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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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i have a 02 reg focus its just a 1.6 but i can get a v6 from a mondeo do anyone know if this engine will fit in my car.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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You'll have to have a measure up, the chassis rails may need 'altering' but yeah, i bet it could go in there.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Yes it will fit with a bit of butchering, it has been done before. It will be no quicker in the real world though than a 2 litre, plus the weight could cause an issue.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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The V6 is lighter than a Zetec i believe.
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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You'll need to change the gearbox
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Will the V6 sit on the Zetec mounts or will it need it's own fabricating?
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wegs09
i have a 02 reg focus its just a 1.6 but i can get a v6 from a mondeo do anyone know if this engine will fit in my car.
i forgot to say its st24 with 220bhp
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wegs09
i forgot to say its st24 with 220bhp
ST24 has ~170bhp
ST200 has ~205bhp
ST220 had ~220bhp
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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just drop a 2.0 in it and tune that up you can get a lot more BHP of a 2.0 these days or if you wont go YB and cut the floor out like i have
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
ST24 has ~170bhp
ST200 has ~205bhp
ST220 had ~220bhp
yes i know that but it had had mods done to it thats why it has 220bhp
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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I have yet to see an ST24 run a true 220bhp. If it was that easy to get the power out of them why did Ford stop at the 202 in the ST200.

I would want to see proof of the power before believing what some people say. Trust me, I have a heavily modified ST200 and know how difficult it is to get real power gains out of these engines. Mine is runnign atrue 243bhp and cost a small fortune to get there!
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Originally Posted by COLEYST200
just drop a 2.0 in it and tune that up you can get a lot more BHP of a 2.0 these days or if you wont go YB and cut the floor out like i have
iv made up my mind im going to put in a 2.0 as been looking on the net can get lots of bhp out of a 2.0 like you say.
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I wouldn't bother transplanting unless you really want to keep the car anyway.
I've looked into this as the low down Torque on the 1.6 is dire (as you probably know).
You would need the full engine bay loom. Although probably not that hard but for the price you'd be better off buying a 2.0.
I'm swaying more towards looking for a low mileage lump and getting SS4 cams fitted in the future which will be around 155bhp with a good remap.
Getting a 2.0 is an option for me, but only because my parents wouldn't be too happy if I get rid of the car they've just given me and forked out trying to get it to drive right. My Mum's had the car since it was brand new and even if the car had 3 wheels, aslong as it drove she'd think it was fine! Low and behold I was given it and the front suspension was truley nackered
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
I wouldn't bother transplanting unless you really want to keep the car anyway.
I've looked into this as the low down Torque on the 1.6 is dire (as you probably know).
You would need the full engine bay loom. Although probably not that hard but for the price you'd be better off buying a 2.0.
I'm swaying more towards looking for a low mileage lump and getting SS4 cams fitted in the future which will be around 155bhp with a good remap.
Getting a 2.0 is an option for me, but only because my parents wouldn't be too happy if I get rid of the car they've just given me and forked out trying to get it to drive right. My Mum's had the car since it was brand new and even if the car had 3 wheels, aslong as it drove she'd think it was fine! Low and behold I was given it and the front suspension was truley nackered
the 1.6 in my car needs a rebuild thats why im thinking of an engine swap i looked in to fitting a escort rs2000 engine in but cant get that much bhp out of them and are a bit old now as well. so im goin to start looking for a good 2.0
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Originally Posted by wegs09
the 1.6 in my car needs a rebuild thats why im thinking of an engine swap i looked in to fitting a escort rs2000 engine in but cant get that much bhp out of them and are a bit old now as well. so im goin to start looking for a good 2.0
You need the engine bay loom, fusebox, ECU, the chips from the keys out of the car the ECU came from and the immob ring around the igntion barrel.
Ontop of that you need engine mounts, gearbox, driveshafts, airbox and intake pipe, exhaust manifold, exhaust and i'm sure theres some more odds and sods I can't think of.
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
You need the engine bay loom, fusebox, ECU, the chips from the keys out of the car the ECU came from and the immob ring around the igntion barrel.
Ontop of that you need engine mounts, gearbox, driveshafts, airbox and intake pipe, exhaust manifold, exhaust and i'm sure theres some more odds and sods I can't think of.
ok thanks for the advice
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
You need the engine bay loom, fusebox, ECU, the chips from the keys out of the car the ECU came from and the immob ring around the igntion barrel.
Ontop of that you need engine mounts, gearbox, driveshafts, airbox and intake pipe, exhaust manifold, exhaust and i'm sure theres some more odds and sods I can't think of.
Agree with everything thats been said here bar the part about reciever around the ignition barrell, I can't see this would need to be changed personally as it merely "Reads the key", it's not specific to the car etc.

Why do you need a fusebox out of interest?

If it's a 1600 then it's a big job to change to the larger engines as they bare no resembleance to what you have fitted already bar the name, the Sigma and Zetec-E range of engines are completely different, the inlet and exhaust are on opposing sides to start with, you will also need different suspension as they are heavier in addition to whats mentioned.

Best advise is to tune the current engine or sell the car and buy the faster car outright, personally I don't see the point in making a car something it isn't when there is an easier option but of course thats just my opinion.

Martin
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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
Agree with everything thats been said here bar the part about reciever around the ignition barrell, I can't see this would need to be changed personally as it merely "Reads the key", it's not specific to the car etc.

Why do you need a fusebox out of interest?

If it's a 1600 then it's a big job to change to the larger engines as they bare no resembleance to what you have fitted already bar the name, the Sigma and Zetec-E range of engines are completely different, the inlet and exhaust are on opposing sides to start with, you will also need different suspension as they are heavier in addition to whats mentioned.

Best advise is to tune the current engine or sell the car and buy the faster car outright, personally I don't see the point in making a car something it isn't when there is an easier option but of course thats just my opinion.

Martin
I was just adviced to change the ring around the barrel, never questioned it
Also fusebox is part of the engine bay loom as far as I'm aware.
I am fancying chucking a 1.7 Puma engine in mine but I havent got a clue how to adapt the wiring.
Although I have thought about getting rid of the VCT and using the 1.6 management and loom and getting it remapped?
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