liam-rst

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Hi peeps as above, my sister has a vectra Sri 130 1.8 ecotec which is using alot of oil but is not particularly Smokey, been told this is a common problem but what's the common cause, is it the rings or somethin more simple?

Liam

rsturbolee

Poor servicing oil control rings gum up

liam-rst

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So its a new rings job then? Oh well scrap bin it is lol

richard youll

Allways rings!

darrenb16two

Basically it's because there a pile of shit. I work for vauxhall and were told that upto 1 litre of oil every 1000 miles is acceptable!

liam-rst

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That's pretty much what its taking mate

Glenn_

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Might as well get a recon engine.

Oranoco

Heard of a few burning oil. It's a Vectra though so drive it into the ground and scrap the hateful thing.

Carlos-Titx

Vauxhauls are amazingly reliable!

I had one as a work car not long ago. 61 plate with 8k on it and the engine threw its insides across the M62

cossiejay

I haste to swear on here but I would have a modern Vauxhall over a ford anyday

botters

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oil control rings gummed up, a decent oil flush like forte can make a difference for a while at least

botters

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why? modern vaux engines are an engineering disaster they cant even make a timing chain last longer than 30,000 miles wheras all other manufacturers make them a fit and forget item!

mattcroft

We have a load of these in fleet, all using oil! I'd suggest the Ford is the better option than the Vaux!

liam-rst

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To be fair the cars a piece of shit and I hate vauxhalls but my sister is a single mum of 2 working 6 days a week and ain't got much money but if she's gonna chuck another engine in she may as well buy a cheap focus or dingo to smoke about in for a year

3FRD

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I bought a Vectra SRI 03 plate for my girlfriend as an inbetween car. 03 plate, 2.2 Ecotech, 70k miles, FSH, low owners etc. It drank oil, no leaks. I knew it was going to be shite and it was a throw away car but it was even worse than I thought it would be. Don't think vauxhall has produced a decent engine since the XE and LET's?

packman

Put some engine flush in and run it about for a day yes a day !!!! thats if its town driving then drop it out and use a mutigrade oil not synth....... of any type

Glenn_

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The ecotec engines vauxhall engines that were in the corsa c are shite.There always noisey as fook.Rattley pieces of shit.

kateean2

Basically it's because there a pile of shit.

kyle_st200

Rings. I had same car as a stop gap for work and used a litre every 400miles. Tried some piston seal and didn't work so stripped it and scrapped it. All ecotec engines are shit

DazC

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Nothing good has come out of Vauxhall for the last 10/12 years!!

Try a decent engine flush and an oil change. That should help it last for a while longer.

DazC

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You can't be serious surely?!

You can't be making that statement on a technical basis that's for sure.

kyletrek

we've got an old zafira 1.6 ecotec at work its got something like 150k on it and it gets ragged to london and back most days and drinks oil like its going out of fashion, well it did until we stopped filling it back up its done about 10000 with no oil in it and it still hasnt died also dropped all its gearbox oil 2 weeks ago and it still works. boss has said when it dies he'll get us some more tourneo transits but that was about 4 months and 50k miles ago

Ginge !

My missus 1.6 cabrio Astra drinks loads of oil but passed emissions some how ?

saph4be

My vxr hardly don't use any

SteveB

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At least if it uses 1L of oil every 1000 miles all you need to do is change the filter every 10k..... Mind you still less oil usage than an old Cossie lol

mattymk4sri

Howdy all,had to jump in on this chinwag about inferior Vauxhall engines and their oil usage issue,myself being a die hard fan of the rear drive escorts and other fords of that era,back when they were good
All cars have their issues,design flaws etc and majority of these are down to how previous owners have driven/maintained/serviced them etc,iv had bad fords a plenty,iv had bad Vauxhalls a few,i spent majority of my life faithfully throwing money at the blue oval until in recent years the griffin has treated me so much better,and iv only had one bite me (Vectra enough said).my current astra sri 1.8 ecotec is flawless and uses no oil,yes no oil,i check it every sunday,its never let me down,looks and drives sharp and is a great family car.the mondeo tdci 130 it replaced however was the biggest money pit I ever encountered,tyres,wishbones,injectors,turbo pipes,egr valve, dual mass flywheel/clutch,brake linings,headlight failure etc etc zzzzzzzz.
Truth is its how you treat them at the end of the day,and I would say avoid any gm 2.2 engines petrol or diesel,they are simply a steaming pile best avoided,along with any chain driven corsa engines,and keeping in mind I love my fords,just don't make your wonderful site like that of the Volkswagen bunch with the "all other cars are crap because they are not Volkswagen" attitude,if this was the rule to live by then you would be discounting a heck of a lot of tasty machinery from your wish lists,pontiac,dodge,chevy,you know what im saying here,have a nice day

Glenn_

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Most cars have there faults. My mate works in a back street garage and he tells me alsorts of stories about fooked cars. He repairs alot of vw.s and Audis. He has a A6 tdi at the mo with afooked engine.

