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Old 11-01-2010, 04:31 PM
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maybe we can start a charity donation thread to a new paint job on the gd martin ,


ill gladly dig out the nurses outfit and me bucket for central day ??


not a gud situation ,


hope you can find a painter to sort it , shame to break it ,


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sorry to hear this Martin, If you decide to get it repainted by another source, I can highly recomend Mark, who works/worked with Karl Norris
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gutted martin i would have thought jacko would have had itback n and done it as priority as it has been in the spotlight from the off and has done his buisiness no good at all in my eyes
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Originally Posted by Mr Brannen
Get real , its a pain for Martin but theyre both out of pocket as explained above, the best solution? who for Jacko.... hows that then, if a bad paint job had to be refunded EVERY time no painters would ever get paid, unfortunate but it happens
I know what you're saying but if I built you an engine and it failed because one of the components failed that I chose to supply, would you still feel the same?

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if you have paid to have the job done properly ie no cash deals deals, mates rates etc then it it should be sorted out asap at no cost.
if you are not satisfied with the solutions on offer then I would be off to see a solicitor & not considering breaking it.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:49 PM
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it was a cash deal and was done as cheap as i could do it but it makes no difference he has payed what i asked and it needs to be right
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shame

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Jacko has this happend before on other paint jobs? hope my shell is ok thats not a dig by the way Martin whats the likely outcome for the 500? it must be hard but surely you cant brake it!!!

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Old 11-01-2010, 05:16 PM
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never had this happen before ever
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i feel this is a no win situation for jacko and martin,
its sods law this would happen on such a high profile car


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Originally Posted by Mr Brannen
Get real , its a pain for Martin but theyre both out of pocket as explained above, the best solution? who for Jacko.... hows that then, if a bad paint job had to be refunded EVERY time no painters would ever get paid, unfortunate but it happens
Lmao. So when you get youre engine built and it blows up 2 miles down the road is that youre problem?

My painter would repaint streight away, If he couldnt then he would ask me to wait, If i couldnt wait he would refund me the money im out of pocket.

If you pay for a service and the service is not upto the required standard then you should pay again should you?
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:27 PM
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Build it, go round europe in it or whatever your doing, then come back to it in the summer and have it redone when the time is right.

Your going to end up with stonechips left right and center anyway if you really do plan to tour round europe in it.

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Old 11-01-2010, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Astley
Build it, go round europe in it or whatever your doing, then come back to it in the summer and have it redone when the time is right.

Your going to end up with stonechips left right and center anyway if you really do plan to tour round europe in it.

Tim

not a bad idea
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:30 PM
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not good to here martin,do it you self its the only way you will be 110% happy with the job(not a dig at jacko)
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Originally Posted by Rick Astley
Build it, go round europe in it or whatever your doing, then come back to it in the summer and have it redone when the time is right.

Your going to end up with stonechips left right and center anyway if you really do plan to tour round europe in it.

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Cant see that happening, imagine the man hours involved! building-striping-rebuilding.
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Sorry to hear of this mate, gutted for you.....
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only outside needs redoing
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CANNA GET A REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PAINT !!!!!!





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Old 11-01-2010, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by c20tbo
Cant see that happening, imagine the man hours involved! building-striping-rebuilding.
I can't imagine matey, I'm no expert in either paint or mechanics so it was only a suggestion to throw in the pot.

Sounded good to me anyways
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Originally Posted by Rick Astley
Build it, go round europe in it or whatever your doing, then come back to it in the summer and have it redone when the time is right.

Your going to end up with stonechips left right and center anyway if you really do plan to tour round europe in it.

Tim
Tbh I have considered doing exactly that but I would prefer to get the paint sorted first, I'm sure the doors are a fucker to get off with the dash in place and that's not fitted at the mo.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:39 PM
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there nat too hard mate clocks and glove box out and there off
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin-Reyland
Tbh I have considered doing exactly that but I would prefer to get the paint sorted first, I'm sure the doors are a fucker to get off with the dash in place and that's not fitted at the mo.
Will you not be absolutely gutted though if you get an amazing paint job then go round europe and come back with stone chips all over?

At least if you go with this paint job, you can think 'feck it' when you hear stones bouncing off your bumper, bonnet and wings.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:44 PM
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Jacko are you so rammed busy that you can not squeeze it in for a re-shoot, l would have thought it would be in everybodys best interest?

