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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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can anyone tell me how a normal relay works???
say for fuel pump or injection relay just wondering how it works id imagine it simple?
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Baically in a relay there is a coil of wire with iron bar inside. Once you pass a current around the coil of wire a electro magnetic field is created and the iron bar is pulled into the coil. Once the current is cut off the electro magnetic field stops and a spring pushes the iron bar back out.

On the end of the iron bar is a set of switch contact, as the iron bar is pulled in and out of the coil of wire the contacts open and close.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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They all vary quite significantly.

But as said above, a relay in its simplest from is used to switch large currents/voltages where the supply is minimal.

In simple terms its an electronic switch.

Whats the problem you are having?
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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basicly im doing an efi convertion and wanted to know how a relay was to work and the pin outs of on ie fuel pump relay as somone has help me out loads thanks
iv been told your the man to ask when doing the efi convertions right?
is there any add vice to give me as im using the ofac loom set up but icant reconiz the map sensor and what it looks like???can you help or give me some addvise pls?

also dose the map senso have to be changed if its been chiped and a set of injector have been replced?ie 701s with 195 chip
and what is the fuel pressure on there efi turbos?

cheaRS
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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The fuel pump relay on EFI is just a bog standard SPST relay. The injection one is a little different, im not overly sure whats different about it i think possibly it has a switch on delay or internal schotky diode.

You won't be able to upgrade MAP sensor on OFAC, but a standard one is still a ford item but had one corner cut off at a funny angle, other than that its identical to a 3i one.

Pretty sure the fuel pressure is the same for the turbos and N/A engines
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Below are diagrams/wiring of 3 different relays used for fuel pumps. The top 2 are used by Ford. The MFI cars had 5 pin tachometric relays, EFI cars have a standard 4 pin relay.

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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so i also need a relay for the injectors where do that go as i have to already?alittle confused know on what i have to do mabe i bitten off more then i can chew???
but im still confident?
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Its easy mate don't worry about it too much.

Ive got a diagram somewhere just can't find it. You could try PM'ing Rab off here as he is the one who made the diagram, it will make your life a lot easier
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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did you find any diagrams yet as ill prob go and have another go at it this wknd? thanks
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Nah i dont think i saved it

Ill see if i can find it here on PF, its around
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