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Old 27-06-2018, 09:45 AM
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Really ? Proves how much this guy don't know....
states it can be used on a Weber ecu.

What's your thoughts?
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i was about to buy one of them but instead opted for a 3bar from GGR instead
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It can be used but i think james or someone else said the range is a bit big to get a suitable signal resolution on the old webber ecu if that makes sense.

Edit: and you would need a 4 bar sensor specific map.

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Old 27-06-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_Mat
It can be used but i think james or someone else said the range is a bit big to get a suitable signal resolution on the old webber ecu if that makes sense.

Edit: and you would need a 4 bar sensor specific map.
That's what I was told. He could not get it to run nice.
Be nice if they could.
Old 27-06-2018, 09:51 PM
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I’m not keen on the brands hatch stuff but I have a 5 bar sensor on my car still using level 8

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i will be running omex so to me it doesnt really matter anyway
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They all just give out a 0-5v signal.....so pretty much any sensor would be usable.

But do try and avoid cheap chinese shite for what is critical component.

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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
They all just give out a 0-5v signal.....so pretty much any sensor would be usable.

But do try and avoid cheap chinese shite for what is critical component.
I’d imagine 90% of electronics originates from China/Korea
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
I’d imagine 90% of electronics originates from China/Korea
Off this post a bit but regarding Chinese made goods there seems to be no middle road with their stuff, its either top quality which is as good as anything made from top producers or really poorly made crap.
I have recently fitted a new turbo on my Sons Subaru Impreza WRX STI made by Mamba and the engineering quality of it is superb. Came with all the testing information done in the factory as well. We also bought a tuned length exhaust manifold and again were suprised at the top quality of it.
My Brother bought a Chinese lathe and he said its as good as anything he has had in the past made in America and he has been an engineer all his life.
Chinese made electronics are in most big brand names of TVs, music systems etc and most people are probably not even aware of it.
The other end of the scale is the piss poorly made cheap crap that is flooding the country from China that a lot of us have come across. This is probably why most people wrongly assume all stuff made in China is rubbish.
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
I’d imagine 90% of electronics originates from China/Korea
As cossy says....there is no real middle of the road.

The stuff is usually shite, or good. More usually the former.

I've tried a few cheap sensors for various things ( never actual engine control though, just logging ). One failed after 2 days, and was replaced under warranty. The second failed again after a few days.

I tried one of the cheap 4 bar GM copy MAP sensors for logging some stuff....the sensor body actually melted from engine heat and came apart.
Although same with any such sensor, it's just a PCM mount sensor stuffed into a larger external body and in that case glued together with cheap glue.

Over in the US there are many reports of the cheap GM copy sensors failing.

Although no doubt there are thousands out there working too. What do you do ? Risk an engine for same of spending say £100 vs £30 ?

In the US, most are now just starting to use the GM ZR1 3 bar sensor ( which suits a lot too as it simply bolts into the intake, which would need to be adapted for any other applications )
But it's a cheap OEM sensor so you know it will be reliable

https://www.efi-performance.com/product-p/sens05.htm

EU sourced ? ( I've used this myself and it seems to be ok )

https://shop.vems.hu/catalog/sensor-...ple-p-121.html


Or if you search Bosch 4 bar sensor, there are dozens of listings from VW type applications, although mostly diesels, but commonly re-used elsewhere.
Again a bolt in design and many of them also incorporate an air temp sensor.
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