protein and 25% good fats.
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carbs should still make up 50-60% of your diet. If your doing high intensity cardio you'll need carbs anyway. Just the right ones. Ideally you need to be eating 50% Carbs, 25% protein and 25% good fats.
Idea is to use stored fat as fuel, up protein to compensate 4 muscle loss in a calorie defecit and up fat for cals.
No point taking shit loads of carbs in while trying to cut down, up protein+ fats, use stored carbs as ur energy source.

i did a 6 week keto diet ( 0 carbs) with only 2 refeeds and completed 3 25 min hiit sessions a week with only an energy cns stim (caffine) before each wo.
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Old Sep 19, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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one word for ya mate cardio cardio cardio and more cardio
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I went to the gym yesterday with a mate and i had a go on the cross trainer.I was only on for 10 mins and i burnt off 150 calories acording to the machine.I normally do 30 mins on the tread mill and burn off 200.

I went back on the cross trainer and did 25 mins today and burnt off 250.I think i will do more work on the cross trainer.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I went to the gym yesterday with a mate and i had a go on the cross trainer.I was only on for 10 mins and i burnt off 150 calories acording to the machine.I normally do 30 mins on the tread mill and burn off 200.

I went back on the cross trainer and did 25 mins today and burnt off 250.I think i will do more work on the cross trainer.
forget what the machine says,get yoursel;f a heart rate monitor,when doing cardio for weight loss you need to keep your heart rate in the correct zone
there are 2 types of cardio one for fittness,high heart rate and another for fat loss,not sure on the correct term but do a search on google
best way for fat loss is the read mill on an incline fast walking keeping your heart rate within your required zone
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I was talking to a fitness instructor at the gym last week and he said the best think for fat loss is the tread mill. I think i will keep going on the tread mill.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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As Pete said get a heart rate monitor, I aint too sure on what zone is what but when I am on the road bike I try and keep it in the 70% zone.
Running is your best bet IMO, since I started earlier this year I have noticed the gut has shifted quicker than it was doing before.
Keep an eye on the diet, good foods little and often, cut the treats for a week or 2, see if you notice a change there.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Stop wasting your time with the cardio and do more weights you will burn more fat!
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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I heard and read if you do more weights it will burn the fat off.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I heard and read if you do more weights it will burn the fat off.
You don't wanna' use that as your source of fat burning though. By the time you start burning fat, you'll have done too much for muscle gain. Stick to cardio.

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stick to cardio mate and good diet.dont listen to women
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Right ok people. The wife goes to her gym classes on a monday n wednesday night. Im gonna start going to the gym and go on the tread mill for half an hour. As well as my daily routine.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I went to the gym tonight for a bit. I did a bit on the rower then did 30 mins on the treadmill fast waking at 6.5. It was hard. Im gonna get some proper running trainers and im gonna have a go at running.
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Originally Posted by Hannah
Stop wasting your time with the cardio and do more weights you will burn more fat!
Yeah and do lots of sit ups as I've heard you target the area of fat and it goes.
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Yeah and do lots of sit ups as I've heard you target the area of fat and it goes.
Ive also heard a bit of pixy dust rubbed into the gut melts it away
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Ive also heard a bit of pixy dust rubbed into the gut melts it away
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:09 PM
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Pixy dust i might try some of that. Will have a look on ebay for some lol.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I went to the gym tonight for a bit. I did a bit on the rower then did 30 mins on the treadmill fast waking at 6.5. It was hard. Im gonna get some proper running trainers and im gonna have a go at running.

