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Old 06-10-2010, 11:56 PM
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I was always under the asumption that a sleeper was a stock looking base model car with big power??

seems to be alot of just plain modified cars being posted up. I think once you have intercoolers poking out, a set of alloys, roll cage and bonnet pins etc it becomes obvious its not a sleeper. Which kind of defies the point?!?
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
I was always under the asumption that a sleeper was a stock looking base model car with big power??

seems to be alot of just plain modified cars being posted up. I think once you have intercoolers poking out, a set of alloys, roll cage and bonnet pins etc it becomes obvious its not a sleeper. Which kind of defies the point?!?
i do agree with you to a point, a true sleeper is something that looks totally unasuming, but packs a big punch, but there different level of sleeper too.
Something semi quick (like my mates astra i posted) that actually has supercar bashing performance is still sort of a sleeper to me.
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Originally Posted by WongRS
Something semi quick (like my mates astra i posted) that actually has supercar bashing performance is still sort of a sleeper to me.
See I dont think it works like that. Like an escort cosworth, not a blisteringly fast car as standard, but then you are never surprised to see one going like stink. If its a sport of performance model to begin with your are never as surprised to see it moving quickly, esspecially if its a popular car on the moding scene.
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
See I dont think it works like that. Like an escort cosworth, not a blisteringly fast car as standard, but then you are never surprised to see one going like stink. If its a sport of performance model to begin with your are never as surprised to see it moving quickly, esspecially if its a popular car on the moding scene.
yeah, i see what you mean, cosworth's/skylines/evo's ETC i don't think work as they are hardly ever standard.
But, lets say an Almera GTi with a pulsar engine i wouldnt expect, so id class that as a bit of a sleeper.
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Do there need to be hard and fast rules?

All of these cars are far far quicker than they should be, so are going to be pretty unsuspecting to Joe Average
Old 08-10-2010, 08:26 AM
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A few crackers there, that red civic is naughty!
Old 08-10-2010, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Do there need to be hard and fast rules?

All of these cars are far far quicker than they should be, so are going to be pretty unsuspecting to Joe Average
+1 agreed
Old 08-10-2010, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
See I dont think it works like that. Like an escort cosworth, not a blisteringly fast car as standard, but then you are never surprised to see one going like stink. If its a sport of performance model to begin with your are never as surprised to see it moving quickly, esspecially if its a popular car on the moding scene.

i see what your saying in your points but then think of the black xr2, if you dont know much about fords you wouldnt ever think it has efi turbo running gear under there till you heard the flutter lol, would be better without the bonnet raisers and on standard peppers tho, the astra is a good example too, standard looking gsi which are ok as standard then 200bhp of c20let powering it, not somthing you would expect. i have a xr3i atm, dropped on turbo rims but standard otherwise with 190bhp of turbo running gear, most dont expect it at all, just the exhaust sound and front mount just poking through are the only clues, then nothing a tin of black paint wont sort, not as unassuming as my estate was but still get the same effect, so most cars could be considered sleepers, just the big ones that everyone knows are quick cant get away with it.

This would be an awsome sleeper http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2113780.htm
Old 08-10-2010, 09:09 PM
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One of my fav's was this fiesta built by south coast performance, 400bhp to the rear wheels what more can you want


Old 08-10-2010, 09:32 PM
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Gotta agree, that was a really nice build. But wanted some silly money for it when it went for sale. Hope its still going

In regards to what sleepers should look like, I agree they should be pretty much stock, not even performance model looking i.e. RS body panels, sport etc.
Mine probably isn't regarded as a sleeper because of the wheels and visible diff in the back, but who really cares?! Just as long as it doesn't look like a rally car, it should pass as a sleeper.

F*ck it, I'm off back to the pub

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Old 08-10-2010, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
I was always under the asumption that a sleeper was a stock looking base model car with big power??

seems to be alot of just plain modified cars being posted up. I think once you have intercoolers poking out, a set of alloys, roll cage and bonnet pins etc it becomes obvious its not a sleeper. Which kind of defies the point?!?

I wasn't gonna post because you've all seen pics before because i'm pic happy, lol. but is this what you mean.





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Not really steve, it looks like a fookin shed! The xr2i is a good example imo, standard looks, but kicks ass! I will post some pics of my twin turbo 4i, subtley modified on the outside, 253 bhp on the inside.
Old 08-10-2010, 10:39 PM
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that sierra estate is wierdly cool, good sleeper lol
Old 09-10-2010, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BRIGSPORT
Not really steve, it looks like a fookin shed! The xr2i is a good example imo, standard looks, but kicks ass! I will post some pics of my twin turbo 4i, subtley modified on the outside, 253 bhp on the inside.

Yeah it did look like a shed that was the plan, but i got bored so swopped a few parts easy goes back to this, with a bonnet, bumper, mirror and wheel swop.

Old 09-10-2010, 11:01 AM
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Classed as a sleeper?

