The RST in performance Ford mag this month
12-05-2005, 12:42 PM
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Hi pretty new to the forum and read this post and said artical in PF with great interest.
Always been interested in tuning and have done some myself mainly on bikes but that would equate to a trillianth of what Jamsport have done (probably less than that
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I am also a bikes salesman and every year when the new models arrive we always say how can they possibly improve on the last. Put simply they push the boundries that little furthure never satisfied with whats gone before.
The roundabout point I am making that to my mind thats clearly what Jamsport are doing (and lets face it, it's what any good tuner should do) pushing boundries and revising whats gone before.
So for my two cents, hats off Jamsport and heres to the artists with die grinders
Always been interested in tuning and have done some myself mainly on bikes but that would equate to a trillianth of what Jamsport have done (probably less than that
) I am also a bikes salesman and every year when the new models arrive we always say how can they possibly improve on the last. Put simply they push the boundries that little furthure never satisfied with whats gone before.
The roundabout point I am making that to my mind thats clearly what Jamsport are doing (and lets face it, it's what any good tuner should do) pushing boundries and revising whats gone before.
So for my two cents, hats off Jamsport and heres to the artists with die grinders
12-05-2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
b) the myth that performance times always confirm that a certain car has a certain bhp figure.
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Doesnt Kev sharpes times piss on that?, he hasnt got monster bhp but some very impressive times!
12-05-2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Christian, I'm not starting anything like that, merely trying to dispel a) the myth that unless a car has tons of mods that on paper add up to xxxbhp it can't have xxxbhp, and b) the myth that performance times always confirm that a certain car has a certain bhp figure.
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Interestingly, the claim from me that received the biggest barrage was 267bhp, which is quite ironic really, considering the car was running a rebuilt, lightened and balanced engine, Low Comp, Stage 3 Head, T2 Cam, Stage 3 Turbo (on 28psi), GRS Cooler, Omex Management with 803 Injectors etc etc.
12-05-2005, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
Originally Posted by Westy
yeah thats phat innit..
always thought it was spelt Fat
Any pics of this phat 
Focus
anyway, going to buy PFord and see what all the fuss is about 
always thought it was spelt Fat
Any pics of this phat Focus anyway, going to buy PFord and see what all the fuss is about
I hear you BULLET PROOF focus was a bag of shit when it went to pumabuild.
THis is the guy who put air vents above the spark plug cover so when it rained water ran in and around the spark plugs causing it to misfire like a bitch.
Clever dude
12-05-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
any pics of the engine
think he sold it before it went boom though
Dont some kiddos make you laugh, think he just wants to get a name for himself but slating some well known tuners
This is the guy to look out for
12-05-2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Phat_focus
Originally Posted by MarkyMark
Originally Posted by Westy
yeah thats phat innit..
always thought it was spelt Fat Any pics of this phat Focus
anyway, going to buy PFord and see what all the fuss is about
always thought it was spelt Fat
Any pics of this phat Focus anyway, going to buy PFord and see what all the fuss is about
I hear you BULLET PROOF focus was a bag of shit when it went to pumabuild.
THis is the guy who put air vents above the spark plug cover so when it rained water ran in and around the spark plugs causing it to misfire like a bitch.
Clever dude
Not quite kiddo, the bloke that bought it off me run the car without a limiter and upped the boost making it go boom, he never owned a turbo before, just like you
Did you manage to sell it
12-05-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
Never mind Nick's car, how do you explain my old grey S2? 0-60: 6.02, 1/4-mile: 14.49 at 100.87mph?! Chip, water injection, exhaust!!!!!
12-05-2005, 05:03 PM
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My S2 was had the Pe stuff and stg 3 turbo that RW's had - twas amazingly fast before the cam belt snapped and hosed the whole thing I also spent along time flowing all the small lips n ridges in the inlet tract. It made alot of power at the top end. Its new owner is fitting the rebuilt head and a PE bottom end to it so its going to be interesting to see what it makes with a new bottom end rather than a 130k mile one.
I also spent along time flowing all the small lips n ridges in the inlet tract. It made alot of power at the top end. Its new owner is fitting the rebuilt head and a PE bottom end to it so its going to be interesting to see what it makes with a new bottom end rather than a 130k mile one.
12-05-2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
Originally Posted by Westy
yeah thats phat innit..
always thought it was spelt Fat Any pics of this phat Focus
anyway, going to buy PFord and see what all the fuss is about
always thought it was spelt Fat
Any pics of this phat Focus anyway, going to buy PFord and see what all the fuss is about
12-05-2005, 08:40 PM
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Interesting thread.
IMO, when you get the right combination of mods you can have excellent performance for little cost. When I started modding my RST i only had a power engineering chip and at 1 bar I had 176bhp.
I then added water injection, exhaust, air filter and ran 17psi. the engine was the 80000 mile old original and even with the standard intercooler my car pissed on scoobys and easily kept up with my mates 300+BHP Evo.
If I get another ERST i will only do basic tuning because Ł for Ł its the best value for money.
