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Old 02-10-2005, 07:00 PM
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Have decided to dump Castrol RS & change to SILKOLENE. Big decision cos Mark always advises Castrol but Mark was with Keith at Brunters this week & now im being advised to use it.
Thanks to Opie oils for supplying it to me.

www.opieoils.co.uk
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Just out of interest, why the switch?
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thats what i use in mine. the pro race stuff.
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Silkolene Pro R is what Rod (Bell) advises for all high performance turbo motors.
Old 02-10-2005, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rab
Just out of interest, why the switch?

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All oils do there job even shit ones Thats if you change the oil every 2000 miles!

...All the Castrol/Mobil 1/Sikolene are designed to keep good for 20k odd miles!So why use it when you change every 2-3k is madness

Although saying that i run Mobil 1 and chuck it every 2k miles I think i will go Sikolene next..fucking madness but what the hell aslong as WE feel we doin good
Old 02-10-2005, 07:14 PM
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phil your spot on there
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...maybe Rodney has found that company give OAP discounts ROFL


Sorry Rod but you diss me...so your getting it back!
Old 02-10-2005, 07:21 PM
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Whats so good about it then?
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Originally Posted by Rab
Just out of interest, why the switch?

because mark told him to and that was because keith told him to lol
Old 02-10-2005, 07:27 PM
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Surely there's a reason behind it? Apart from cos someone said to.
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im surprised he just didnt tell u to get a decent engine just like his
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Originally Posted by aduz
im surprised he just didnt tell u to get a decent engine just like his
Kieth has utmost respect for my engine & knows if i had 2 more cylinders & another litre to play with he would be eating my dirt & not the other way round .
Old 02-10-2005, 07:35 PM
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If you want an explanation on the virtues of Silkolene oils for very high performance turbo engines check out oilmans posts/essay on the GTR register

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/sh...ad.php?t=40720

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/sh...ad.php?t=40720
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
All oils do there job even shit ones Thats if you change the oil every 2000 miles!

...All the Castrol/Mobil 1/Sikolene are designed to keep good for 20k odd miles!So why use it when you change every 2-3k is madness
PMSL, you talk some crap.

You take a "shit" oil and run it in a performance turbo car (most turbo cars have been modified for performance becuase its so easy to extract more bhp out of a turbo car) and drive it hard on the road or on the track for a few miles and see if it lasts

Plus Bal agrees with Phil, proves im right
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@ Andy

Thats to do with grades...use a suitable non synthetic oil and it WONT damage your engine...FULL synthetics just protect LONGER.

...if you believe an Oil salesman then i guess you beleive ALL salesman

...but hey Oil companies are safe cause i talk shit..even though its the truth a respected person cant say that IU am so happy not to be listened too as i can say WHATS real and all the little people think its bollocks

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Originally Posted by Rab
Just out of interest, why the switch?
The extreme conditions under which we put the engine will benifit a better oil, Kieth convinced Mark that Silkolene would cope better than Castrol as simple as that.
Rod
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Phil, run off and ask uncle mikey if a cheap oil is as good as an expensive oil ( grade for grade)

Why have you got a pot of sperm thats 4 days old, where you trying to doing a home IQ count ?
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Rab
Just out of interest, why the switch?
The extreme conditions under which we put the engine will benifit a better oil, Kieth convinced Mark that Silkolene would cope better than Castrol as simple as that.
Rod
thing is... were you having problems with the Castrol oil? i doubt Silkoline will be any better than Castrol... unless Silkoline are giving it you free!
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andy can you explain why it won last ????

