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Old 18-05-2008, 12:29 PM
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Good Decision Will. You wont regret it mate i assure you.

As i said to you once before, there is a damn good reason that no manufacturer in motoring history has built a successfull FWD 400bhp car. And they have vastly more knowledge and resources than all of us put together. The concept is simply unworkable as an all round good road car.

Sometimes you need to take a step back and look at things like this and ask yourself why your bothering folks.


Old 18-05-2008, 01:26 PM
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Shame you're not finishing it but if you ain't happy spending more then you should stop.
Least we should see a tasty focus RS soon!
Old 18-05-2008, 03:47 PM
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Definately done the right thing Will, huge power and fwd and corners do not go together well.

Good luck with whatever you go for next
Old 18-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Ade,

I'm good friends with Simon and we've spent many hours chatting and swapping hints/tips/advice and i know how much time he's spent developing his car so i can fully appreciate that the handling of his car is good!

If i'm totally honest - there are some other reasons apart from the handling that are leading me away from the Mk4 Escort chassis but the good news is that i've had a lot of interest in the bits for sale so hopefully funds will be raised to see a quick Focus RS on the road in the next few months.

New skool - new rules
I know where you're coming from, and good to see that you know it can be done but understandable that the route isn't for everyone.

Personally old skool is where it's at for me as modern cars do nothing for me.
I'd be far happier with a well developed FWD MK4 Escort or even taken further into RWD or 4x4 form
Old 18-05-2008, 04:06 PM
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I am in a similar position to you, only difference been my car runs. I am waiting for parts from supplyers, the spec over the years has balooned from been sensible to stupid. Last time i drove it it was shite but i just dont seem to be able to make the break from it.

I admire what your doing though, think if mine misses a few shows this year i will be doing the same thing.
Old 18-05-2008, 04:27 PM
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Ah GUTTED

Would of been one incredible Mk4 mate. Not on this scale but when I sold up my project it opened so many other doors, definitely for the best but I really wanted to see what this would do

FRS awesome choice aswell Any RWD options though?
Old 18-05-2008, 04:49 PM
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Real shame, loked to be a storming car, but as with any project its really hard to manage to pull through and keep enough enthusiasm for it even through the low times/expensive times.

Just dont hope your regret it, as thats what woudl eat me in about 6 months time
Old 18-05-2008, 05:35 PM
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Shame Will, she would have been a mint car. Your skill with a box of spanners is testament to that. But, as people have said 400 front wheel horsees is generally a bit of a handful.

Build yourself a 400bhp Lotus Elise! Thats gotta be fairly adept in the twisties!

But anyways, whats next?
Old 18-05-2008, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rab
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But anyways, whats next?
Focus RS, Compomotive MO 6 spokes in Anthracite, Toyo R888s, AP Racing 364mm x 34mm 6 Pots, AIM Dash, AEM ECU and a 'tweak' under the bonnet

Most of the engine is now sold

The one bit i was thinking of keeping and putting in the FRS
Old 18-05-2008, 08:50 PM
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Sounds nice! You should have kept the engine though mate lol If you're keeping a few bits and bobs, you can always sling them on the FRS.

Old 18-05-2008, 09:15 PM
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Mr Will my lil petal, sorry to hear the mission has ended.
BUT wooo yeah! lovin the sound of the new car already.

Have you a st170 sump by chance
Old 18-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
Mr Will my lil petal, sorry to hear the mission has ended.
BUT wooo yeah! lovin the sound of the new car already.

Have you a st170 sump by chance
Yes - its just come back from acid bathing at Prodrive

(my mate Dave works there...)
Old 20-05-2008, 03:49 PM
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Everything (virtually) is now for sale...

Please feel free to PM me if there's anything you want
Old 20-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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sump sump sump how much we talking mate
Old 20-05-2008, 04:15 PM
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fair play mate, get the feeling you would have spent more time and money fixing it than building it anyway

replied to your PM again send me a big list and details
Old 20-05-2008, 11:16 PM
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Pleased to see youv'e seen the light, FWD is a waist of time IMHO

Put it in a kit car or a RWD like an Excort Mk1 or 2

I'm now putting my st170 turbo in a Lotus Exige now

ST225 engine is now going in the Westy
Old 21-05-2008, 12:32 AM
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Hi Will,

Shame to see that your stopping this but I see the points put across are agreeable! I hope you find a new project to handcraft with all your own skills and I am sure it will be a pleasure to see!

Best of luck mate and keep in touch!

Tom
Old 21-05-2008, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AustenW
Pleased to see youv'e seen the light, FWD is a waist of time IMHO

Put it in a kit car or a RWD like an Excort Mk1 or 2

I'm now putting my st170 turbo in a Lotus Exige now

ST225 engine is now going in the Westy
Not hijacking sorry, but....
Old 21-05-2008, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
sump sump sump how much we talking mate
Ring me tonight mate...

Oh - and tell me who you are when you do because my phone got smashed the other day and my new one hasn't any numbers in
Old 21-05-2008, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Ring me tonight mate...

Oh - and tell me who you are when you do because my phone got smashed the other day and my new one hasn't any numbers in
It will come up 0800-Petal-xxx
Old 21-05-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by m4dyeti
It will come up 0800-Petal-xxx
0898-Arse-Bandit
Old 21-05-2008, 05:18 PM
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No no no you dont have my work number mate
Old 23-05-2008, 07:31 PM
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its a pitty mate but the FRS idea sounds better
Old 23-05-2008, 08:13 PM
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When i did the croft weekend last year in my £350 sierra that didn't miss a beat,i had to wonder why people spend so much on making their cars undrivable!
My current sierra is going v8 chevy power, and with the 909 coilovers and adjustable beam etc. will (no pun intended) owe me less than a grand, and still be fast enough to have fun,which is what owning cars is all about.
Theres a lot to be said for owning a track day shitter,and owning a nice road car as well.
Good luck with the frs.
Old 23-05-2008, 08:32 PM
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just curious why you have mentioned a possible 400bhp ina focus rs? there fwd, do you think that may handle ebtter with that power?
Old 24-05-2008, 03:09 AM
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put it this way i personally would ratyer have 400hp/lbs in a focus than an escort, far better weight/suspension setup . . .
Old 29-05-2008, 12:32 PM
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Shame really Will

Best of luck with the FRS though..

It was me on the phone earlier btw Was good talking to you
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