air/fuel ration moniter all tuners please read ... wideband
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air/fuel ration moniter all tuners please read ... wideband
are these any good,or just ebay crap?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
cheers for the imfo
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
cheers for the imfo
#2
I have never heard of that one before.
Innovate Motorsport kit has got a good name for itself:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Innovate-Wideb...QQcmdZViewItem
Innovate Motorsport kit has got a good name for itself:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Innovate-Wideb...QQcmdZViewItem
#3
I have never heard of that one before.
Innovate Motorsport kit has got a good name for itself:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Innovate-Wideb...QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/index.html
Graham Goode are distributers aswell.
Innovate Motorsport kit has got a good name for itself:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Innovate-Wideb...QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/index.html
Graham Goode are distributers aswell.
#5
I have a friend who have made alot of research before buying DYNOJET widebandcommander.... Zeitronix is no crap.. but different from others...all have there own force
In and against for them all was display/gauge or not... datalogging or nat.. output chanals or not.. and very importent, PRICE!!
I have been reading a hole lot about the DynoJet... it realy nice all though it would be top up to date with a more modern gauge Why din I not buy it.. no money
In and against for them all was display/gauge or not... datalogging or nat.. output chanals or not.. and very importent, PRICE!!
I have been reading a hole lot about the DynoJet... it realy nice all though it would be top up to date with a more modern gauge Why din I not buy it.. no money
#6
Hi guys
Im more of a reader than a poster but thought id show my thoughts on Zeitronix.
In all honesty its one of the best things ive bought for my Escort Cosworth. I did extensive research on what was on the market including what Innovate had to offer.
Luckily my friend has a Saph with an Innovate system which gave me a proper opportunity to check it out. Although a great piece of kit i must admit, it was just another gauge full of 'twinkly LEDs' which is total crap if you ask me... ok not as bad as an AFR meter that just wiggles about and really tells you nothing! Bonus being the digi display in the middle so it does do the job nicely.
Not overly impressed with the lnnovate gauge i bit the bullet and bought a Zeitronix from www.tuninguk.co.uk (same guy i think as on eBay?)
So far i have not found one problem or quarm with the system!
I went the whole hog and purchased all the sensors and the LCD screen, which is slightly larger than a pack of smokes. Looks superb on the dash and is always a 'Whats that?' piece for passengers
Now from the screen i have a great line up of Boost, EGT, Lamdba and AFR! All in one little neat package and not a pile of gauges making my dash look messy and thats before you pop the laptop in!
Doing so allows you to map and graph the AFR against all the other measured parameters and log them all for future review.
If your into tinkering your own fuel maps and have a half decent old laptop then i cannot fault this system at all! I think you can also use a PDA with it aswell if you dont have a laptop to spare...?
eBay crap.... not a chance! Type in AFR and see some of the rubbish that pops up, such as 40quid gauges! About as accurate as the US WMD search of Iraq and use crappy low cost narrowband sensors which actually tell you bugger all other than the engine running lean!
Keep up the good work chaps
Im more of a reader than a poster but thought id show my thoughts on Zeitronix.
In all honesty its one of the best things ive bought for my Escort Cosworth. I did extensive research on what was on the market including what Innovate had to offer.
Luckily my friend has a Saph with an Innovate system which gave me a proper opportunity to check it out. Although a great piece of kit i must admit, it was just another gauge full of 'twinkly LEDs' which is total crap if you ask me... ok not as bad as an AFR meter that just wiggles about and really tells you nothing! Bonus being the digi display in the middle so it does do the job nicely.
Not overly impressed with the lnnovate gauge i bit the bullet and bought a Zeitronix from www.tuninguk.co.uk (same guy i think as on eBay?)
So far i have not found one problem or quarm with the system!
I went the whole hog and purchased all the sensors and the LCD screen, which is slightly larger than a pack of smokes. Looks superb on the dash and is always a 'Whats that?' piece for passengers
Now from the screen i have a great line up of Boost, EGT, Lamdba and AFR! All in one little neat package and not a pile of gauges making my dash look messy and thats before you pop the laptop in!
Doing so allows you to map and graph the AFR against all the other measured parameters and log them all for future review.
If your into tinkering your own fuel maps and have a half decent old laptop then i cannot fault this system at all! I think you can also use a PDA with it aswell if you dont have a laptop to spare...?
eBay crap.... not a chance! Type in AFR and see some of the rubbish that pops up, such as 40quid gauges! About as accurate as the US WMD search of Iraq and use crappy low cost narrowband sensors which actually tell you bugger all other than the engine running lean!
Keep up the good work chaps
#7
Forgot to mention aswell the Zeitronix uses the Bosch LSU4.2 Wideband sensor aswell
This is the one that you mount (as far in as possible) to the exhaust tip or on a sampling tube, as it uses the 'pumping cell' if it has minimal flowing passing over it.
This is the one that you mount (as far in as possible) to the exhaust tip or on a sampling tube, as it uses the 'pumping cell' if it has minimal flowing passing over it.
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Originally Posted by CossieRS
Hi guys
Im more of a reader than a poster but thought id show my thoughts on Zeitronix.
In all honesty its one of the best things ive bought for my Escort Cosworth. I did extensive research on what was on the market including what Innovate had to offer.
Luckily my friend has a Saph with an Innovate system which gave me a proper opportunity to check it out. Although a great piece of kit i must admit, it was just another gauge full of 'twinkly LEDs' which is total crap if you ask me... ok not as bad as an AFR meter that just wiggles about and really tells you nothing! Bonus being the digi display in the middle so it does do the job nicely.