take a semi synthetic oil and place it in a normally modded cossie and see what happens,,,,,,,,,,,,,, FOOK ALL, it just looses its life sooner !!!!, due to heat thats all

andy just cause you dont agree with what i say dont mean i talk shit, most people change oil too early

infact take my cabrio for example, ive NEVER changed the oil in it for over 18 months and 35k miles, i dont exactly look after it, just done the gearbox a few weeks ago due to all my abusive driving


apart from the noisy lifters ( that where like that when i bought it too ) the engine runs fine


oh and lets not talk about my cossie that i drove to southend, ragged the pants out of it trying donuts ect to test the diff and drove home due, was knocking, discovered it was OUT of oil , didnt reg on the dipstick !!!!!, slapped oil in and the knocking stopped( well was back to how it sounded anyway


took the engine apart and the bearings are fine, was taken apart as the running of no oil was assumed for the recent knock in the engine was down to fooked little ends


they are fine, i bent 3 rods hence the noise


so the oil thing is just to ease peoples minds


infact ive got a mate that uses semi synth and always has done in his car and i have always said he will kill his car,,,,,,,,,,,,, my cars having a engine and his has engine has just gone in the 5th car hes owned, the car engine is out living his cars


so if ya use semi synth and change every 1000 miles then i really cant see the difference in a normal road car
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Andy to a certain milage YES it is.

What does Mike or ANYONE know about oil REALLY?

..As for my sperm...i make a load of cash by selling it on street corners childless females..its like a fix man.

I do apologise for the above comment my randy dog made me write it whilst i fondled one of her 8 nipples...i so lucky to have a bitch like this.

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thing is... were you having problems with the Castrol oil? i doubt Silkoline will be any better than Castrol...
i agree with martin here, no problems with rods car as hes said, hes used it everyday with no issues, done how many top speed runs and no need for a rebuild

so why the change ???? ( not asking you rod as you have replied was a general question)
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
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Thats to do with grades...use a suitable non synthetic oil and it WONT damage your engine...FULL synthetics just protect LONGER.

...if you believe an Oil salesman then i guess you beleive ALL salesman

...but hey Oil companies are safe cause i talk shit..even though its the truth a respected person cant say that IU am so happy not to be listened too as i can say WHATS real and all the little people think its bollocks
Shit you say , bout right. Phil.
Dont ever attempt a Topspeed run Phil you wont get to the end. Even the best oil needs changing every 1500miles in my car even on the street or we risk the engine.
Its the engine we are trying to protect not finding out how long you can leave the oil in place before its not protecting your bearings.
Can i suggest Mark knows what hes doing & you aint got a clue.
Todate we have completed 17 timed Topspeed runs including the 7 fastest ever by a Cosworth & we aint dropped an engine yet. We change the oil before & after every Topspeed run, I wonder why.

Rod
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Just a small point but silkolene dont exist any more. Bought by fuchs a while back. Now building houses on silkolene site. What you buy now is not what it used to be...
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rod i think your missing phils point here

you change the oil, drive 50miles and change it again, never had any issues with castrol,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, whats the difference
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Just a small point but silkolene dont exist any more



would have been soooo funnier if ya said that castrol bought em though
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[quote="MADRod Todate we have completed 17 timed Topspeed including the 7 fastest ever by a Cosworth & we aint dropped an engine yet. We change the oil before & after every Topspeed run, I wonder why.

Rod[/quote]

Rod, i never lost an engine either and i did plenty of back to back top speed runs and only changed the engine oil after 1000 miles or when i remembered to! i changed the gearbox oil more frequently than the engine oil...
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Rod you may suggest what you like but none of us REALLY know anything about oil!!!!!!!

...why is it then people diss mobil 1 motorsport?..designed with the help of Maclaren...but why do some people not use it and say its shit?...They experts NOPE...engine failures are never anything to do with shit OIL its whats mixed in it like SWARF water etc

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was gonna say most cossie engines fail due to petrol strikes from the injectors

infact the bearing failures are due to the sealent from what i seem to see
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Originally Posted by b19bal
infact the bearing failures are due to the sealent from what i seem to see
No the bearing failues were down to ham fisted plonkers using too much sealant
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still means the oil was fine

only reason to buy the silkolen is the pretty colour
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Originally Posted by MADRod
Originally Posted by Rab
Just out of interest, why the switch?
The extreme conditions under which we put the engine will benifit a better oil, Kieth convinced Mark that Silkolene would cope better than Castrol as simple as that.
Rod
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Rod the old boy got it wrong It was Rod B I was talking to on why he had changed from RS to Silky and as I had been debaiting the change to it for a while I thought it was time to give it a go , Hence the change.

