wowwwwwwwwwww

 

Perhaps this will give someone the idea to make an S2/3dr hybrid?? In the looks department at least!

 

heres a snippet from a book i have, i also believe malcolm wilson still owns one of these aswell as an rs 1700 t,

 

that looks just like a normal 88 spec Series 2. Not like the Mule.

 

Yes mate you are correct about the RS1700T not sure if he has the other?

 

damo v: yea you have all ready said about the bumper
i was having a blonde moment

chris what makes you think thay have scrapped it mate

 

Qaulity thread

 

Apart from the different tunnel, next to the clutch pedal

 

bang on mate, i've got that mag somewhere too, i'll have a look for it tonight.......

 

lots of secrets aint there eh baz........................

 

Some of you might find this interesting:

http://airfoto.fujikuvat.fi/album/sh...078&search=all

 

Oh come on, somebody must find this interesting. It's up for sale again btw.

 

Thats not true mate, sorry.

 

JesseT

what that car that is in the link????

 

G343 FRE is still around

The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for G343 FRE are:

Date of Liability 27 04 2004
Date of First Registration 19 04 1991
Year of Manufacture 1990
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1600CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour WHITE

 

No idea what or whose the car is, but the transmission, driveline and rear suspension are from the mk4 4x4 prototype as you can see.

 

Was just about to say the same - Jag diffs are hardly the best by a long shot - there are large transmission losses to be had when using one.

MikeyXR2i wrote:
that looks just like a normal 88 spec Series 2. Not like the Mule.

Thats the whole point of a mule - they are disgusted most of the time.

 

anymore info on this peeps

i still havent found out anything else about this 4x4 s2 that
was made or who has it

 

Well speak for yourself, but im sure you meant "disguised"?

 

I was testing you there to see if anyone noticed, took you a while Dave

 

Talking of mule test cars anyone seen the Land Rover Freelander test mule car?

roflamo, take one freelander chassis and running gear, modify a old meastro van to fit then add 220 gti wheels redrilled to suit!

 

isnt the reg of the last few pics 388 as opposed to the 386 on 1st 2 pages?

Wonder where they are now

 

the late spec green top used in late sapphs and early escorts was used in a prototype shell which was designed on a series 2 escort i do have a pic and spec sheet somewhere it was white and a e reg i came across it when the dealership i worked for moved location and while boxing stuff i found a load of stuff like this with pics and specs and brochure's .hope this helps im off to the garage now to find the pics

 

Have personally seen that car any many other special prototypes around that time as my father was working very closely with John Wheeler on this project and lots of other 'specials'. I remeber his garage once when round there sitting in his RS200 looking at the other one next to it!!!

You would be amazed at how many different 'mules' are made with car companies. I used to work for Ford at Dunton and have seen many strange vehicles and some pretty amazing ones from turboed KA's,V6 escort cos's the first fiesta ST's with turboed engines, also some nice astons

 

I love all this rare findings.........

 

nthorpey top reply mate good info

 

Can we have more posts like this and less of 14 year old girls seeking attention


Seriously - a good post, it's nice to know the history of the ford prototypes, especially in the RS development.

If anyone is after a serious power 4x4 conversion, then DJM are sorting a friends Focus out with the Evo running gear - may well be worth speaking to them

 

bloody hell big will give us more info mate

 

Basically they're using the entire transmission (box, prop, rear diff, shafts etc.) from an Evo 8 FQ400...

They're then custom modifying it to fit by shortening bits and refabricating under the car appropriately.

He's had a custom exhaust system made and deliberately had it routed under the car away from the usual 'recess' so that can be used for the propshaft

 

could be intresting this any pics of it

 

Would they be the wheels off a RS200 or RS1700 T ??????

 

Just tried to do a Value check on the Reg on my Phone and it came back as ;

Sorry we're unable to match that , It maybe too old/new/RARE Shame hoping it may have came up lol

 

would be intresting to see if a 3 door kit will go on easy

i like the front bumper but thats something i would never
get my hands on.

what was that one in a ford mag was it last year lads think
it was fitted with a worrier kit from factory it was gun metal
grey, there was rare and i think it was the only one in the
country also if im right it was a 1700 or 1900

 

Really good thread this.

My workshop manager done a rally school day over in Wales a few yrs ago, apaerntly the guy who owns the company has and still uses a original 4wd mk4 escort.

I cant remember if it was cossy powered but I think he said it was definately turboed.

Him and my boss have known each other for years and years and knew a few of the Boreham Staff around the RS200 era,

He could probably tell me a fair bit tbh as I have heard a few stories but nothing of much interest.

Will post back up any findings !

 

fantastic mate please do get back and let us know]

where is this rally school there is one 14 mile away from me was
it that one thay have a few mark 2 escorts there.

the place is in carno powys

 

I had a quick chat with my boss today about this to see what he knew. Turns out he was a good friends with the son of one of the main guys at Boreham.

I didn't get his mates first name but surname was granger which was what he was known as, problem is that it was his stepdad who worked for Ford so no idea what his name was

Apparently grangers mum was given a prototype 4x4 escort to run round in, however my boss is convinced that this was at the time of the mk3 escorts not mk4 so I have no idea wether this was Cosworth powered or BDT powered.

The car was lent to her son one night to get to a gig he was performing at and he managed to stick it in a ditch nothing was said by Ford although he was shitting himself.

At the same time grangers stepdad was occasionally using a specced up RS200 to commute to work etc.. On one occasion my boss said that they were at a big party and grangers dad showed up in a RS200 dropping his son off, this was at the time when hardly anyone had ever seen a car like it and he took several people out for a blast round the back lanes (lucky bastards!) my boss who never had a interest in anything with less than 8 cylinders wasn't interested but now regrets turning the ride down !

Anyway he told me that after the group B cars were pulled from rallying Boreham were doing everything to shift the cars on, the huge amount of spare panels and chassis were mainly burnt from what he remembers

Grangers stepdad was apparently then headhunted by Jaguar and ended up working on the XJ220 project for them after leaving the Boreham site.

Back to Escorts

Basically its my workshop manager that done the rally day so I'll have to bug him about who and where it was that he saw this 4x4 escort.

The only other bit of info I got possibly regarding the Escorts was that a guy who runs a scrapyard in Headingham (essex?) was and still maybe does have a lot to do with 4x4 development, he had something to do with the Metro 6R4 and some other Rally projects going back as far to twin enginned minis decades ago, he was also making crankshafts for V8 Lotus race engines.

Its not proven but my boss reckoned this guy could of possibly had a lot to do with the Escort projects that Boreham built, my boss moved away from essex years ago but he lived within spitting distance of Boreham so had friends and relatives that knew people that worked there.

Not really great info there but I suppose its interesting that someones mum was lucky enough to be lent such a rare car.

If I can get anything else out of him I'll let you know

 

Cool thread, aint seen this one in a while!

 

I no one thing i bloody want one, or at least the kit, wonder if anyone ever made one?????????

 

exellent thread best iv read in ages.
Keep the info coming!!

 

The M Sport RS1700T



One of the uni`s that have motorsport eng degree have lectures by someone that was involved with the development of the S2