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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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Unhappy help. blown engine

I have an 06 titanium diesel 136 estate.
driving at 80 on the motorway it dropped power, i pulled on to the hard shoulder and loads of smoke came out of the engine. Police Fire and highways agency. Very exiting. after the smoke there was no oil or coolant left.

I took it to my garage they say it has no compression and the car doesnt start.
The car cost about £4k six months ago

My garage says it doesn't fix engines

The car is in Liverpool

Any constructive advice would be great as i am at a loss as to what to do now.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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a claim sounhds the best bet
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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take it to another garage, any garage that doesnt rebuild engines is a useless garage in my opinion, rebuilding engines is just part of being a mechanic if you ask me
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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burn it somewhere claim on the insurance..

seriously, its gonna cost you probably a 4 figure sum for a new engine if its chucked a rod, or half of that if its the head gasket, for the same price you could probably source another engine, but then it will probably cost you the same price again to have it fitted, oh and then youve got the joys of it being a bastard due to the injector/pump issues they have once theyve been pissed around with, either way you look at it its going to be money and hassle, or both.. just claim on your insurance if you can.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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What engine is it 2ltr diesel?
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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yes its a 2 litre diesel. 136 bhp.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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it is fully comp indsurance
as it blew on the motorway wont the police and the fire brigade have a record of it that any insurance investigator would find?
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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quite possibly a incident report with the one of those and or the highways agency, plus then theres this post!
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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I've never known any insurance pay out for a mechanical failure.

Ask over on talkford.com, as there's quite a few people who have had to swap engines in Mondeo TDCis. It needn't cost as much as has been mentionned, but it's not going to be cheap.

One angle to take is that you go back to the garage you bought it from (presuming it wasn't a private sale) and waggle the Sale of Goods Act under their noses and see what they say.

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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
I've never known any insurance pay out for a mechanical failure.

Ask over on talkford.com, as there's quite a few people who have had to swap engines in Mondeo TDCis. It needn't cost as much as has been mentionned, but it's not going to be cheap.

One angle to take is that you go back to the garage you bought it from (presuming it wasn't a private sale) and waggle the Sale of Goods Act under their noses and see what they say.
If its fully com then can claim for most things eg if the wiring makes a fire its paid
go to a breaker hard to fine but you might find the engine in a trasit or use my saff make it a cossie mondeo conversion £2.5k and car worth around £9k+
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RS500/364
If its fully com then can claim for most things eg if the wiring makes a fire its paid
go to a breaker hard to fine but you might find the engine in a trasit or use my saff make it a cossie mondeo conversion £2.5k and car worth around £9k+
Yeah, fire is covered obviously. But mechanical failures aren't.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:48 AM
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Friend is claiming for the alternator melting battery
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Yeah, fire is covered obviously. But mechanical failures aren't.
some policys do, i worked on a jag s type lately which was overheating, turned out the head was cracked and the insurence took over and sorted it.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 09:54 AM
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2nd hand engine with a guarantee and get a good garage to fit it for you do not use one of the dodgy engine centres you will find on ebay.
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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my wifes 2.0 tdci mondeo chucked a rod in april, I paid 250 quid for an engine and swopped the short nose injectors for log ones (I bought a pre facelift engine 01-03 the car is a 53 plate) and paid 130 quid to have the injectors fitted and coded, 80 quid on oil filter gaskets etc the car runs better than it ever has done in our ownership now!
changing the engine was a ballache tho!
proves it can be fixed on the cheap..

steve

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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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ive found two engines about £1K with 40k on the clock.
anyone know of a good place to fit them in or near liverpool
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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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There is a reason why you have lost oil/water. This could be a symptom of a snapped rod or something related to the failure. Or it could have been the catalyst towards the failure. That would need investigating.

We're in Preston and would charge roughly in the region of £650 to swap a Mondeo engine including fluids so you can use that as a guide. There is usually other things that need replacement once you start stripping though.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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thanks for that.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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My Son bought a Megane Tdci that had similar symptoms, turbo failed, engine overran, everything had over heated.
We swopped the engine, but also found some of the missing oil in the intercooler, some more of it in the exhaust and the water expansion tank was blown up like a balloon.

Make sure whoever swops engines cleans out the intercooler.
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Old Jul 18, 2011 | 08:00 AM
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just leave it out with the bonnet up, some scouser will have nicked the engine in no time haha.
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