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Old 06-11-2012 | 09:24 PM
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hello all first off all im new to ford and the forum have just bought my first focus i think its a 1.8 di unsure it has a turbo or not .51 plate. . at the moment my question woud be how to fit a k&n cone filter . can this be fitted by bypassing the maf sensor and also theres another tube running from air box any help would be great thanks .
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fit a panel filter instead mate. much easier.
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cheers for the reply have cone one here dont want another spend on a flat panel .
Old 07-11-2012 | 03:35 AM
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To be honest its a bit concerning that you don't know if its a turbo-diesel or not, a fully fitted (K&N) kit would have a section of pipe to fit the MAF, and places to fit pipes/ breathers etc, without this its difficult to fit the cone

on top of that the K&N under the bonnet is liable to draw hot/ warm air (worse on a diesel) which looses power, because of this open cone filters have become less popular now, heat sheilds/ cool air feeds are often used, or better still fully encapsulated filters (BMC / venom etc,)

if you managed to fit the K&N cone filter it may just make more noise and loose power

or even a panel filter, as LD has suggested, probably less hassle/ cheaper in the long run
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cheers will pass on the cone filter as with turbo im unsure as on the intercooler it says turbo on reg form it doesnt state tdi but di . rem guys im new to diesels . its always good to ask rather than firing on and making an error . if i knew how to upload pics i have some off the engine itself .

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/z...1/DSCF0397.jpg

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/z...cool731/11.jpg

highlighted in green is the tubing and maf im talking about ta

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Old 07-11-2012 | 11:41 PM
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took advice flat panel filter ordered any advice on egr cleaning also bought a can off egr3 and diesel 3 for tank as well . cheers ..
Old 07-11-2012 | 11:46 PM
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if it has an intercooler then it has to have a turbo otherwise the cooler would be a bit pointless now, wouldnt it?
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real nice in this forum made to feel very welcome . thanks to the guys that did give the help required .

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Hello again, looks like the Endura version with the turbo and intercooler, i had 2 (non turbo though) engines like yours in an escort van and a fiesta box van, the fiesta was very revvy and quite quick, the escort was gutless, underpowered and would not rev, (did not have that one for long!)

the turbo is tucked behind the engine - under the inlet manifold, so thats why you can't see it, the intercooler is the black plastic bit at the top/ front with "turbo intercooled" written on it (its a little bit of a giveaway!) - the non turbo puts out about 60Hp, the td about 70-75 and yours (turbo intercooler) about 90Hp

it looks like the part with the MAF/ pipe can be seperated or cut from the airbox, so with a bit of bodging - you could probably fit the K&N and keep your MAF / pipe - i still doubt it will improve the performance much though

Apparently these are hard to tune/ improove but advancing the pump timing can make a big difference

i just pumped my tyres up to 40psi and ran with the minimum weight in my vans - often these things carry a ton of junk you don't need

Start a post asking about the best way to tune these engines (ask the right question - "not how do i fit a K&N" - but "how do i get more power cheaply/ easily") - there are a lot of knowlegable people on here that will probably have spent a lot of time/ effort/ money to find these sorts of things out - so you don't have to - rather than messing with the wrong thing/s, you may be better off following the advice of someone who has learnt (at great cost) what works/ does not work (not me - i just know the K&N does not work!/ i work on different engines )

You can get a blanking plate for the EGR (solid, stainless steel online - about a fiver) the van should run a bit better with it fitted, it does not need an EGR and will pass an MOT with it fitted, and should not cause problems, the (unblanked ) EGR will have probably gunged up your inlet manifold, ideally you should take the inlet manifold off and clean it out (messy job) best to stick the plate in anyway
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thanks black jack thats the answer i was looking for and appreciated very much i have odered a flat panel filter instead of messing about with the airbox also i will go to work on egr clean today see how that goes . thanks again .
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Originally Posted by piczo
hello all first off all im new to ford and the forum have just bought my first focus i think its a 1.8 di unsure it has a turbo or not .51 plate. . at the moment my question woud be how to fit a k&n cone filter . can this be fitted by bypassing the maf sensor and also theres another tube running from air box any help would be great thanks .
There is only 1 derv MK1 Foci, that being the tried and tested 1.8.

Both are FI, the only variation is if you have a TDCI or TDDI, which are the methods of fuel delivery.

If anything, as said, just fit a panel filter, cone filters just cause problems, and I doubt if you will get any performance gain.

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thanks martin its not a case off more out off the car im after i was more interested in askin was a filter better than a standard filter when i first bought the car i serviced it and the filter in her at that time was extremely un cared for. the new one i installed is now quite sooty after 2k . ive been told to get the EGR cleaned to see if thats the problem . so have bought some diesel additive and a can of EGR 3 to have a go . can i just ask spraying this stuff in to the intake is the proper way to do it ? also ordered a blocking plate today thanks again mark .
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Default I have done this cone filter fitting in my falcon....

I can help you regarding this ... recently i have done this changing with my Ford Falcon.. I am list the steps that you need to follow....

STEPS:
1.Open your hood and locate the air filter box and intake tube. Turbo models will feature a heftier intake that attaches to the turbocharger, while naturally aspirated engines have intake that attaches to only the throttle body.
2.Disconnect the electrical wiring, hoses and mass air flow meter that attach to the factory intake tube and set aside for use with the new intake system. Unfasten the hardware that holds the intake tube in place and remove slowly, careful not to spill any debris. If necessary, use a flat-head screwdriver to assist you in removing the intake tube.
3.Unscrew the bolts that hold the stock air filter box into place. Remove this factory intake box completely and dispose of it properly, as you will not need the filter or its housing box for the new install.
4.Check the new intake tube and count the number of holes that are drilled into the side. If there are more holes than hoses that attached to the old setup, plug the unnecessary holes with the grommets that came with your intake kit.
5.Attach the new intake tube to your ford directly as the old one was removed. This part will mimic the old intake tube in design and functionality, while the filter itself will be positioned differently and provide better performance. Secure the intake tube with the silicone coupling that came with your cold air intake kit. There should also be a clamp ring that came with your kit to hold the silicone coupling and intake tube into place.
6.Attach the downward piece of the intake tubing system to the newly installed tube from Step
5. By this point, the intake tube should extend to the front of the engine bay and underneath the front of the car. The cold air will come in through the bottom of the front side of the vehicle, increasing horespower and fuel efficiency in your ford.
7.Spray down the new air filter with the necessary lubricant before installing. Position the cone air filter that was provided in the cold air intake kit onto the downward intake tube. Tighten the clamp fitted around the cone filter to secure into place. Reconnect any remaining hoses and wiring that were removed at this time.



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