IMO, when you get the right combination of mods you can have excellent performance for little cost. When I started modding my RST i only had a power engineering chip and at 1 bar I had 176bhp.
I then added water injection, exhaust, air filter and ran 17psi. the engine was the 80000 mile old original and even with the standard intercooler my car pissed on scoobys and easily kept up with my mates 300+BHP Evo.
If I get another ERST i will only do basic tuning because Ł for Ł its the best value for money.
12-05-2005, 09:36 PM
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Mine had 183bhp with a PE chip and 1bar. With the PE, sorry Vulcan!, Stage3 head and cam it made 195bhp, no lag and revved like crazy - that was the best level of tune it had IMO.
13-05-2005, 07:18 AM
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I wanna put my car on there rollers. I fancy 170bhp form my totally standard S2
Why dont you bring it over on saturday then? Its less than an hour away from birmingham
Im sure they could fit you in no problem if you want to come along on saturday... the offer still stands
13-05-2005, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PF Ben
PS: Sunny - because my car achieved those times (apparently the only 'real' test of true power in your eyes) does that mean my car had nearly 300-320bhp as C&B's car when we last featured it (5.94 to 60, 14.4 1/4 at 104.2?!!!! or does it mean C&B's car had around the same power as my car - 185ish? )
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(btw...I am sure you do). Your one example of Christians car doesnt really count for sh!t in comparison to the 100's of other proven cars with 1/4 mile terminal / top speeds being a very good indication of HP. Look at Rods, Martin's, mine, Simon Norris, Ronnie and loads of other big power cars etc etc terminal speeds and top speeds and you can clearly see the the real picture in comparison to your Christan VS your old motor's results scenario. There are many elements involved that could of been the cause of Christians car's terminals etc (I don't know Christians best, consistant terminal speeds or spec / power output) however I care not to comment on that as I don't have the time of day to disrespect him or anyone else on here (it ALWAYS gets taken that way here) although Mike Rainbirds reply directly after your post puts things in perspective quite nicely (remember Christian...I didn't say it...Mike did so don't start!) End of the day...you want a PROPER power figure...goto a dyno, you want a good example of in-car power look at the quater mile terminal speeds.
Going to bed now as I've just finished a 14hr nightshift (can't be asked to read my reply again so if it's full of spelling mistakes then I appologise).
Thanks = Sunny.
ps- Please don't take my post too seriously......I come in peace although I was born here and have a legit UK passport!
13-05-2005, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JAMSPORT DAN
You come here to slate, and take the piss, so be slated yourself..!!!!!!!!!!1
NO!
I come on here to offer help and advise or to get some myself! Try searching for my replies and look for yourself instead of trying to make any of us look bad.
IF YOU READ THE POST!
YOU WILL SEE THAT I DIDNT SLATE YOUR WORK & YOU TURNED THIS PERSONAL AGAINST MY WORK!
13-05-2005, 09:50 AM
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Hi Sunny, it's cool mate I DO agree with you, and 99.99% of the time the timing gear is a true indication of a cars power (hence why in my previous post I said,
"b) the myth that performance times always confirm that a certain car has a certain bhp figure."
Everyone note the 'always'.
The car with more power and the grip to match, driven right, SHOULD be quicker than another with less power and the grip to match, driven right.
Ben
"b) the myth that performance times always confirm that a certain car has a certain bhp figure."
Everyone note the 'always'.
The car with more power and the grip to match, driven right, SHOULD be quicker than another with less power and the grip to match, driven right.
Ben
13-05-2005, 10:04 AM
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jano's motor aint the flagship anymore...
theres already been a oddkidd creations zetec build already which has now just been taken to a new level 909 CGI block ect.. so who now needs to catch up with ya poxy "offensive" motor.. wot a fuking gay word :gayflag:
theres already been a oddkidd creations zetec build already which has now just been taken to a new level 909 CGI block ect.. so who now needs to catch up with ya poxy "offensive" motor.. wot a fuking gay word :gayflag:
13-05-2005, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by essexrsturbo
jano's motor aint the flagship anymore...
theres already been a oddkidd creations zetec build already which has now just been taken to a new level 909 CGI block ect.. so who now needs to catch up with ya poxy "offensive" motor.. wot a fuking gay word :gayflag:
theres already been a oddkidd creations zetec build already which has now just been taken to a new level 909 CGI block ect.. so who now needs to catch up with ya poxy "offensive" motor.. wot a fuking gay word :gayflag:
Jano if your the one with the xr3/turbo converted black car.. then ive heard the things you say to people... your a prat, shut your mouth before someone does it for you, you total cheese end.
13-05-2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Ben,
If that's the case, then why pick on Christian's 0-60 / quarters (where lets be honest, a 2 year old could do a better job of launching his car ) 
. You just picked an example that you knew would suit your arguement .
If that's the case, then why pick on Christian's 0-60 / quarters (where lets be honest, a 2 year old could do a better job of launching his car
) . You just picked an example that you knew would suit your arguement .