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Old 18-10-2012 | 09:46 PM
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Default Christ these focus ST turbos have gone cheap!!!

Just been looking on the trader and some nice examples out there round the £5k mark,I honestly had no idea they'd got this cheap now.
I remember a load of boys where I worked buying them on a voucher for about £15-16k for an st-2.
They always seemed a really good motor,the only complaints the lads had were their a bit heavy on juice but that seems a small price to pay for what your getting.
Am I missing something or just a genuine bargain?
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Originally Posted by vaughant
Just been looking on the trader and some nice examples out there round the £5k mark,I honestly had no idea they'd got this cheap now.
I remember a load of boys where I worked buying them on a voucher for about £15-16k for an st-2.
They always seemed a really good motor,the only complaints the lads had were their a bit heavy on juice but that seems a small price to pay for what your getting.
Am I missing something or just a genuine bargain?
genuine barging mate brilliant cars do everything so well
Old 18-10-2012 | 09:49 PM
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mates just given 6500 for a red 06 plate with reasonable miles are a main dealers
but 2 years ago a 55 plate red un was knocking about here and they guy took 5k!! and that was after months of being for sale on busy roads and drivign about so i think prices have stagnated a bit myself and they should be cheaper, theres not much between an 05 and an 07 but teh later cars had some good revisions

i'd like to find a cheap one with a blown up engine as i have a 6-7k engine and everything still attached in my shed

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Originally Posted by 1.9 xr2 on 40's
mates just given 6500 for a red 06 plate with reasonable miles are a main dealers
but 2 years ago a 55 plate red un was knocking about here and they guy took 5k!! and that was after months of being for sale on busy roads and drivign about so i think prices have stagnated a bit myself and they should be cheaper, theres not much between an 05 and an 07 but teh later cars had some good revisions

i'd like to find a cheap one with a blown up engine as i have a 6-7k engine and everything still attached in my shed
whats the motor had done

oh and buy a st3 the 1 and 2's dont seem as nice to be in
Old 18-10-2012 | 10:37 PM
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I was thinking they looked good value too. My missus is in need of a new motor, she really likes my RS500 so looked for Black ST's and was surprised how cheap they were.

What's extra on an ST3 over an ST2?
Old 18-10-2012 | 10:44 PM
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leather heated seats heatedfront rear screens mainly but there so much more comfy
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Just a modern xr3
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Had an 07 st2 recently with 112k on it. Shit you not it drove like a new car.

Spent 12 hours detailing it outside too, sold for 7.5k

I think st2 is good value. I don't like the leather too much, and electric seats only matter when you're adjusting em. Mine ticked ALL the boxes, looked awesome in black with grey&red interior too.
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leather heated seats heatedfront rear screens mainly but there so much more comfy
Heated screens on an st2 too the 4 leather seats and a better std stereo was the main difference so hardly any difference really

And the leather 8 way seats are heavier so the car is slower lol

Whilst some are coming down quite a bit, other well spec'd and good condition cars are really holding their value. I could get more today for my orange st2 with sat nav, dual climate, park sensors etc than I paid for it exactly a year ago.

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Originally Posted by Jay,
whats the motor had done

oh and buy a st3 the 1 and 2's dont seem as nice to be in
nothing, i want to find something to put it in but everything is soo fookin small
Old 19-10-2012 | 05:06 AM
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I had one as a courtesy car back in 06 while the Evo had some work done, couldn't believe how much fuel it used even made my Evo seem economical!
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Originally Posted by RS_matt
Just a modern xr3

ill think youll find numb nutts there a xr5

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My went for £5425 a few months ago trade in which to be fair I wouldn't of got much more private sale.

Had it 2 years and cost me £11,000

Think it's the cost of fuel and tax that's hit the value of them.
Old 19-10-2012 | 09:15 AM
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A mate of mine bought a silver st3 with 65000 miles on it for 5k 8 months ago he has since tuned it to msd spec 310hp conversion and I must say after driving it on the road and down the strip at santapod it's and awesome car / setup!

Ran a 13.7 1/4mile @104 mph

But I destroyed the gearbox on the 3rd run!!

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I think it's stereotypical of performance cars.

Like you say they are thirsty and expensive to run, thus have to be cheap to buy, as the people who buy these cars when new move onto the newer models, therefore leaving a small market for the old models.

