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Old 16-03-2008, 05:50 PM
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wow that engine is amazing never seen anythin like it
Old 16-03-2008, 05:56 PM
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cant wait to see this finished mate gona be sick!!!
Old 16-03-2008, 06:07 PM
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any idea why they monitor individual
cylinder egt's and pre turbo?
are you going to be using all the probes
/ widebands?
£££££
Old 16-03-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by leecavturbo
any idea why they monitor individual
cylinder egt's and pre turbo?
are you going to be using all the probes
/ widebands?
£££££
I'm going to get the shell back and have a look if i have space to run all the probes.

The manifold is a dyno spec item - the race spec stuff didn't run all the probes.

My ECU will support 4 EGTs and 2 Wideband lambdas so will need to run a standalone datalogger to interpret them all...

I can only assume they monitored it all to check for balance across the cylinders...
Old 16-03-2008, 07:02 PM
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sum trick shit keep it up
Old 10-04-2008, 07:49 PM
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updates mate?
Old 11-04-2008, 06:20 PM
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will you got the shell back off chris yet ?
Old 11-04-2008, 06:32 PM
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thats gonna be some sick shit
Old 16-05-2008, 11:01 PM
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Righto.

Game Over.

After a lot of long hard thought i've decided i've had enough. The project has been going on for 3 years now and after 3 years, over £10,000 and a lot of sleepless nights i'm calling it a day. The shell has been the major hold up for the last 2 years and the situation shows no sign of improving. To be honest, the last 6 months i've not had much heart in it, i made a big push to try and get everything prepped for Central Day, but again, without the shell, it was to no avail. My ST170 will also be going up for sale shortly, hopefully the funds raised from selling my daily driver and all the parts for the Escort will be enough to allow me to purchase one new car that i can enjoy through the summer...

Keep an eye on the For Sale section - most of it will be listed there in the next few days.

Thanks for the interest and support in this - but my heart's not in it any more.
Old 16-05-2008, 11:06 PM
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shame to hear this mate, was looking supurb aswell, what car you thinking of buying?
Old 16-05-2008, 11:08 PM
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You sure pal? I understand you're pissed off with it, but you seem so close. If its just a shell you need, buy one and get it running as a car and see how you feel then, even if its not the mintest.
Old 17-05-2008, 12:53 AM
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Man, this is not good news!

Mine has fucked me off more than words can explain! The costs are silly! Many don't have a clue just how much! Surely you are too far in now tho to call it a day??

This project had all the hallmarks of a fuck good car! Stick at it son! Stick at it!
Old 17-05-2008, 12:54 AM
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As stated above, surely just buy a minty clean S2 and stick the motor in that!
Old 17-05-2008, 01:27 AM
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Old 17-05-2008, 02:06 AM
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its a real nightmare mate. i feel exactly the same atm. alot over 25000 deep n no shell to put it all in! but i still have hope! is that defo the last decision?
Old 17-05-2008, 08:46 AM
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gutted
Old 17-05-2008, 08:55 AM
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Really sorry to hear this Will.
Old 17-05-2008, 08:57 AM
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Damn shame Will.

You gonna go with what you was talking about in Germany mate?
Old 17-05-2008, 09:21 AM
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i have been down this road mate


but

i had a couple of weeks of not even thinking about it the car and now my interest is restored, i have seen some progress and had some other ideas that will work and work well

i think its the new ideas that have me back at it again

could you just not put it on a back burner for a bit, then come back with a fresh attitude

would be such a shame as it looked like it was gonna be awesome
Old 17-05-2008, 11:34 AM
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thats a real shame, had the makings of a bloody good car
Old 17-05-2008, 01:24 PM
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gutted for you m8
Old 17-05-2008, 01:59 PM
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shame was goin well why not look for another shell and use that
Old 17-05-2008, 03:02 PM
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You know how much I loved this project will; I don't have to tell you that.

