IPhone 5 (IPhone 4s)
Used samsung galaxys are still going for £170 so its hardly "fuck all " and surely the % of people get there phones for free through upgrades or new contracts?
your skoda was 3rd
the S2 is first with techradar and not worth fuckall either after ownership, so thats your total theory blown straight out of the water 
your skoda was 3rd
the S2 is first with techradar and not worth fuckall either after ownership, so thats your total theory blown straight out of the water 
2 year old galaxys arent £170
I never compared my Skoda to the phones? You bought up my Skoda so I merely pointed out its a good car with better residuals than you think because you are ill informed
I only said the residual prices on the pricier iphones compensate for the initial high(er) price, much like a premium brand car such as a BMW
No matter people get free handsets with upgrades/contracts, nobody is going to ignore nearly £300 resale on their old iphone when the contract ends in the current financial climate.....unless Porkie has one

Johnny B was saying how much more expensive they are to own than an 'android' but with the resale price taken into account I dont think thats true at all
I waited eagerly for the sensation to come out, was really looking forward to it from the spec.. It went back to o2 in the 14 day return period in favour of my old iphone 3gs.
I actually wanted to get away from the apple device as some things annoy me, trouble is I realised the good far out weighs the bad. It's such a slick device and so nicely built/finished, all the other wanna'be phones are poor feeling. And whole UI on the sensation was over egg'd, battery was much worse than the iphone, screen was almost unusable outside and it felt really fragile and cheap. I also had more crashes in 12 days than 3 years of iphones. I found it very frustrating trying to navigate or find things on the htc, no simple order to things.
I just don't get why some people find they need to make it their mission to slate the iphone, it's an amazing device really, nothing comes close out there. The design, software engineering and hardware quality are second to none. I just don't see how someone could hold a sensation and play with it, then play with an iphone4 and say the iphone was crap. Just turning the htc from landscape to portrait was almost enough to pi55 me off enough to kick it up in the air
I actually wanted to get away from the apple device as some things annoy me, trouble is I realised the good far out weighs the bad. It's such a slick device and so nicely built/finished, all the other wanna'be phones are poor feeling. And whole UI on the sensation was over egg'd, battery was much worse than the iphone, screen was almost unusable outside and it felt really fragile and cheap. I also had more crashes in 12 days than 3 years of iphones. I found it very frustrating trying to navigate or find things on the htc, no simple order to things.
I just don't get why some people find they need to make it their mission to slate the iphone, it's an amazing device really, nothing comes close out there. The design, software engineering and hardware quality are second to none. I just don't see how someone could hold a sensation and play with it, then play with an iphone4 and say the iphone was crap. Just turning the htc from landscape to portrait was almost enough to pi55 me off enough to kick it up in the air

I found the Iphone4 simple, but could not find why the fucking ringer would not work(looked though menu ofter menu thought the phone was broken), I had to fucking google it, it find it was a switch on the fucking side.
I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.
MY s2 has ever crashed, it has slowed and fucked about, just bad app.
2 year old galaxys arent £170
I never compared my Skoda to the phones? You bought up my Skoda so I merely pointed out its a good car with better residuals than you think because you are ill informed
I only said the residual prices on the pricier iphones compensate for the initial high(er) price, much like a premium brand car such as a BMW
No matter people get free handsets with upgrades/contracts, nobody is going to ignore nearly £300 resale on their old iphone when the contract ends in the current financial climate.....unless Porkie has one
Johnny B was saying how much more expensive they are to own than an 'android' but with the resale price taken into account I dont think thats true at all
I never compared my Skoda to the phones? You bought up my Skoda so I merely pointed out its a good car with better residuals than you think because you are ill informed
I only said the residual prices on the pricier iphones compensate for the initial high(er) price, much like a premium brand car such as a BMW
No matter people get free handsets with upgrades/contracts, nobody is going to ignore nearly £300 resale on their old iphone when the contract ends in the current financial climate.....unless Porkie has one

