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Old 29-05-2009, 04:23 PM
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well, pretty much ready now i think?
new front discs fitted
new 24mm read anti roll bar fitted
new Bright LED shift light
more reinforcement on the bonnet, so hopefully it will stay in shape now at high speeds
Old 29-05-2009, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
180+ atw wheels will be my aim, any more and i'll be happy
we have just done one that see 223bhp @fly chap so its there to get
Old 30-05-2009, 08:54 AM
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yeah, someone on the 205 forum just got 287 at the fly,

but it's all ŁŁŁ, i dont think i will even get my target as i never fitted cams,
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well i thought i would write a little report on pembrey
the car drove there and back with no issues, and did about 140-160 miles on track
the car run really well, it was my first time there so took it a bit easy at the begining so i could learn the lines, the tires were not 100% as the previous track day at bedford destroyed them
but still handled really well, there was a issue breaking from 110+ where the rear was going really little and wanting to step out out so a for a few sessions i was reducing breaking to the rear, until i finally got it balanced
the breaks were fantastic as ever, though ui have put my brake servo back on as the pivot point needs adjusting on my bias box, though if i'm honest i prefer the servo as it's easier..lol
i had forgotten to put a breather tank on, so half way through the day i put a plastic bottle on, did a session and popped the bonnet to find oil everywhere
then realised it must have been pressuring up and blowing out, as i had also forgotten to put a jubilee clip on a breather pipe
removed the bottle completely, problem solved. putting holes in the bottle would have sorted but decied to just remove it.
the bonnet is now pefect, slight wobble but nothing to worry about, so really happy with my last minute Fibre glassing
lucky for my i took a spay passenger side wheel with a worn r888 on , i used this for a the last 2 hours of the day, as the N/S/F was dead
so a new set of r888's is needed
the new rear anti roll bar seemed to be doing its job and helped the car handle much better
water temp all day never went on 80 while on track, which i though was brilliant
oil temp peaked at about 117 when i was really on it, so all fine there too
think thats it really, no drama's
and finally here is a little vid that was taken from the banking, thats flat in 4th breaking for a 80'ish MPH corner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-170yep9tg
p.s. yeah i know i spelt it wrong...lol
Old 02-06-2009, 05:51 PM
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Sweet sounds good dude! car sounds loverly!
Old 02-06-2009, 05:59 PM
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sounds kool as matey
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some more Vids from a friends Video camera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyZxMtU52L4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwUoZFXrH_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4vVBum2zH0
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just had it weighed again
835kg's
with an estimated 190bhp
thats 227bhp per ton
up from 197 per ton
target is 800kgs and 200bhp which is 250bhp per ton
Old 14-06-2009, 07:25 PM
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well, did a little bit on the car today, was going to do Bro's car but couldnt get the nuts off the drive shafts
so spent almost an hours getting all the flies off the front of the car from Pembrey :O
also fitted a new grille, i'm not a fan of this type, but it's growing on me
some BEFORE and AFTER fly cleaning..lol









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Well, long day today,
me and paul set off around 7am to drive to Sandy's in cornwall for it's mappin session
only to find on route the new wheels that i had fitted last week, made the car shake at 80+
lucky enough there was a tyre place in cornwall right where we were going and they sorted the for me
the had some food and a cuppa, the sandy turned up and as the Rolling road was in use we took a drive to Colin's
had a good chat with him, and worked planned already..lol
first job he will be doing for me is make my front suspension bodie's shorted so i can run the car lower (without bottoming out)
afte the great chat's we popped back to the RR and sandy started to do his magic
after a little bit i started to see smoke coming from behind the engine, no signs of oil or fluids?
then after a few more (load) runs sandy hands paul my big gromit, from where the loom entered the body
the extreme heat from being under load melted it :O AND has started to melt the seam sealler from my bulkhead mod
all from the lack of air flow i think, as i have never had an issue before
that was all that had a fault, which i was really pleased with
so a after sandy finished he came back with my ATW figure of 166 and a est of 190-195 ATF
consifering i never fitted any cams i was very happy with that
roll on Combe 4th of July
thanks again sandy, really appreciate you answering all my questions..lol and a great job you did on the car
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cool mate, good result all round then! how much faster does it feel now tho? arse dyno!
Old 19-06-2009, 10:07 AM
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i was never expecting it to blow my mind, NA never does that