Back looks very standard


Focus RS engine

345 bhp 361 lb/ft
Old 09-10-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BRIGSPORT
Not really steve, it looks like a fookin shed! The xr2i is a good example imo, standard looks, but kicks ass! I will post some pics of my twin turbo 4i, subtley modified on the outside, 253 bhp on the inside.
wtf you on about

that sierra estate is the best looking sleeper on the thread

a sleeper is either a car that looks like a completely nail but goes like fuck or a tidy looking standard car that goes like fuck

that means no body mods, everything standard on the outside, say bar a set of wheels, but best sleepers are best left with std wheels that they come on from factory

another sort of sleeper is something that looks like nice but isnt expected to go very fast, but i wouldnt class these as true sleepers
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Originally Posted by steves24V's
I wasn't gonna post because you've all seen pics before because i'm pic happy, lol. but is this what you mean.
That is the pinacle of the term sleeper. Looks like it couldnt out perform askateboard, but i bet it goes like stink!
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Originally Posted by Alex the kid
Classed as a sleeper?

Back looks very standard


Focus RS engine

345 bhp 361 lb/ft
Would not class that as a sleeper at all. Wide arches, big alloys showing off big brakes, intercooler on display through front bumper. Looks like a highly modified car.
A very nice one mind.
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I'd class my fiesta as a true sleeper heard some guy say at a rwyb a few months back look at that old piece of shit there soon changed his tune when it ran a high 12 1/4 mile there's nt much that gives it away really the bonnet sits a bit raised at the back but only to clear the boost pipes!

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that is the nicest mk2 fiesta i've seen totally amazing
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Cheers for the kind comments towards mine! Bonnet raiser has been removed since those pics, would love to put it back on pepper pots but they wont fit over the breaks unfortunately. Might go back to xr2 calipers eventually tho.

Grant
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Originally Posted by QplateRST!
I'd class my fiesta as a true sleeper heard some guy say at a rwyb a few months back look at that old piece of shit there soon changed his tune when it ran a high 12 1/4 mile there's nt much that gives it away really the bonnet sits a bit raised at the back but only to clear the boost pipes!

Proper sleeper, looks right (but should be better with steelies) and gives amazing figures down the strip.
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i think if i came across n escort xr3i with turbo wheels and a visible intercooler i would expect it to be fast.true sleepers are something that doesnt look or shouldnt be fast in the 1st place.
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Now that's a proper sleeper. Even has a tow ball!
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heres mine 2.1zetec turbo mk2 fiesta



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Originally Posted by robp-tt
heres mine 2.1zetec turbo mk2 fiesta]
love it !!!
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
I was always under the asumption that a sleeper was a stock looking base model car with big power??

seems to be alot of just plain modified cars being posted up. I think once you have intercoolers poking out, a set of alloys, roll cage and bonnet pins etc it becomes obvious its not a sleeper. Which kind of defies the point?!?
I totally agree, I regard my Ka as a sleeper simply because it's matt black (the nail look) and it's a Ka, no one expects a Ka to be quick!
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Originally Posted by robp-tt
heres mine 2.1zetec turbo mk2 fiesta
That's fucking mint!
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Ok you want a standard looking car with no hint of performance? heres my old golf! 1.3 gls shell with 2.8 vr6 turbo engine! steel wheels,standard looking shell etc, missile on wheels!




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Guess mines in the middle of sleeper and highly modifed. Looks like your average tidy Corsa on Speedlines from rear and side but quite comftably sees off stage 3 cossies on a bar of boost. More to come soon !!






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Originally Posted by AquariousRS
Guess mines in the middle of sleeper and highly modifed. Looks like your average tidy Corsa on Speedlines from rear and side but quite comftably sees off stage 3 cossies on a bar of boost. More to come soon !!





Nice corsa mate but if i seen you coming up behind me id automatically think oh theres a 2.0 turbo corsa because of the massive intercooler poking out the bumper! if it was the silver one in the pic then yeah total sleeper! but nice car anyway, bet its very quick
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I agree, cant really creep up on people, but say something pulls up beside me at a set of lights its a bit different.
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Mine


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Originally Posted by AquariousRS
Guess mines in the middle of sleeper and highly modifed. Looks like your average tidy Corsa on Speedlines from rear and side but quite comftably sees off stage 3 cossies on a bar of boost. More to come soon !!





saw this at Ford Fair this year on the track.. it was epic.. sounded absolutley out of this world on full tilt down the pit straight.. awesome car..
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Originally Posted by Roosie
Mine


Awesome, only word for it...
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Mine


Love that mate! really like the shape of them fiestas as well!
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what a great thread keep um coming
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Originally Posted by bigryrs
Ok you want a standard looking car with no hint of performance? heres my old golf! 1.3 gls shell with 2.8 vr6 turbo engine! steel wheels,standard looking shell etc, missile on wheels!




Without a doubt the fastest car i have ever driven. fact


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