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Old 13-11-2012, 10:06 PM
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Default Which boost controller?

I'm looking at buying an electronic boost controller but am unsure which to buy. I need something I can set up to peak 2bar and then drop and hold 1.8

What controllers are you using?

Any help much appreciated
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The turbo smart ones are very good we have a load on our web shop

http://www.shop.motorsport-developme...lers-284-c.asp

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I would recommend the Apexi AVC-R, I've got one installed in my Escort and it's quite easy to use and has great control over the boost. You can set it to have different boost levels according to the revs.
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gizzmo one if u are after a simple to use one
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
The turbo smart ones are very good we have a load on our web shop

http://www.shop.motorsport-developme...lers-284-c.asp
Is there an advantage for using a Turbosmart 3 port over the standard Amalvalve setup?

And in what area are these aftermarket systems a significant improvement over the use of an amalvalve?

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Originally Posted by YBJ
Is there an advantage for using a Turbosmart 3 port over the standard Amalvalve setup?

And in what area are these aftermarket systems a significant improvement over the use of an amalvalve?
Accuracy/consistency at delivering a preset boost pressure. When I was running an Amal valve the boost used to be very inconsistent and the boost would sometimes be upto .3 bar down on what it should be. I would then change gear and it would boost fine which used to do my bloody head in! I've since removed the Amal valve and replaced it with an adjustable boost valve but that's soon to be replaced with one of the above controllers.

I've heard a lot of people saying the apexi avc-r is top dog but they're meant to be a pain in the arse to set up.
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Originally Posted by Borry
I would recommend the Apexi AVC-R, I've got one installed in my Escort and it's quite easy to use and has great control over the boost. You can set it to have different boost levels according to the revs.


I got to agree, the apexi are one of the best out there, and i have one for sale...
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Originally Posted by BIL N KEL
I've heard a lot of people saying the apexi avc-r is top dog but they're meant to be a pain in the arse to set up.
I don't think they're too bad to set up, you'd need someone else with you to adjust it while you're driving and to check your AFR and listen for det.
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Gizzmo are good, but no control over boost vs speed, something the turbosmart has.
I'm sure the apexi is good, but my money would be on the turbosmart if i could afford one.
I do run a gizzmo ms ibc cracking unit and easy to setup.
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Turbo smart is use... No drama.
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Originally Posted by xr2wishy
Gizzmo are good, but no control over boost vs speed, something the turbosmart has.
I'm sure the apexi is good, but my money would be on the turbosmart if i could afford one.
I do run a gizzmo ms ibc cracking unit and easy to setup.
Can it be set to peak then drop and hold? I see there are diffident model gizzmo available ranging from £150-250 which still makes the expensive one half the price of a avc-r
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I like my AVC-R, my profec B spec 2 was good, too
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Got a Gizzmo, they're not bad.
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had a profec spec b didnt like it much as it didnt give me the boost spike in the midrange.
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I have a as new turbosmart e boost 2 for sale, im in lowestoft and work in GY not sure how close you are in Norfolk.

PM if interested,
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Originally Posted by YBJ
Is there an advantage for using a Turbosmart 3 port over the standard Amalvalve setup?

And in what area are these aftermarket systems a significant improvement over the use of an amalvalve?
This is something I'd also like to know. Can this valve be controlled by the standard cossie ecu or does it need a separate boost controller like the E-boost street or E-boost 2?

And if it can be controlled by the standard cossie ecu, what kind of options does it give? Control between 2 boost levels like the standard amalvalve? And can you set the boost levels yourself, without doing stuff like jetting an amalvalve?
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The amal valve is just a crude solenoid anyway.

Cant think of that many controllers that allow you to alter boost vs rpm. Although if you're running 2 bar mid range, I really dont see why you'd want less at the top ?

Keep it up the full whack the entire way !
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Maybe you'd want less boost at higher revs to increase the life of the turbo?

Anyway, what I like about the amalvalve is the fact that the ecu can lower the boost level if needed (when the ACTs are high for instance). As far as I know the amalvalve is the only boost control that makes this possible. Or are there other possibilities to do so?
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Originally Posted by Marc sierra
Maybe you'd want less boost at higher revs to increase the life of the turbo?

Anyway, what I like about the amalvalve is the fact that the ecu can lower the boost level if needed (when the ACTs are high for instance). As far as I know the amalvalve is the only boost control that makes this possible. Or are there other possibilities to do so?
Amal valve is simply a valve. Nothing more, nothing less.

How any valve is controlled is what is most important. But obviously a quality valve offers better control
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Of course. The amalvalve is nothing special, it's just the fact a Weber cossie ecu can control it directly. Are there any other controllers that can interact with the standard ecu?
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Most aftermarket EBC's are standalone, so will have limited integration with the engine ecu. And in many ways this is a bad thing

But they are generally easy to use, and offer excellent levels of boost control that anyone can achieve without having to access the ecu.

but ultimately an ecu controlled setup does offer the most safety options, as well as flexibility as to what you do with boost, and when ( providing it's a decent ecu )
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