but it does feel smoother and pull slightly harder

paul was in the car and it felt quicker, i seemed to notice it more when paul was out (no offence paul..lol )

so maybe i'll take my passenger seat out now
Old 19-06-2009, 10:14 AM
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so whats the total budget to date on this steve?

just interested on the total spend vs power

obviously you've done alot of stuff to make it into a proper sorted track car, but just wondered
Old 19-06-2009, 10:18 AM
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i guess around 8k?
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ahh not too bad, would it be much quicker than a clio 182 trophy with 888's?

cant remember what your's weighs in at

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depends on the driver dude

i should be quicker most times wont be a great deal though
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yeah i meant if driver wasnt in the equation.

just Ł for Ł
Old 19-06-2009, 10:26 AM
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mine will be quicker then,

my brakes are VERY good, and handling is very good, and now i have the edge on power and i can always put the power down.

the 182's will spin a wheel (like lee 21 turbo did pre diff)

and the handling will be ok, but not are firm as mine

oh and remember my car is light
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cool!
205s do seem to get a bit warm where the manifold passes so close to the shell !
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Originally Posted by Spiky
Well, long day today,
me and paul set off around 7am to drive to Sandy's in cornwall for it's mappin session
only to find on route the new wheels that i had fitted last week, made the car shake at 80+
lucky enough there was a tyre place in cornwall right where we were going and they sorted the for me
the had some food and a cuppa, the sandy turned up and as the Rolling road was in use we took a drive to Colin's
had a good chat with him, and worked planned already..lol
first job he will be doing for me is make my front suspension bodie's shorted so i can run the car lower (without bottoming out)
afte the great chat's we popped back to the RR and sandy started to do his magic
after a little bit i started to see smoke coming from behind the engine, no signs of oil or fluids?
then after a few more (load) runs sandy hands paul my big gromit, from where the loom entered the body
the extreme heat from being under load melted it :O AND has started to melt the seam sealler from my bulkhead mod
all from the lack of air flow i think, as i have never had an issue before
that was all that had a fault, which i was really pleased with
so a after sandy finished he came back with my ATW figure of 166 and a est of 190-195 ATF
consifering i never fitted any cams i was very happy with that
roll on Combe 4th of July
thanks again sandy, really appreciate you answering all my questions..lol and a great job you did on the car
Sandys a talented guy with building and mapping engines these days! met him a few times in my peugeot and rallye days really good guy!
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Originally Posted by Spiky

my brakes are VERY good,

this is something i been thinking about.. why are 205s SO good at stopping from high speed?! WAY better than RS turbos etc as they just seem to lock wheels ETC.

a guy was chasing me round track in a stripped out 3dr with Massive APs on the front of it, (warleydaddys old one off here)

there is NO way he could go as hard on the brakes as my standard gti-6 brakes lol.. he did try.. the result was two MASSIVE black lines leading off the track into the grass (no abs on that one then! lol)

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weight i guess , lack of momnet push the car forward?

i was out braking every car at permbrey the other week

i only had 1 "moment" under braking which didnt please my sister..lol

but othe than than the passengers werre getting push forward ALOT..lol
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Good figures for a nigh on stock engine Steve.

Your really need some proper cams in a NA engine to make it even start to feel great as they are far too smooth otherwise as you said.

The bonus for you is if you destroy an engine you have nothing more than a stock engine to source as a replacement

Just about specced my new engine so all going well that'll be finished by 2020
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Originally Posted by Spiky

paul was in the car and it felt quicker, i seemed to notice it more when paul was out (no offence paul..lol )

so maybe i'll take my passenger seat out now


good job you got no friends then








does pull better (even with me in it), sounds awesome on the road and looks hard as nails pulling away - proper weapon
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Good figures for a nigh on stock engine Steve.