Whatever you do, don't go down your local JD's an speakto some lad who only cares when he's next fag break is, go to a proper running shop wher they can asses your foot shape and running style or you could really hurt yourself when you get into it. Also don't try to do too much at once as running can get really adictive. Best advice I can give you as I'm a seasoned runner with the right equipment and i'm sat at home with a shin splint
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Tweaking your diet, meal count and eating clean is always the best way as the majority of it is to do with calorie intake. Never quite understood those who want to get lean or look good for an upcoming holiday and try to do so by hammering the weights and cardio until they drop. You can't really out train a bad diet. Not saying you have a bad diet, Glenny but if its real clean then it makes things much easier. Basically its:

Build muscle = do weights/gym
Raise fitness levels = do cardio vascular work
Lose fat = create calorie deficit via diet


Sure lifting weights or fasted AM cardio can burn off some energy but there's like 250Kals in 2 finger kit kat or 300 in a single crappy McDonalds hamburger and booze is just your worst nightmate. Diet is the best way. Think of the fatties you know personally, you might say they're lazy but I bet the eat too much and of the wrong foods/drinks.

Search for a BMR calculator and put in your height, weight stats to find out roughly what you need to maintain the current weight you are, then go and drop 500 cals a day, you'll lose a good few pounds a week easy without doing any extra exercise and if you do it as well as eating say 6-7 small meals a day, high protein, low carbs with the carbs you eat being clean ones then you'll not feel hungry or dissatisfied. As long as you get the right nutrients and make sure you don't drop too low and go into 'starvation mode', which is counter-productive then you'll be fine.

I currently weigh 13stone 8lbs which at my height of 6ft2 is a healthy BMI according to NHS but its not smack in the middle of it or anything so may be too heavy/much for you but you just keep going on deficit until you reach the desired weight, then recalculate the bodies metabolic rate and stablise it, no deficit. If you hit a stumbling block THEN throw in loads of cardio, so you have somewhere to go. Lets be honest, are you really going to keep up hammering the cardio forever? If not the weight will return. I've got a treadmill in my house and can't say that I use it loads per week and I enjoy a good run.

Breakfast is when I have most of my carbs, porridge oats with some fruit thrown in like blackberries, raspberries, blurberries, strawberries and a sprinkle of sunflower seeds and sometimes some raisens. The supermarkets always have offers on for berries to add in. Have a whey water shake from Myprotein and you're not have much carbs, not bad ones anyway. If your mrs makes any home made meals like chili, lasagne or cottage pie then substitute the potato/chips/rice element for round lettuce, cucumber, salad onions, red pepper or tomatoes on the vine.

If you're training at the gym 3 times a week or so then there are also loads of low carb foods to protein seek, like boiled eggs, tuna, anchovie fillets, maceral, steak, cheese etc which can all be had with your clean salad parts. Only real carbs I have is from fruit and sometimes some thin sesame crackers which I think are only 9g per 4 of them which are good as a snack with cheese on, very filling.

Biggest problem with all that ^ once you've retrained your mindset out of the junk food mentality or sloppiness, is just remembering to eat, timing it all and making sure you're prepared to take things to work or with you when you go out, a journal or simply notepad file will help with this. Bananas can be a good stop gap if needed, as opposed to hitting the service station for pasties or sarnies. If you stick with it, it will work.

If your cupboards/fridge are full with natural sugars like fruit, clean salads, veg and meats then you'll be more likely to stick to your diet/lifestyle change than you would do copious amounts of cardio which will eventually bore you stiff. IMO you should look forward to your training days or going for a run not resent them and anyone who tells you a big mac meal tastes better than half a nicely seasoned rump/sirloin/ribeye steak and fresh salad is crazy, especially when you'll get to eat the other half later on so you enjoy your favourite foods several times a day/week if you wish. That old saying isn't it, "oh I could eat that again", well you can.

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Originally Posted by stevenebm
stick to cardio mate and good diet.dont listen to women
ha ha ha

i used to do hours of cardio and dont get me wrong i used to love it but i saw no change.

Cardio is important for maintaining a healty heart and shouldnt be ignored but if you want to tone up etc dont forget to do weights. Doesnt mean your suddenly going to turn into arnie all of a sudde some people are so sared of doing weights!
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ive started doing more weights ive lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks not bad for a lorry driver oh totally changed my diet too
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thanks for all the info people. Ive been eating healthier foods since lat year when i started at the gym. Ive lost 2 stone since last year. Ive started to run on the treadmill now. It feels like my heart is gonna pop out sometimes lol.
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