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To add its also done a drive shaft map sensor and the turbo is in it way out but it does get hammered ever time it's used!
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i think they are stunning motors
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Originally Posted by Kam B
i think they are stunning motors
They certainly are. Loved mine and was my first turbo motor. Every time I drove it it made me smile.
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Pre facelift ones are a real bargain! Facelifts are still holding out but they'll tumble as well soon. For 5-6k + £1.5k for 300bhp, can't really do much better than that other than having an Evo 5-6 for that money!
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Originally Posted by QplateRST!
A mate of mine bought a silver st3 with 65000 miles on it for 5k 8 months ago he has since tuned it to msd spec 310hp conversion and I must say after driving it on the road and down the strip at santapod it's and awesome car / setup!

Ran a 13.7 1/4mile @104 mph

But I destroyed the gearbox on the 3rd run!!


ive got spares of everything

mines going up to stu once ive sorted the final spec for my spare engine
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Stu at MSD jay?
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Yes mate it seems that he has the only software that can actually adjust the me9 ecu with out tyhe car jumping into limpmode when it feels like it plus the mods im going for if i went elsewhere id need to chand maff ect where stu's stuff still runs the st sensors ect and the biggest bonus i aint been smashed in blackpool for years lol so roll on the hangover
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Give us a bell or txt and ill pop up for a brew while the cars getting mapped.

Sounds all good mate.
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will do mate but pm or send me a text asap as my iphone shat itself again and lost all my contacts
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So generally all good and as martysmartie says just a victim of the general thirsty cars/high tax/insurance.
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I'm still averaging over 30mpg after a year (but I do 80 miles a day commuting on roads when I can't really go over 60mph with all the lorries) and my insurance is sub £400 so not that high for running costs really. Tax is £270 so only £50 more than my old Puma.

Drove over to my mums yesterday with my little'un in the car so didn't go mad - you'd not really know it was a yob if you drive it "normally" as it's comfy and quiet. But give it some beans and it rewards you with an amazing engine / exhaust note and smiles guaranteed.

A great all round car IMO.
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There really good cars... And a very lot of cash for the cash tbh.


Also jay ill get smashed round Blackpool with ya...
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How much power you going for then Jay?
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Originally Posted by Dal_
I'm still averaging over 30mpg after a year (but I do 80 miles a day commuting on roads when I can't really go over 60mph with all the lorries) and my insurance is sub £400 so not that high for running costs really. Tax is £270 so only £50 more than my old Puma.

Drove over to my mums yesterday with my little'un in the car so didn't go mad - you'd not really know it was a yob if you drive it "normally" as it's comfy and quiet. But give it some beans and it rewards you with an amazing engine / exhaust note and smiles guaranteed.

A great all round car IMO.

Average 30mpg?
That's very good,obv that drops significantly under a good booting but it's nice to know.
Mine wouldn't be an everyday car as I'm offshore now but I will occassionally be driving up to Scotland from Wales so its good to know their not horrific on a run.
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Absolute bargaings the ST's,I prefer the pre faclifts too.
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On a run I've had 37+mpg.

Around town if traffic is relatively light 26mpg.

Moderate traffic 23mpg

Horrendous traffic 19mpg

And it is out roughly 5% I reckon.
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Cant fault the ST3 and a hell of a lot of car for not much money and can be driven everyday too, know at least 8 people really well that have these and all say best car choice they made, its only the anal retentive folk who only buy a car by its badge that knock these cars
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Originally Posted by Jay,
my iphone shat itself again and lost all my contacts
Thank God for that, I won't be getting any more abusive text messages
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Originally Posted by Jay,
do everything so well
Bar fuel economy !
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Originally Posted by RS_matt
There really good cars... And a very lot of cash for the cash tbh.


Also jay ill get smashed round Blackpool with ya...
we can get carlos and stu and fuckin wreck the place

Originally Posted by pani_k
How much power you going for then Jay?
400 ish b ud

Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Absolute bargaings the ST's,I prefer the pre faclifts too.

the prefacelifts are the way forward



Originally Posted by 1-PD
Cant fault the ST3 and a hell of a lot of car for not much money and can be driven everyday too, know at least 8 people really well that have these and all say best car choice they made, its only the anal retentive folk who only buy a car by its badge that knock these cars
tbh its normally people that havnt driven them but i cant see atm the that rs is worth 12k-15k more and worth it
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There a cracking car.
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Originally Posted by Mr S1
Bar fuel economy !
mate i dont see the issue i get 14-19 playing around town and average 26 and then 32-36 on a run ! i dont call that thirsty shit you want to own a skyline or a evo or my old v12 series 1 jag on carbs it would do 6 to the gallon around town and if you were gentle with it 10-12 on a run
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the ST3 is what the train driver should have bought instead of another sierra
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Originally Posted by Nath
Thank God for that, I won't be getting any more abusive text messages
you fuckin love them send your number over fuck nutts
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Originally Posted by 1-PD
the ST3 is what the train driver should have bought instead of another sierra
well i did try mate


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