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Old 18-11-2012, 09:04 PM
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Default Serious question,,, how hard is it to learn car mapping ?

I know people use the "you will uncover dangers" blah blah a blah

I have a apexi power fc and considering buying a datalogit and maybe giving mapping a go, I already have a innovate wide and sensor so thinking,,,, could it be relative easy ?

Also if I'm honest i do doubt trusting people as you don't get warranty ect and I have seen crap happen with mapping so its why I'm asking could I give it a go perhaps ?
Old 18-11-2012, 09:16 PM
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It's very easy to understand the principles behind structuring an engine mapping exercise, it takes years to get familiar with engine behaviour. By all means have a crack, but I wouldnt expect much from your first attempt!
Old 18-11-2012, 09:27 PM
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top end power stuff is fairly straightforward (although knowing how far to push is key!) but transient fuelling to make a car drive nicely is the hardest bit
Old 18-11-2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bigchez
top end power stuff is fairly straightforward (although knowing how far to push is key!) but transient fuelling to make a car drive nicely is the hardest bit
Exactly, unfortunately there are a lot of reputable tuners out there who still don't seem to understand that.

I have a friend who has a very good understanding of the subject and its quite shocking the amount of other peoples work he has to rectify, and I'm not talking budget builds either, seeing it with my own eyes is shocking but also very interesting as you get to see how even the simplest of changes make a massive difference to a cars driveability, its made to look very easy by someone who understands how a engine works more than how to make it make big numbers, anyone can do that.
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Pfc is quite easy ginge I have data Logit if you want to use it
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Jay when the Subaru is on the road I might take you up on that if you don't mind

I doubt I can do. Great job but tbh it's just cause a lot of work has already been added over the years so not even sure if the car would start ect with all the things changed

Not sure i would even have a clue but I'm sure I can catch up if I learn
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I'd love to learn to map my car, anyone know the best way to learn and where I could read about it?
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Originally Posted by Ginge !
Jay when the Subaru is on the road I might take you up on that if you don't mind

I doubt I can do. Great job but tbh it's just cause a lot of work has already been added over the years so not even sure if the car would start ect with all the things changed

Not sure i would even have a clue but I'm sure I can catch up if I learn

GInge no probs I'll help you do it or at least give you better understanding of it
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Give my friends company a go...

http://www.emacademy.co.uk/

The introduction to engine mapping course sounds like the sort of thing you need
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A chap called norubnodub on here went on a course after I recommended it

https://passionford.com/forum/genera...recommend.html
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Bit late but I would highly recommend the EMA course if you want to get into mapping. It gave me the know how to start playing with the maps on the rally cars instead of calling someone every time.

The best way to learn is by doing. The EMA course covers the basics of setting a ECU up and how it functions with all the actuators and then how to carry out simple calibrations.

Basically it gives you the confidence to start playing with mapping and gain some knowledge.
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I think mapping cars is very interesting.I wouldnt mind learning how to do it myself.
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me and a mate a currently building a basic zvh turbo for his car we gonna fit a basic ecu and have a crack at mapping it just take it nice steady as it something we both really want to try!
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