Benni.
Old 17-05-2008, 03:14 PM
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It's hard to keep on spending on something that seems to have no light at the end of the tunnel.
Onwards and upwards though eh mate, what you planning on buying?
Old 17-05-2008, 03:18 PM
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sorry to hear this mate.if its just the shell that needs finishing ,give jacko a bell at blue oval.sure he would finish it for you
Old 17-05-2008, 03:32 PM
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Sorry to hear this mate but now its evo time im sure with your knowlage after seeing the other evo your working on & where you work you caould have a decent spect evo no probs..
Old 17-05-2008, 04:16 PM
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just finish it mate am in the same boat as u with my s2 zetec turbo av bin doin mine for just under four years on and off.
!!!!!!!!!!!!FINISH IT LAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 17-05-2008, 04:34 PM
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shame
Old 17-05-2008, 04:40 PM
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That's a shame...... but if the shell is the problem why not just get another?
Non RS Escorts/Orions/Fiestas etc can be had cheaply too.

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I'll be totally honest - even if i got given a concourse shell tomorrow - i still don't know if i'd want to build it.

I hate to say it, but i don't have the confidence in them anymore. The chassis just isn't really up to it. Even with a cage and rose jointed suspension etc. etc. - i still doubt how well it'd handle round a track.

My trip to the nurburgring last week signed and sealed these thoughts...

My plans now are to keep some of the bits - Turbo, wastegate, boost controller, ECU etc. and sell the RS Turbo specific bits, sell my ST170 daily driver and hopefully raise enough £££ to get a Focus RS.

I'll run it at around 300bhp over the summer and hopefully enjoy driving again - then over winter maybe fit the leftovers and go for 400+bhp...
Old 17-05-2008, 05:13 PM
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no way!
Old 17-05-2008, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
I'll be totally honest - even if i got given a concourse shell tomorrow - i still don't know if i'd want to build it.

I hate to say it, but i don't have the confidence in them anymore. The chassis just isn't really up to it. Even with a cage and rose jointed suspension etc. etc. - i still doubt how well it'd handle round a track.

My trip to the nurburgring last week signed and sealed these thoughts...

My plans now are to keep some of the bits - Turbo, wastegate, boost controller, ECU etc. and sell the RS Turbo specific bits, sell my ST170 daily driver and hopefully raise enough £££ to get a Focus RS.

I'll run it at around 300bhp over the summer and hopefully enjoy driving again - then over winter maybe fit the leftovers and go for 400+bhp...

Fair comment fella, a real shame but cant totally c ur point, best of luck with the focus rs
Old 17-05-2008, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
I hate to say it, but i don't have the confidence in them anymore. The chassis just isn't really up to it. Even with a cage and rose jointed suspension etc. etc. - i still doubt how well it'd handle round a track.
I've recently had the fact that they do handle confirmed to me
A passenger blast in the SiTech demo car blew my mind!
Astounding grip at silly speeds with just a cage, set of Konis and some carefully chosen chassis mods....

Projects are a pain in the arse and can be a nightmare to see through, but the off the shelf options just don't do it for me.
Old 17-05-2008, 08:28 PM
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straight line grip is very different from handling well.

400bhp FWD RST round a track is not a good combination.

I think your making the right choice will, the internet is a bad thing as scews peoples perspective on what they want and what they actually need.

Best of luck.
Old 17-05-2008, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan
straight line grip is very different from handling well.

400bhp FWD RST round a track is not a good combination.

I was refering to high speed cornering actually....
Old 18-05-2008, 10:39 AM
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Ade,

I'm good friends with Simon and we've spent many hours chatting and swapping hints/tips/advice and i know how much time he's spent developing his car so i can fully appreciate that the handling of his car is good!

If i'm totally honest - there are some other reasons apart from the handling that are leading me away from the Mk4 Escort chassis but the good news is that i've had a lot of interest in the bits for sale so hopefully funds will be raised to see a quick Focus RS on the road in the next few months.

New skool - new rules
Old 18-05-2008, 10:46 AM
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All the best with the Future project Will
Old 18-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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that's a shame mate why don't you get a later rs2000 shell and a 4x4 runing gear that should keep the car and the power in the road
and keep the spirit ;P
Old 18-05-2008, 11:19 AM
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Sensible move.

Throwing that much cash at a Mk4 Escort is crazy.

Focus RS is a great car, especially round track - you'll love it!
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Originally Posted by Ryan
straight line grip is very different from handling well.

400bhp FWD RST round a track is not a good combination.

This is what I was trying to say on RATBOY's thread the other day....


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