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Old 06-09-2005, 09:12 PM
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im changing the light fittings in my bedroom. theres 3 wires coming out of the wall. the old bases were metal so the earth was connected to these. so my question is where/what should i do with the earth from the wall as the new bases are plastic and have no earth!

cheers in advance and remember im a novice in all this!
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the new bases should still have an earth tag on if they meet british standards....
Unless they are old stock maybe......

If not just leave the earth wire coiled in the base,make sure it is sleeved tho...
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just connect any earth wires together in a piece of terminal block to maintain loop continuity, and tuck it to one side. it doesn't need to be connected to the new plastic base.
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the bases dont have an earth tag so thats why i was a bit puzzled! shocky goods!

so i'll leave them in a terminal block then glad i dont have to put them back through the wall looking for an earth there!

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Just make sure all 3 are connected to continue the Earth circuit. Light switches are not earth inless they are metal. How on earth can ya earth plastic
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All new plastic fittings have an earth tag....

Something to do with british standard No.bla bla bollox etc...
Old 06-09-2005, 11:23 PM
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16th edition bibbs style standard
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apparently tests prove thats better than 1st edition matt bell standard! have one of these back
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Originally Posted by nightdavva
All new plastic fittings have an earth tag....

Something to do with british standard No.bla bla bollox etc...
how comes the ones we use arent then? And in new housing they have to meet all stds!
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by nightdavva
All new plastic fittings have an earth tag....

Something to do with british standard No.bla bla bollox etc...
how comes the ones we use arent then? And in new housing they have to meet all stds!
Dunno mate....all the new plastic backboxes coming through have an earth terminal,so i presume all other fittings will catch up...
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yeah but the plastic backs have for ages to continue the earth...not to earth the plastic

Maybe they havent started using them 'officially' then yet
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as far as i know there is still no law on electrical regulations! the 16th ed regs are a guide (but it can also be used in court against you )
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
as far as i know there is still no law on electrical regulations! the 16th ed regs are a guide (but it can also be used in court against you )

Ah yes but the 16th edition contains many elements that are law(part "p" of the building regs,Electricity at Work act ,etc)So even though its not statutory a lot of whats in it is....

And as you rightly point out it is admissable in court..
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Whats the requirement for self certing your work guy's? Heard you have to be able to certify your work or a building inspector has to sign it off
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You gotta get on the registered installer scheme mate,try contacting the NIC or the ECA.....

Think there is other agencies doin it too...
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We install UPS Systems, usually leaving ac installation to others but on smaller systems we sometimes are asked to cable the 3 phase input from adjacent breaker and then output into dis board. We' ve been using a sub to check it but unsure if its actually required.

Any idea what someone would need to get registered, i.e qualifications?
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Ah.................if its commercial or industrial mate it doesnt matter.......Part "P" of the building regs is to cover "Dwellings" only....ie domestic installations..

Yuo can self certify any of your commercial or industrial work with generic certificates available from the ECA or NIC...
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Thats cool then, thanks
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