Your really need some proper cams in a NA engine to make it even start to feel great as they are far too smooth otherwise as you said.

The bonus for you is if you destroy an engine you have nothing more than a stock engine to source as a replacement

Just about specced my new engine so all going well that'll be finished by 2020
lol at 2020

yeah, i really would like cams and i will gain another 10-15bhp

BUT the valve to piston at tdc is VERY close as standard and it would be a risk for me to put cams in

Originally Posted by 3dr-rally-slag


good job you got no friends then








does pull better (even with me in it), sounds awesome on the road and looks hard as nails pulling away - proper weapon



i meant, comparing no passeger before and after map
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Originally Posted by Spiky
lol at 2020

yeah, i really would like cams and i will gain another 10-15bhp

BUT the valve to piston at tdc is VERY close as standard and it would be a risk for me to put cams in
I'm just being realistic

Will the engines not take a mild set of cams or do you want something a bit wilder ?
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Great news mate with the mapping.

Looking forward to Combe, notlong now hey?

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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
I'm just being realistic

Will the engines not take a mild set of cams or do you want something a bit wilder ?

any cam makes it VERY close


Originally Posted by Luca
Great news mate with the mapping.

Looking forward to Combe, notlong now hey?


yeah cant wait, gutted i cant have a a go up against you
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Im kinda not you pedal like a loon round Combe.

Next year for sure though mate, im sure we will have some at Bedford, Combe etc

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big girl , i think you would have left me, but i would have had fun trying to catch you
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spiky how did u get on against the xsport silver 106 at combe ?
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Originally Posted by Nemesis,
spiky how did u get on against the xsport silver 106 at combe ?

that was a quick car, and must have some hard suspension on it, the driver seemed very good too,

i just put a vid on you tube with my following it, and then passing on the pit straight (though he may have backed off due to cheq flag)

but yeah, good 106 that,

spec?
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My castle combe video
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Originally Posted by Spiky
that was a quick car, and must have some hard suspension on it, the driver seemed very good too,

i just put a vid on you tube with my following it, and then passing on the pit straight (though he may have backed off due to cheq flag)

but yeah, good 106 that,

spec?
basicly its on gaz coilies ,306 brakes , cage with no interior stock 1.6 wich was over heating like mad lol and chadders enters it in the tin top series and he can peddle lol out of all my rides out that day his was the best as i just laughed and laughed
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Originally Posted by Spiky
quality steve ur car sounds awesome
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Managed to get some times on my phone for spiky as I was filming him,
its not the most accurate way of timing but being continuous split times give a good indication of lap times

these are from the session with the golf

1:23.30 = 1:23.30
2:45.82 = 1:22.52
4:07.18 = 1:21.36
5:29.76 = 1:22.58
8:15.87 = 2:46.11 (missed the split!!)
9:38.83 = 1:22.96


Please someone check the maths as I’ve been up since 4:30 this morning and just got back from work

These times were from the last session

1:23.67 = 1:23.67
2:46.86 = 1:23.19
4:10.24 = 1:23.38
5:34.09 = 1:23.85

again need to check the maths

not sure if you had a passenger for both these sessions or not but very impressive stuff
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Fair play, this thing bloody flies, seen it round the track and combe on the weekend, what a machine fairplay... car of the day on the track for me, just seemed so quick.
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cheers dude , was a good day
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how it stands now,
with it's big brother
and my trainee mechanic









and here are some pics taken at castle combe track day










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me my trust video camera has finally given up the ghost
so
i have been shopping and this is what i have bought for the car, SOOOOOO excited
2 bullet camers and a mic, and a QUAD processor, lets me have any screen setup i want, picture in picture and varios ways too
so my footage from now on should be interesting
here are some pics of the kit i bought








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