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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Not quite as it's made up to be is it?

Having a few problems with critical errors,warnings and the likes in "Event Viewer"
Am trying to sort them but it seems Microsoft updates is making things worse?!
Was going to upgrade to win 8 for the measly sum of £25/£29 or what ever it is, but if they cant get win 7 working after all these years what hope do we have for win 8?
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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I find windows 8 shit and wish when I got a new laptop I got it with 7!
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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Never had a problem with Windows 7 personally?
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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W8 is £24.99 until 31/1/13 and W7 is much preferable and VERY stable and reliable. You must be unlucky.
The only time I'd upgrade (and I will for one PC) to W8 is to get rid of Vista!
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 10:10 PM
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had no problems with win 7 since i had it. always installed first time. did you upgrade or start from fresh install ??
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 12:53 PM
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Lol so you are getting errors, so you blame the Operating System, it's most likely down to something else, what are the errors?

Windows 7 is not bad, well it had to be to replace Vista which was terrible.

Windows 8 is too new at the moment, therefore I won't be installing it yet (despite having a free license to do so!) I am going to wait until bugs have been patched.

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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 01:18 PM
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What error messages are you getting?

Chances are its windows telling you that other software is playing up.
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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I also doubt that errors are coming from Windows 7 - Much more likely to be something you've installed. If recent then consider using System Restore to go back in time.

Have upgraded 2 of my PCs to Win 8 on the special offer - Had problems applying updates to one but have sorted it I am now most impressed.

Post up your error messages and especially any error codes and let's see if the collective minds can get you back on track. Don't upgrade to 8 whilst 7 is in a mess as you will only copy your problems forward.
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Windows 8 is free, until January so if you want up try it now you can
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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Windows 8 is free, until January
How does that work - link please!
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by oldzetec
How does that work - link please!
http://itproportal.com/2012/11/22/ho...rade-for-free/

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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MrC
Well I didn't know that! Trying it now.
(just happen to have everything I need to hand AND a target system with Vista on that I want to "modernise")
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Cool..

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No, doesn't work.
There's no way of entering the new key into the Enterprise edition and what's more that link doesn't tell you how to do it.
The method used for Pro isn't available in Enterprise. And that is well-publicised information as I found very quickly when looking.

Well, to be precise there's no "legal" and/or "normal" way to do this at all. As I found by reading up on the chain of links which soon ran into a "we won't tell you how to do this because it's pirated" brick wall.

It can only be done (and I didn't) by initially using pirated volume licensing keys to activate a copy of Windows Pro (not Enterprise) illegally.
So you have to be seriously into breaking MS software, it's not a "loophole" available to the casual user as the article implies.

Anyway, it was a useful exercise as my totally legal install of W8 Enterprise 90-day trial has proved the target hardware is fine for a 64-bit install of W8 Pro - which I will buy for £24.99 during the offer period.

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right, after taking a harder look at the issues i was getting in event viewer, it does infact seem like other software, partly, for the errors.

After most of friday night and today looking on the interweb for answers ive managed to get it down to 1 from about 11,ive deleted,updated and absolutely done my utmost to eliminate these issues.
The 1 i have left is:

<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
- <System>
<Provider Name="Service Control Manager" Guid="{555908d1-a6d7-4695-8e1e-26931d2012f4}" EventSourceName="Service Control Manager" />
<EventID Qualifiers="49152">7006</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8080000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-12-09T22:13:35.680875300Z" />
<EventRecordID>11995</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="848" ThreadID="944" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>user-PC</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
- <EventData>
<Data Name="param1">ScRegSetValueExW</Data>
<Data Name="param2">FailureActions</Data>
<Data Name="param3">%%5</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

A service control manager issue.

Ideas?
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 06:01 AM
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Have you updated motherboard drivers from the manufacturers website?
Were they bluesceen errors ?
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 06:53 AM
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had windows 7 for years and never had a problem now have windows 8 and once you get use to it ,its great
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Originally Posted by Eagle
Have you updated motherboard drivers from the manufacturers website?
Were they bluesceen errors ?
Yep did that over the weekend,all MB drivers and a whole shit load more.

As said its just the one to get rid of now, BUT i can live with it if the pc dont crash.
No its not a blue screen but is classed as similar, the pc just simply turns off and reboots, or used to,i may have sorted it now im just in the process of giving it a work out
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Old Dec 10, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by oldzetec
No, doesn't work.
There's no way of entering the new key into the Enterprise edition and what's more that link doesn't tell you how to do it.
The method used for Pro isn't available in Enterprise. And that is well-publicised information as I found very quickly when looking.

Well, to be precise there's no "legal" and/or "normal" way to do this at all. As I found by reading up on the chain of links which soon ran into a "we won't tell you how to do this because it's pirated" brick wall.

It can only be done (and I didn't) by initially using pirated volume licensing keys to activate a copy of Windows Pro (not Enterprise) illegally.
So you have to be seriously into breaking MS software, it's not a "loophole" available to the casual user as the article implies.

Anyway, it was a useful exercise as my totally legal install of W8 Enterprise 90-day trial has proved the target hardware is fine for a 64-bit install of W8 Pro - which I will buy for £24.99 during the offer period.
Did you request a trial key for enterprise?? Activate the 180 day trial then put in mce key after activation.

Should work
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by st3v3
Yep did that over the weekend,all MB drivers and a whole shit load more.

As said its just the one to get rid of now, BUT i can live with it if the pc dont crash.
No its not a blue screen but is classed as similar, the pc just simply turns off and reboots, or used to,i may have sorted it now im just in the process of giving it a work out
It's not a build issue!

In that error it clearly states "Service Control Manager" as the "Event Source", therefore I suspect there is a service that can not start etc.

Restart the PC and see if an occurance of this is logged at the time of the boot up, if so then that confirms this, you just have to find which service it is.

Martin
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MrC
Did you request a trial key for enterprise?? Activate the 180 day trial then put in mce key after activation.

Should work
Says who? Exactly HOW?
(It doesn't. As explained above, not applicable to EE.)
Please supply a link that changes "should" to "this is how to do it"
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by st3v3
No its not a blue screen but is classed as similar, the pc just simply turns off and reboots
There's typically an option that says reboot after system failure.
You need to turn that off to see what's going on.
(in Computer, Properties, Advanced...., Startup and Recovery...)
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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ive been on windows 7 for years never had a problem even tho its a downloaded free version in 64 bit it even accepts damn near daily microsoft updates lol!
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