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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Used samsung galaxys are still going for £170 so its hardly "fuck all " and surely the % of people get there phones for free through upgrades or new contracts?

your skoda was 3rd the S2 is first with techradar and not worth fuckall either after ownership, so thats your total theory blown straight out of the water

2 year old galaxys arent £170

I never compared my Skoda to the phones? You bought up my Skoda so I merely pointed out its a good car with better residuals than you think because you are ill informed

I only said the residual prices on the pricier iphones compensate for the initial high(er) price, much like a premium brand car such as a BMW

No matter people get free handsets with upgrades/contracts, nobody is going to ignore nearly £300 resale on their old iphone when the contract ends in the current financial climate.....unless Porkie has one

Johnny B was saying how much more expensive they are to own than an 'android' but with the resale price taken into account I dont think thats true at all
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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I waited eagerly for the sensation to come out, was really looking forward to it from the spec.. It went back to o2 in the 14 day return period in favour of my old iphone 3gs.

I actually wanted to get away from the apple device as some things annoy me, trouble is I realised the good far out weighs the bad. It's such a slick device and so nicely built/finished, all the other wanna'be phones are poor feeling. And whole UI on the sensation was over egg'd, battery was much worse than the iphone, screen was almost unusable outside and it felt really fragile and cheap. I also had more crashes in 12 days than 3 years of iphones. I found it very frustrating trying to navigate or find things on the htc, no simple order to things.

I just don't get why some people find they need to make it their mission to slate the iphone, it's an amazing device really, nothing comes close out there. The design, software engineering and hardware quality are second to none. I just don't see how someone could hold a sensation and play with it, then play with an iphone4 and say the iphone was crap. Just turning the htc from landscape to portrait was almost enough to pi55 me off enough to kick it up in the air

I found the Iphone4 simple, but could not find why the fucking ringer would not work(looked though menu ofter menu thought the phone was broken), I had to fucking google it, it find it was a switch on the fucking side.

I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.

MY s2 has ever crashed, it has slowed and fucked about, just bad app.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
2 year old galaxys arent £170

I never compared my Skoda to the phones? You bought up my Skoda so I merely pointed out its a good car with better residuals than you think because you are ill informed

I only said the residual prices on the pricier iphones compensate for the initial high(er) price, much like a premium brand car such as a BMW

No matter people get free handsets with upgrades/contracts, nobody is going to ignore nearly £300 resale on their old iphone when the contract ends in the current financial climate.....unless Porkie has one

Johnny B was saying how much more expensive they are to own than an 'android' but with the resale price taken into account I dont think thats true at all
I didn't say you did compare cars and phones i was on about your logic behind it all, seems you applied it to buy a phone but not a car and im far from ill informed my mate has one he couldn't wait to get me out after he had it mapped

i dont mind if people get the phone because of the resale value but please dont make out because its the better phone when it isn't, i mean thinking you own the BMW/porsche phone of the market and the rest are vauxhall just comedy i can tell you haven't actually watched/read any credible reviews
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Hahaha you couldn't work out the "silent" switch?
Also, anyone who uses the "iTunes" argument is just ridiculous?
I've used iTunes for a lot longer than I've owned an iPhone and it's amazingly simple to use, navigate and do whatever. If I want to buy an album, or rip up from a disc, it's not hard. Drag and drop can't get much simpler??

Some arguments "against" are so poorly structured its a complete joke.

I resign from answering anymore pathetic posts on the subject.

By the way, ps3 is better than xbox
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:01 PM
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in the near future iTunes will be not needed with the iphone
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Shame it's not a 5 but it wont stop me joining the apple revolution

I got an ipad earlier in the yr and it's gone down a storm. I HATED the thought of apple before.