Johnny B was saying how much more expensive they are to own than an 'android' but with the resale price taken into account I dont think thats true at all
and im far from ill informed my mate has one he couldn't wait to get me out after he had it mapped i dont mind if people get the phone because of the resale value but please dont make out because its the better phone when it isn't, i mean thinking you own the BMW/porsche phone of the market and the rest are vauxhall just comedy i can tell you haven't actually watched/read any credible reviews
Hahaha you couldn't work out the "silent" switch?
Also, anyone who uses the "iTunes" argument is just ridiculous?
I've used iTunes for a lot longer than I've owned an iPhone and it's amazingly simple to use, navigate and do whatever. If I want to buy an album, or rip up from a disc, it's not hard. Drag and drop can't get much simpler??
Some arguments "against" are so poorly structured its a complete joke.
I resign from answering anymore pathetic posts on the subject.
By the way, ps3 is better than xbox
Also, anyone who uses the "iTunes" argument is just ridiculous?
I've used iTunes for a lot longer than I've owned an iPhone and it's amazingly simple to use, navigate and do whatever. If I want to buy an album, or rip up from a disc, it's not hard. Drag and drop can't get much simpler??
Some arguments "against" are so poorly structured its a complete joke.
I resign from answering anymore pathetic posts on the subject.
By the way, ps3 is better than xbox
Shame it's not a 5 but it wont stop me joining the apple revolution 
I got an ipad earlier in the yr and it's gone down a storm. I HATED the thought of apple before.
I can hopefully get a 4s ordered and waiting for me when I get home on the 27th
So what memory do I need?! My ipad is 32 gig and I cant see I need much more. How big are photo files on the current phone?
I got an ipad earlier in the yr and it's gone down a storm. I HATED the thought of apple before.
I can hopefully get a 4s ordered and waiting for me when I get home on the 27th
So what memory do I need?! My ipad is 32 gig and I cant see I need much more. How big are photo files on the current phone?
I didn't say you did compare cars and phones i was on about your logic behind it all, seems you applied it to buy a phone but not a car
and im far from ill informed my mate has one he couldn't wait to get me out after he had it mapped
i dont mind if people get the phone because of the resale value but please dont make out because its the better phone when it isn't, i mean thinking you own the BMW/porsche phone of the market and the rest are vauxhall just comedy i can tell you haven't actually watched/read any credible reviews
and im far from ill informed my mate has one he couldn't wait to get me out after he had it mapped i dont mind if people get the phone because of the resale value but please dont make out because its the better phone when it isn't, i mean thinking you own the BMW/porsche phone of the market and the rest are vauxhall just comedy i can tell you haven't actually watched/read any credible reviews
) what negatives did you get for the S2 over the iphone ?
I found the Iphone4 simple, but could not find why the fucking ringer would not work(looked though menu ofter menu thought the phone was broken), I had to fucking google it, it find it was a switch on the fucking side.
I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.
I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.
You also don't need iTunes, or even a computer now to make them work. Totally agree that it was a bit of a bind to have to go through iTunes for stuff. But not any more.
Looks like JohnnyB can take his phone out of his ass without too much of a problem, but yours is well and truly wedged up there!
Go to www.apple.com/uk and watch the videos.
Had an iPhone... great as a gimmick and to be part of the apple gang but as a phone it was useless. It loved dropping calls !
Got a HTC now and its faultless... can even make calls
Got a HTC now and its faultless... can even make calls
ive just upgraded to an iphone 4 and yesterday temptation got the better of me and went out n bought an ipad2 32gb.id be more than happy with ios5 as the phone and ipad do everything i need.
You do realise how much cheaper the iPhone 4 is going to be once the 4S is released?
porkie is there another ipad coming out then?
Had a quick look on Egay.
The Iphone 4 is going for about £350 second hand, about the Same price for a second hand S2, but I am sure the Iphone 4 prices will drop.
just been having a realy good look at the spec's of the Iphone4s.
Its the improvment it needed, looks like it just fixed all the issues the Iphone 4 had.
Better network speeds, better camera, better speed, the battery is the same though, so I assume IOS5 as better power managment?
sounds so much better, but in spec its still lagging.
if I was a Apple fan boy I would wait till Iphone5.
The Iphone 4 is going for about £350 second hand, about the Same price for a second hand S2, but I am sure the Iphone 4 prices will drop.
just been having a realy good look at the spec's of the Iphone4s.
Its the improvment it needed, looks like it just fixed all the issues the Iphone 4 had.
Better network speeds, better camera, better speed, the battery is the same though, so I assume IOS5 as better power managment?
sounds so much better, but in spec its still lagging.
if I was a Apple fan boy I would wait till Iphone5.
Last edited by JohnnyB; Oct 5, 2011 at 09:28 AM.
oh dear looks Apple have been stealing again.
this time the they are not having it anymore.
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news...ne_war_goes_on
this time the they are not having it anymore.
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news...ne_war_goes_on
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I can get a brand new iphone4 in white for £300!! Sooo tempted to flog my desire hd for one!! Never used a iphone until just over 2 weeks ago, using a iphone2 and love how easy it is to use!!
As for the iphone 4s? It looks great, especially the siri. I would have liked to see a bigger screen though. I prefer the size of the desire hd, sensation and galaxy 2
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I've got an iphone, only apple product i own and i love it.
That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.
That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.
As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things
I had hoped the new iphone would be a beast, something different but alas...
That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.
That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.
As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things
If I had a Iphone 4 and my contract is about to be renewed I would leave it, upgrade IOS5 and wait till the Iphone 5 comes out, as most contracts these days are 18months you would be tied into the iphone 4s for about a year when the Iphone 5 comes out.
just a logical view, not a Porkie Apple Nerd view.
the shame Porkie the shame
just a logical view, not a Porkie Apple Nerd view.
the shame Porkie the shame
I've got an iphone, only apple product i own and i love it.
That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.
That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.
As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things
I had hoped the new iphone would be a beast, something different but alas...
That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.
That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.
As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things
Thats the first thing we have agrred on.
I've got an iphone, only apple product i own and i love it.
That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.
That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.
As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things
I had hoped the new iphone would be a beast, something different but alas...
That said, i can't help but feel apple are TOTALLY taking the piss out of the consumer and more importantly the growing number of Apple fanboys/addicts.
That said, no one to blame but the consumer for buying the phone. It'll be the same in 6 months or so time when the 5 comes out, it won't be radically different, it won't be a market changing phone, just another money maker for Apple and another fashion accessory for us.
As much as i love the iphone, i'm getting a bit fed up the way apple are doing things
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I KNOW!
I was going to type.... I am a total apple fan boy whore and would buy an Iturd if they bought it out...
but I wont ever queue up....
then I realised I've already done it

I wont queue for hours or even days like some Icunts will though!
I found the Iphone4 simple, but could not find why the fucking ringer would not work(looked though menu ofter menu thought the phone was broken), I had to fucking google it, it find it was a switch on the fucking side.
I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.
MY s2 has ever crashed, it has slowed and fucked about, just bad app.
I find them non configureable to suit my needs, oh why oh why do it need to connect to ifucking tunes to do anything, fucking hate that.
MY s2 has ever crashed, it has slowed and fucked about, just bad app.
The Internet is FULL of news stories about it, and you're asking on here???
Go to www.apple.com/uk and watch the videos.
Go to www.apple.com/uk and watch the videos.






