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Old 14-04-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Dump Valve removal!

Right, im quite sick of the noise of the dump valve however, when i asked Stu a whileback to remove the dumpvalve, he confirmed that the standard dump valve had been removed so advised not to take it off.

Is there a 'silent' dump valve i could buy? As i quite like the sound of loud as fcuk chatter!!
Old 14-04-2005, 02:32 PM
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If you want loud chatter than just blank off where the dumper goes, simple.

A silent dumpvalve will partially or totally remove chatter
Old 14-04-2005, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
If you want loud chatter than just blank off where the dumper goes, simple.

A silent dumpvalve will partially or totally remove chatter
Will this damage the turbo though??
Old 14-04-2005, 02:39 PM
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No i it wont damage the turbo, unless you are running a high boost T34 or a T4.

I believe the reason they were originally fitted was for Homolagation reasons and
to rid the noise of the chatter............


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Old 14-04-2005, 03:40 PM
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I don't use 1,got sick of it,and the "chatter" sounds much nicer IMO. Apparently it's got fook all to do with the wastegate tho,it's the air getting chopped up or something clever.
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Mmm but does a turbo have some sort of protection/dump valve on it as standard? Maybe Stu can describe better what i mean??
Old 14-04-2005, 03:49 PM
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I have No d/v or recirculating valve on mine and it chatters its nuts off
Old 14-04-2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
I have No d/v or recirculating valve on mine and it chatters its nuts off
Will it make my battery run flat though Tiff??
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Oh, and can i just use a broom handle?? PMSL
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When I removed my dump valve it killed the turbo !!!

It was a 450 bhp roller bearing turbo and it bent the shaft.
It happened between gear changes on low boost.

Completely my fault for listening to bad advice
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Right, if i blank the dump off, what do i do with teh tubing that comes from the inlet? blank that off?
Old 14-04-2005, 04:16 PM
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ford didnt fit them just for fun, ive fitted a piston recirc type on the cold side then reconnected it to the intake hose as in a rs500 set up, doesnt sound too bad at all now
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Originally Posted by K3V HA
Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
I have No d/v or recirculating valve on mine and it chatters its nuts off
Will it make my battery run flat though Tiff??
Old 14-04-2005, 04:29 PM
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Remove it if you wish, but get ready for stalling at every junction and overfuelling problems galore

Ignore this lot who havent a clue what they are talking about*












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Originally Posted by SECS
When I removed my dump valve it killed the turbo !!!

It happened between gear changes on low boost.

Completely my fault for listening to bad advice
On low boost? Bearing in mind a lot of turbos handle it no bother even at mega boost id put that down to bad luck or a shat turbo rather than no DV.

Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Remove it if you wish, but get ready for stalling at every junction and overfuelling problems galore

Ignore this lot who havent a clue what they are talking about*
Aaaah, so his is a small turbo with an AFM then!

Nope, you NEED a dumpvalve then, bloody stoopid AFMs...
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Mmm but does a turbo have some sort of protection/dump valve on it as standard?
Yes,a wastegate.
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Originally Posted by plynchy
Mmm but does a turbo have some sort of protection/dump valve on it as standard?
Yes,a wastegate.
eh? wastegates to control boost, which is owt to do with the function of a DV.
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eh? wastegates to control boost, which is owt to do with the function of a DV.
Tongue in cheek remark mate. I suppose you could argue that a wastegate is "some form of protection" cos without it working the turbo won't last long.
Old 15-04-2005, 09:03 AM
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Itsmeagain,
Aaaah, so his is a small turbo with an AFM then!
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I wont remove it then!! Is there no way i can get loud chatter??
Old 15-04-2005, 09:12 AM
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Yes pal.
Secs S8, marrelli, Pectel T6, Autronic.. the list goes on
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ok what is afm

now im lost
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Yes pal.
Secs S8, marrelli, Pectel T6, Autronic.. the list goes on
How much!!
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AFM = air flow meter...
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Originally Posted by b19bal
ok what is afm

now im lost
Air Flow Meter mate
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Beaten too it by rainbird
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Air Flow meter
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I shall mostly be buying some nice hoses this sunday to be able to remove my DV
Old 15-04-2005, 09:42 AM
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afm is a air flow meter,like a rst a restriction from the turbo to the air filter.measures air flow to give another dimension to the mapping.
Old 15-04-2005, 09:43 AM
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I got a d/v blank if u need 1!
Old 15-04-2005, 10:58 AM
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Anyone know if the standard re-circ on the Focus can be removed?! I've got a cone filter + you can hear it pretty loudly, wonder if I could get chatter?! If so where's the best place to get blanking plugs?? Central day?!
Old 15-04-2005, 11:07 AM
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i got a blankin plug nath!

can bring it with me to pod!
Old 15-04-2005, 01:02 PM
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Cheers Lewis but don't worry about it. Want to get conformation/some elses experience if it's safe/possible on the FRS first, then I'm sure they're only a few quid from Rainbird!
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If FRS has no AFM (im sure itsa MAP based setup yea?) then you can do it.

Have they a recirc one as std?
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Steve, yes it has a re-cird std + has no AFM (well AFAIK)

I'm still a little concerned about turbo life though!
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My SX chatters like a monkey on crack!
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Nath, your turbo will last for ever, as it never sees any boost anyway
Old 15-04-2005, 04:09 PM
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hi all, i normally dont even look at posts reguardin dump valves, as im sick of all the peeps talking crap iv had one of stus dv on for years and never had any probs or damage the simple fact is if it dident have one fitted a standard its up to you weather u fit one or not..simple or if you have erst fit one of stus electronic box,s ..and dont fit anodised
i talked to the guys at castle about it and he said d/v were first thought of by ford, and said when collin mcrae was rallyin thay were devised so he cud change gear faster.. thus gettin rid of the back pressure and bein able to change gear faster so people should look into why thay were first invented!!! instead of slaging them off, if you dont like them take it off, or if it was made with it on you should leave it on and not vent to atmosphere whitch is what ford did
i have a switch on my erst and can turn it off or on , and i think it deff goes thru the gears better with it ON!!!


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