I can hopefully get a 4s ordered and waiting for me when I get home on the 27th

So what memory do I need?! My ipad is 32 gig and I cant see I need much more. How big are photo files on the current phone?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
I didn't say you did compare cars and phones i was on about your logic behind it all, seems you applied it to buy a phone but not a car and im far from ill informed my mate has one he couldn't wait to get me out after he had it mapped

i dont mind if people get the phone because of the resale value but please dont make out because its the better phone when it isn't, i mean thinking you own the BMW/porsche phone of the market and the rest are vauxhall just comedy i can tell you haven't actually watched/read any credible reviews
As stated I've spent three months evaluating them for a team of 100 people with a few other guys from around my business. Do keep up, also the iPhone is a premium item, the perceived quality from a non phone geek is massive compared to the others
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
As stated I've spent three months evaluating them for a team of 100 people with a few other guys from around my business. Do keep up, also the iPhone is a premium item, the perceived quality from a non phone geek is massive compared to the others
so when you was "evaluating" ( please use that term loosely ) what negatives did you get for the S2 over the iphone ?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
I found the Iphone4 simple, but could not find why the fucking ringer would not work(looked though menu ofter menu thought the phone was broken), I had to fucking google it, it find it was a switch on the fucking side.

I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.
So you slate it because of one button? One simple to use button, that makes it really easy to mute the phone in an instant in a meeting or whatever? Surely even you can see that that's a bit of a daft objection.

You also don't need iTunes, or even a computer now to make them work. Totally agree that it was a bit of a bind to have to go through iTunes for stuff. But not any more.


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so when you was "evaluating" ( please use that term loosely ) what negatives did you get for the S2 over the iphone ?
Christ man, let it go. I know you love your S2, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to. For me, it's too big, it feels cheap, the OS isn't as good, and the apps are flaky and there's not as much app choice. Those are more than enough reasons for me not to even consider one.

Looks like JohnnyB can take his phone out of his ass without too much of a problem, but yours is well and truly wedged up there!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 06:11 AM
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So the 4s has a dual core processor up to twice as fast as the 4 and better graphics chip, sounds great but does anyone know any other upgrades it has?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 06:14 AM
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So the 4s has a dual core processor up to twice as fast as the 4 and better graphics chip, sounds great but does anyone know any other upgrades it has?
The Internet is FULL of news stories about it, and you're asking on here???

Go to www.apple.com/uk and watch the videos.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Had an iPhone... great as a gimmick and to be part of the apple gang but as a phone it was useless. It loved dropping calls !

Got a HTC now and its faultless... can even make calls
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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A mate posted this on my wall:

thought it was rather good,

" I have a Galaxy S II and I'm not locked in the Jobsonian "walled garden" "
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:40 AM
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sweeet! 4GS for me next week then!

better battery and 64gb storage and better at calls!

3 things I want over my Iphone4.

Nice
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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ive just upgraded to an iphone 4 and yesterday temptation got the better of me and went out n bought an ipad2 32gb.id be more than happy with ios5 as the phone and ipad do everything i need.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Yesterday?!?!?!?

you couldnt wait a few days?

seems strange move.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by B19 JUB
ive just upgraded to an iphone 4 and yesterday temptation got the better of me and went out n bought an ipad2 32gb.id be more than happy with ios5 as the phone and ipad do everything i need.
You do realise how much cheaper the iPhone 4 is going to be once the 4S is released?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
You do realise how much cheaper the iPhone 4 is going to be once the 4S is released?
phone cost me nothing as was an upgrade.had it a couple of weeks.not too fussed with the latest gadget as they always have inital bugs
porkie is there another ipad coming out then?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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sorry. I read it wrong.

Thought you got iphone 4 YESTERDAY....

thats not what you said at all.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Had a quick look on Egay.


The Iphone 4 is going for about £350 second hand, about the Same price for a second hand S2, but I am sure the Iphone 4 prices will drop.




just been having a realy good look at the spec's of the Iphone4s.

Its the improvment it needed, looks like it just fixed all the issues the Iphone 4 had.

