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Old 22-03-2011, 11:16 PM
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By using old engine oil and heating them up red/white hot will make them stronger but more britlle apparently? sounds stupid to me
Old 22-03-2011, 11:20 PM
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I wouldnt personally be attempting pikey heat treatments on conrods TBH

De-seaming them and then getting them shot peened can improve their performance though.

But TBH with most engines now having 300 quid chinese steel sets available its not worth doing, my corsa has rods that are proven to be improvable by the techniques I have just mentioned but I just chucked some cheap steal ones in instead of bothering as they work even better (although still arent arrow sort of quality of course!)
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Originally Posted by crumpet
By using old engine oil and heating them up red/white hot will make them stronger but more britlle apparently? sounds stupid to me

What engine and have you ever broke a conrod ?


I can only imagine most such DIY attempts fucking them right up.
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i havent broke a rod (in all my years of too much boost+fuel+revs) YET and dont want to lol some lad was talking to me about it on facebooke
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internet mechanics are bad....but now facebook metallurgists !! lol
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I've actually snapped a rod before, only once mind... Buutttt it was thrashing a cammed 1600 cvh mk2 fiesta down the A19 with a 1.0 box on it
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load of bullshit.... heat treatement can only be done by professionals, not by amateurs.

you wouldnt even know what material u got so how are u trying to figure out what treatement it needs ? u dont know, simple as.
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Pmsl id never do it, sounds fucking stupid to me as your making the rod red hot(making it weaker just by that) then putting it in oil to try and make it harder, wouldnt it just crack when put in the oil anyway?
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yeah it does work by that theory.. but then you have to anneal it to make it harder .. heat treatment just alligns the particles .... annealing or tempering is the key to it working correctly .. and thats the hard part .. the right ammount of heat for the right ammount of time ..
not really a diy job...
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Although it might work if you drill holes in it first, to allow the oil more access to the material, plus it will lighten them
Old 23-03-2011, 09:27 AM
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tell you what, that sounds as good as this old nugget:
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267

DIY, not the greatest idea for amateurs.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Although it might work if you drill holes in it first, to allow the oil more access to the material, plus it will lighten them

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thats gotta be a fookin wind up
Old 23-03-2011, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by turbocabessex
thats gotta be a fookin wind up
the internet is as real as it gets.
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Originally Posted by turbocabessex
thats gotta be a fookin wind up
Well what would stevie know? He's only built a granada that does nearly 200mph after all

Here he is, sharing his top secret tips with you and you mock him for it

I dont know why you bother giving out such great advice stevie, its wasted on these clowns!
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Originally Posted by Chip
Well what would stevie know? He's only built a granada that does nearly 200mph after all

Here he is, sharing his top secret tips with you and you mock him for it

I dont know why you bother giving out such great advice stevie, its wasted on these clowns!
not the fuckin conrods numbnuts that post on the audi forum
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I was joking by the way!

DONT drill holes in your fucking rods for god's sake
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lol i wouldnt do that either anyway, an i can never tell with you if your being serious or not lol
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I wouldnt normally joke on a technical thread, but I thought in this instance it was obvious stevie was messing about.


Serious answers just to avoid any confusion:

Heating and immersing in oil CAN help, but it needs to be carefully controlled I wouldnt try it at home

Dressing the seams back carefully and smoothing the rod finish over and then shot peaning can help and is DIY-able

Drilling holes in them to lighten them isnt a good idea
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ok....what about drilling holes in the piston ? Reduces weight and lowers the compression ratio for more boost
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I think someone has been drilling holes in your head
Old 23-03-2011, 11:41 AM
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hey, if you read it on the internet, it's fact !!


I was lost until I realised this !!!


and lets face it, if people are dumb enough to believe it....at least take a video of the results for youtube
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You're just an over grown mischeavious lepricorn at heart arent you mate?
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LOL at this whole thread
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