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Old 11-01-2010, 05:48 PM
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iv had a worker leve so now down to 2 and this is a back to bare again job
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Gutted for both party's.
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Astley
Will you not be absolutely gutted though if you get an amazing paint job then go round europe and come back with stone chips all over?

At least if you go with this paint job, you can think 'feck it' when you hear stones bouncing off your bumper, bonnet and wings.
No I would not be bothered, simple fix if the bonnet or wings got a stone chip. I did intend to use this car lots so stone chips would happen!


I would be embarrassed explaining to foreign dudes that the textured finished isn't the latest craze in the UK!!

This is what we are talking about, and no its not rain!!!:

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SHELL DIP

would this help if the car needs to go do to metal . and there in birmingham

http://www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk/index.html

SODA BLASTING..

or this place that can do just the out side of the shell and just the out side . and all so in birmingham

http://www.suttonsodablasting.co.uk/home.html
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Originally Posted by COLEYST200
SHELL DIP

would this help if the car needs to go do to metal . and there in birmingham

http://www.surfaceprocessing.co.uk/index.html

SODA BLASTING..

or this place that can do just the out side of the shell and just the out side . and all so in birmingham

http://www.suttonsodablasting.co.uk/home.html
Fuck dipping it!!!! It has Ł300 worth of sound deadening on the inside!
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Sorry to hear this Martin.
As you know this is exactly what happened to my paint job and mine was done by the company that did all the demo Spyker cars, had massive Toyota and Triumph contracts so it can happen to anyone.
Its not a good position to be in as i have been quoted Ł2500 to get mine sorted as the company has gone bust and what makes it worse is i cannot really afford to have it done again.
Maybe we could get a cheaper deal off someone for getting both cars done?

Good luck with it mate, think you should stick with it as after all it was one of your wedding cars and has i would assume sentimental value
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oh dear! not good

I would not be happy either, it so disheartening when you want it to be so nice, trouble is now you have lost heart in it and you will never have the same feelings for the car!
so all in all I would say break it or get rid as is...

you will never have the same pride in it now
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that looks terrible i have never seen anything thatbad before as iv said iv never had this happen before
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Originally Posted by jacko
only outside needs redoing

if he wants it 100% then thats a no no..
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Originally Posted by cozzymatt
oh dear! not good

I would not be happy either, it so disheartening when you want it to be so nice, trouble is now you have lost heart in it and you will never have the same feelings for the car!
so all in all I would say break it or get rid as is...

you will never have the same pride in it now
I still have the same feelings for the car and still want it but its the big expensive uphill mountain I now have to climb to put it right that makes me want to bail out.
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Originally Posted by cozzymatt
if he wants it 100% then thats a no no..

inside and engine bay should be fine
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Originally Posted by jacko
iv had a worker leve so now down to 2 and this is a back to bare again job


thought glenny boys mate mark was coming to work for ya dave ?
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in my 10 years of painting i have only had this once and that was with a certain brand of paint that for some reason was a different mix ratio to all others i have used.. ie, i think it contained too much solvent and got trapped, hence solvent pop.. If Jacko painted the car more than once in the time he had it this is going to happen anyway as it can take up to 30 days for solvent to escape from a 30 micron thick layer of paint! and thats if it is a fast solvent that was used! if its a slow thinner, then even longer..

It deffo would not have to go back to bare metal! only down to the first layer of base that was applied...
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it wasnt base it was strait black and its the only way to keep it flat it has had quite a few repair jobs done on it and it was realy rippley and to get it flat would mean to start again



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Originally Posted by cozzymatt
in my 10 years of painting i have only had this once and that was with a certain brand of paint that for some reason was a different mix ratio to all others i have used.. ie, i think it contained too much solvent and got trapped, hence solvent pop.. If Jacko painted the car more than once in the time he had it this is going to happen anyway as it can take up to 30 days for solvent to escape from a 30 micron thick layer of paint! and thats if it is a fast solvent that was used! if its a slow thinner, then even longer..

It deffo would not have to go back to bare metal! only down to the first layer of base that was applied...
Jacko recons the problem lies with the first paint he applied, he tried a new make which he hadn't used previously which dried milky (or something like that) and wouldn't mop up. It was then painted twice after that, I reckon it needs to go down to bare metal to stop it ending up like a ripply pile of junk afterwards due to the amount of paint on the car.
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how many layers of paint are equaly to thirty microns ??

just out of intrest .
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maybe he could come give you a hand to re shoot martoons car if thats the road you two agree on ,

how long would it take to bare metal just the exterior and re paint ?

4 -6 weeks ?
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