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i changed from castrol to silkolene pro s a while ago best thing i ever did.
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there are reasons silkolene is better than Castrol RS, oilman has explained countless times on here why, and even provided test results.

to quote from another post ;

POPEYE wrote:
so what you are saying is that castrol is shit basically bigcry.gif


No, it doesn't say that. The point is that there are better quality oils out there that are tougher and better for extreme applications. By this I mean modded cars and track days etc.

The Castrol is labelled a synthetic but in fact it is not a proper one (pao/ester based), unlike the others mentioned here which is evidenced by the shear stability which meets the minimums required by API and ACEA.

In conclusion there are better oils out there.
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I bought a load of the Silkolene a while ago after speaking to the Oilman very helpful ,top service. Still not tried it yet though
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Originally Posted by Ian M
i changed from castrol to silkolene pro s a while ago best thing i ever did.
Best thing you EVER did!!! Bloody hell it must be good!!

In what way was it the best thing you ever did??
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Originally Posted by MADRod
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im surprised he just didnt tell u to get a decent engine just like his
Kieth has utmost respect for my engine & knows if i had 2 more cylinders & another litre to play with he would be eating my dirt & not the other way round .
personally i dont think you need it... just go carbon... you can get into weights that skylines cannot even dream... this will compensate for the smaller engine which can push 500++ hp per liter...
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
there are reasons silkolene is better than Castrol RS, oilman has explained countless times on here why, and even provided test results.

to quote from another post ;

POPEYE wrote:
so what you are saying is that castrol is shit basically bigcry.gif


No, it doesn't say that. The point is that there are better quality oils out there that are tougher and better for extreme applications. By this I mean modded cars and track days etc.

The Castrol is labelled a synthetic but in fact it is not a proper one (pao/ester based), unlike the others mentioned here which is evidenced by the shear stability which meets the minimums required by API and ACEA.

In conclusion there are better oils out there.


all well and good, thats the same as saying waitrose tea bags are better cause they pass a much harder test so all cafes MUST use it to keep there customers healthy


what im saying is if yu change your oil every 3k ANYWAY considering that oil changes are actually recomended every 12k ( yes the cosworth and erst are in that catogory too belive it or not) then a better oil is no different

silkolene is ment to last longer, THATS the reason to use it, people have been using mobil 1 for years and they have had no issues, ive never heard of a cossie or turbo really packing up to to worn out oil at 3k


that means its as much use as a turning up the stereo to keep a noisy engine quiet


infact contaminated oil is just a excuse to cop out of replacing a turbo under waranty


ill repeat again, a mate uses semi synth in his beige injector frst, always has and hes car dont melt or rattle

infact the only difference ive found is he buys oil for 6quid trade and i pay 70 quid to do a oil change on me cossie
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its not the mileage your doing with the oil that's the issue really, when you have a tuned engine that you drive hard then the oil temps can go through the roof, this is when you want the protection, you could drive a tuned cossie on treacle for all i care , but when i'm revving to 7k i want to feel safe that the oil isn't gonna break down and turn to shit,

i'll agree that a standard engine will be fine on the manufacturers guidelines regarding oil changes, but as soon as you up the power then as you know things need taking care of more.

£70 for an oil change that's pricey!!

if your happy with your oil then good for you, but when you listen to an expert such as Stu , Karl etc with regards to tuning, and no doubt they are some of the best in their field then why not listen to an expert when it comes to other things? i'm gonna be ordering some oil tomorrow and it's only costing about £30 - £35 delivered.

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