Aaron Chambers

My mates vauxhall astra 1.4 sxi 2007 petrol has been nothing but shit i has had a new clutch a new track rod end 4 new tyres new front discs and pad to fear coil springs a full exhaust from the cat back a new rocker cover gasket a new oil switch a sump plug and all the work was carried out by me apart from the tracking after the new track rod end well it has been drinking alot of oil and we thought this was due to the oil leaks but now we have fixed the oil leaks it has started burning the oil really bad to the point its drinking a litre of oil every 4 to 5 miles really sad to be honest the car has 139k miles on the clock he has only had it 5 months he is getting a newer vauxhall friday yes another vauxhall he last car was a 2007 corsa and that had nothing but problems to needing a new gear box friday he is getting a 2013 corsa hopefully this is better never heard anything like this befor strange i will stick to my SAABs on my 3rd now 170k and still going strong

cossynut2

If you have got a Cossie that uses 1 litre of oil or more in 1000 miles it has got a major problem!!

Cos500

My daily is a 1.4 sxi astra, had it from 40k miles, has always chewed through oil mainly on longer journeys, top it up every week, doesn't smoke and drives as good as it can for an astra, on shorter journeys the oil filler cap gunk up with creamy sludge pointing to head gasket but that seems to be fine and uses no water.
Timing chain was rattling at 40k when I got it, pretty poor but had it done and it's been fine since, engine lights on now grrrrrrr
It's been reliable but not the best car I've owned as a daily.

gcfcos

In the owners mAnual it states to regularly check the oil and the Sierra Cosworth will use up to 1 litre of oil per thousand miles. And that's from brand new

tintinout

100% it is a combination of the piston rings and also that they are just an absolute bag of shit ! Spent the last 20 years in independant garages speialising in Vauxhall and I dont think they made an engine worth owning since the XE/LET... I would go as far as to say I believe Vauxhall are nearly as crap as renault or peugeot now !

cossynut2

Mine has never used oil ,even after a good thrashing, maybe I have been lucky.
I checked it today as I havent used it for a while and as usual the oil level on the dipstick was at the full mark.

gcfcos

I thought it was mad when I read it lol. I don't do a thousand miles a year in mine these days but over the year I'll have to top it up a little bit especially if I've thrashed it to a show And back lol

L00ney123

The 1.8 16v small block vauxhall engines same as the 1.6 and 1.4 16v engines biggest let down is valve stem seals worse case is rings which is more common on the 1.6 8v engines I put a 1.6 16v in a nova and after a few months of hard driving it was smoking it's tits off and it needed stem seals

stevos

It's probably been scrapped by now anyway as it's a 3 year old post.
1l per 1000 miles my brother in laws 2010 audi a5 was using 1l every 500 miles. Luckily audi forked out for a rebuild as it's a known issue with that engine.
There are worse car out there than vauxhall.

Bailes1992

My other half had a 2004 Astra SRi for 12 months with a Z18XE lump. I was very impressed to be honest with you. At 12 years old it felt better put together than my MK1 Focus did at 8 years old. There was no rust anywhere which can't be said for MK1 Focus' either.

Performance wise I was very impressed, for a 'normal' model with a 1.8 N/A it was seriously impressive and nearly as quick as a stock ST170.

When we bought it I changed all the belts, pulleys, tensioners and gave it a good service with 0w40 fully synthetic oil. It spent a year doing mainly 2 mile journeys back and fore my partner's work and I took it on the odd trip to Bournemouth. I didn't have to top up the oil once!

ray barker

the red top yb is desighned to use 750 ml of oil per 1000 miles if aint using oil you aint driving it propper

ray barker

i thought mine wasnt using oil years ago untill i realised it was getting toped up by the rad dowww

cossynut2

It gets driven properly not poodled around in, when i drove to Blackpool and back from Southampton it did need some oil to top it up but it has always been an engine that does not use much oil.