Better network speeds, better camera, better speed, the battery is the same though, so I assume IOS5 as better power managment?

sounds so much better, but in spec its still lagging.

if I was a Apple fan boy I would wait till Iphone5.

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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I thought they said the battery life was worse, by the tune of 100 hours on standby.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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oh dear looks Apple have been stealing again.

this time the they are not having it anymore.

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news...ne_war_goes_on
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Just to be ballanced

http://www.gsmarena.com/heres_everyt...-news-3228.php
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
if I was a Apple fan boy I would wait till Iphone5.
???

no.... if you were an apple fan boy (like I am!)

you would buy the 4GS on launch day.....

and then buy the 5 on launch day as well!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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very true mate, even if its the wrong thing to do!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
???

no.... if you were an apple fan boy (like I am!)

you would buy the 4GS on launch day.....

and then buy the 5 on launch day as well!

You're my hero!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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I can get a brand new iphone4 in white for £300!! Sooo tempted to flog my desire hd for one!! Never used a iphone until just over 2 weeks ago, using a iphone2 and love how easy it is to use!!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
You're my hero!
I even QUEUED for 30mins before the shop opened at Liverpool street when the 4 came out....

oh the shame
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Originally Posted by squizxr
I can get a brand new iphone4 in white for £300!! Sooo tempted to flog my desire hd for one!! Never used a iphone until just over 2 weeks ago, using a iphone2 and love how easy it is to use!!
How is an iphone easier to use than a desire hd? I've owned both by the way

As for the iphone 4s? It looks great, especially the siri. I would have liked to see a bigger screen though. I prefer the size of the desire hd, sensation and galaxy 2

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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I've got an iphone, only apple product i own and i love it.

That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.

That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.

As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things I had hoped the new iphone would be a beast, something different but alas...
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If I had a Iphone 4 and my contract is about to be renewed I would leave it, upgrade IOS5 and wait till the Iphone 5 comes out, as most contracts these days are 18months you would be tied into the iphone 4s for about a year when the Iphone 5 comes out.

just a logical view, not a Porkie Apple Nerd view.

the shame Porkie the shame
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Originally Posted by Coldo
I've got an iphone, only apple product i own and i love it.

That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.

That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.

As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things I had hoped the new iphone would be a beast, something different but alas...

Thats the first thing we have agrred on.
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Originally Posted by Coldo
I've got an iphone, only apple product i own and i love it.

That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.

That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.

As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things I had hoped the new iphone would be a beast, something different but alas...
You could say that about most phone manufacturers though mate
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Originally Posted by Porkie
???

no.... if you were an apple fan boy (like I am!)

you would buy the 4GS on launch day.....

and then buy the 5 on launch day as well!


unfortunately we are all not minted like you
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
the shame Porkie the shame

I KNOW!

I was going to type.... I am a total apple fan boy whore and would buy an Iturd if they bought it out...

but I wont ever queue up....

then I realised I've already done it

I wont queue for hours or even days like some Icunts will though!
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
I found the Iphone4 simple, but could not find why the fucking ringer would not work(looked though menu ofter menu thought the phone was broken), I had to fucking google it, it find it was a switch on the fucking side.

I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.

MY s2 has ever crashed, it has slowed and fucked about, just bad app.
What way of adjusting the volume could be easier and more obvious than a volume button on the side of the phone? Iirc the 4 even has a + and - on the button
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Johnny I did the same with the Ringer thinking it was broken...

felt a right tool!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Johnny I did the same with the Ringer thinking it was broken...

felt a right tool!


See!!!!

I am not the only one!!!
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jameswrx
What way of adjusting the volume could be easier and more obvious than a volume button on the side of the phone? Iirc the 4 even has a + and - on the button

All smart phones have + and - for volume, but only the ishit has a cheap dip switch to turn all sounds Off.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
The Internet is FULL of news stories about it, and you're asking on here???

Go to www.apple.com/uk and watch the videos.
Only because I've not had time to google. Will check later when I'm home
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