Not overly impressed with the lnnovate gauge i bit the bullet and bought a Zeitronix from www.tuninguk.co.uk (same guy i think as on eBay?)
So far i have not found one problem or quarm with the system!
I went the whole hog and purchased all the sensors and the LCD screen, which is slightly larger than a pack of smokes. Looks superb on the dash and is always a 'Whats that?' piece for passengers
Now from the screen i have a great line up of Boost, EGT, Lamdba and AFR! All in one little neat package and not a pile of gauges making my dash look messy and thats before you pop the laptop in!
Doing so allows you to map and graph the AFR against all the other measured parameters and log them all for future review.
If your into tinkering your own fuel maps and have a half decent old laptop then i cannot fault this system at all! I think you can also use a PDA with it aswell if you dont have a laptop to spare...?
eBay crap.... not a chance! Type in AFR and see some of the rubbish that pops up, such as 40quid gauges! About as accurate as the US WMD search of Iraq and use crappy low cost narrowband sensors which actually tell you bugger all other than the engine running lean!
Keep up the good work chaps
Im more of a reader than a poster but thought id show my thoughts on Zeitronix.
In all honesty its one of the best things ive bought for my Escort Cosworth. I did extensive research on what was on the market including what Innovate had to offer.
Luckily my friend has a Saph with an Innovate system which gave me a proper opportunity to check it out. Although a great piece of kit i must admit, it was just another gauge full of 'twinkly LEDs' which is total crap if you ask me... ok not as bad as an AFR meter that just wiggles about and really tells you nothing! Bonus being the digi display in the middle so it does do the job nicely.
Not overly impressed with the lnnovate gauge i bit the bullet and bought a Zeitronix from www.tuninguk.co.uk (same guy i think as on eBay?)
So far i have not found one problem or quarm with the system!
I went the whole hog and purchased all the sensors and the LCD screen, which is slightly larger than a pack of smokes. Looks superb on the dash and is always a 'Whats that?' piece for passengers
Now from the screen i have a great line up of Boost, EGT, Lamdba and AFR! All in one little neat package and not a pile of gauges making my dash look messy and thats before you pop the laptop in!
Doing so allows you to map and graph the AFR against all the other measured parameters and log them all for future review.
If your into tinkering your own fuel maps and have a half decent old laptop then i cannot fault this system at all! I think you can also use a PDA with it aswell if you dont have a laptop to spare...?
eBay crap.... not a chance! Type in AFR and see some of the rubbish that pops up, such as 40quid gauges! About as accurate as the US WMD search of Iraq and use crappy low cost narrowband sensors which actually tell you bugger all other than the engine running lean!
Keep up the good work chaps
#11
Hi again chaps.
I got my full kit for a shade over 400 pounds, including all the sensors, while it was all on offer
Just had a look on Tuning UK again and everything looks to be a bit cheaper again! http://www.tuninguk.co.uk/zeitronix_equipment?b=1 Good time to get in there!
Rich (i think) who runs it, is also a very helpful chap, but i believe he runs it mostly on his own with a part time assistant so dont be upset if you dont get instant replys on email.
Regards
Simon.
I got my full kit for a shade over 400 pounds, including all the sensors, while it was all on offer
Just had a look on Tuning UK again and everything looks to be a bit cheaper again! http://www.tuninguk.co.uk/zeitronix_equipment?b=1 Good time to get in there!
Rich (i think) who runs it, is also a very helpful chap, but i believe he runs it mostly on his own with a part time assistant so dont be upset if you dont get instant replys on email.
Regards
Simon.
#12
Originally Posted by JanDK
Hi CossieRS
if you want wideband kit and lcd screen.. what is the total??? I see a total just about 300.. correct??
if you want wideband kit and lcd screen.. what is the total??? I see a total just about 300.. correct??
Yes they have the wideband and screen on offer for £275, i think youll need to ask about international shipping though.
You need extra bits and bobs to output boost and EGT though.
Simon
#13
Originally Posted by CossieRS
Originally Posted by JanDK
Hi CossieRS
if you want wideband kit and lcd screen.. what is the total??? I see a total just about 300.. correct??
if you want wideband kit and lcd screen.. what is the total??? I see a total just about 300.. correct??
Yes they have the wideband and screen on offer for £275, i think youll need to ask about international shipping though.
You need extra bits and bobs to output boost and EGT though.
Simon
Sound very nice that Zeitronic-thing....
All these sensorreadings are the same with a IAWmonitor..correct?? except for the wideband...
#14
Originally Posted by JanDK
All these sensorreadings are the same with a IAWmonitor..correct?? except for the wideband...
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by JanDK
All these sensorreadings are the same with a IAWmonitor..correct?? except for the wideband...
Bri.
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Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by JanDK
All these sensorreadings are the same with a IAWmonitor..correct?? except for the wideband...
Bri.
but there is wires there to hook in to ecu but im not sure how to do this yet so ill get some one to do it for me
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Originally Posted by *Bri.4.b.Cos*
Isnt the SECS monitor wired to the ecu, so reads exactly what the ecu is seeing
Bri.
Bri.
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i use a Tech edge, and its accurate when put nexted too 2 pro's, setups.
and was spot on on both.
My brother's got AEM, i think its called, about £170, and looks good, but i've neot put it next to mine yet.
and was spot on on both.
My brother's got AEM, i think its called, about £170, and looks good, but i've neot put it next to mine yet.
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