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Old Jan 15, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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if you put compression struts on a sierra how do you compensate for lack of anti roll bar?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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I prefer compression struts to an anti-roll bar, solid drive and sharp on track. But throw coilovers into the mix and its a pretty bumpy ride
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Originally Posted by YOREVOL
if you put compression struts on a sierra how do you compensate for lack of anti roll bar?

you dont compensate for not having an important part of your suspension without compromising what you have left !
We supply a Complete GpA Front Anti-roll bar kit although i dont recommend this solely for road use .




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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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Are those TCA's comp brake items? Did the drop link lug come welded on, or do you have to add that yourself to your TCA's?
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We add the tube below the TCA , 50mm long and with a bore of @10mm to allow a long bolt to pick up the Drop link .
Were developing a complete new system that does away with all of the compbrake parts tho with double adjustable in situ Comp strut and Track arm and fully adjustable Rose jointed bottom pin to stop the TCA running uphill like in the 1st pic .
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Would you mod mine if I sent them to you please? Or could you sell me the bits to weld on? I have a full group A arb for my Escos, just never fitted it!
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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We add the tube below the TCA , 50mm long and with a bore of @10mm to allow a long bolt to pick up the Drop link .
Were developing a complete new system that does away with all of the compbrake parts tho with double adjustable in situ Comp strut and Track arm and fully adjustable Rose jointed bottom pin to stop the TCA running uphill like in the 1st pic .

hi will you need to lower track rod end by the same amount to avoid bumpsteer
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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hi will you need to lower track rod end by the same amount to avoid bumpsteer
Indeed , if you look at my pics ive done that by insering a stainless steel bush into the steering pin on the hub and spacing the bolt and rose joint down by the same amount .
Our new kit will allow the Hub pin height to be moved upto an inch making 3 dr hubs un-neccessary .

Will we use the Centres of LAG castors as the steel tube to weld under the TCA ,you can probably get the bit of tube from BnQ mate !
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How long till the kits done Tony me old mucker?

just seen this pic on Johnny b's auto sport thread.. you going to be getting a TCA done like this?

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Originally Posted by Touring Car Spares
Indeed , if you look at my pics ive done that by insering a stainless steel bush into the steering pin on the hub and spacing the bolt and rose joint down by the same amount .
Our new kit will allow the Hub pin height to be moved upto an inch making 3 dr hubs un-neccessary .

Will we use the Centres of LAG castors as the steel tube to weld under the TCA ,you can probably get the bit of tube from BnQ mate !
what is that supposed to mean
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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my german cossie came with the eyes for the compresssion strut welded onto the bottom of the tca and retained the arb. not the best way of doing it compared to a proper bladed arb and improved geometry etc, but cheap and effective.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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How long till the kits done Tony me old mucker?

just seen this pic on Johnny b's auto sport thread.. you going to be getting a TCA done like this?

i already make those



but with my upright you dont have to change your arb or tcas or alter trackrod end position to end up with 3 dr geometry ,plus because they are alloy as opposed to cast steel you lose unsprung weight which is a big bonus

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how much are those TCA's Mark?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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ive often wondered this! i just assumed the firmer coilovers compensate with a bladed anti roll bar on the front.

does it actually make that much difference though?
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So how do you fit your compression struts to them then? I've got compbrake ones, I think
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
So how do you fit your compression struts to them then? I've got compbrake ones, I think
hi its a different type of compstrut to fit these but the benefit is you can change the outer bearing were as in the standard modded one you cant change the ball joint plus these are lighter which again helps unspung weight plus they come with fitment for bladed arb
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More moe y being spent on a car that i've not used for se wrap years then me thinks
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
plus because they are alloy as opposed to cast steel you lose unsprung weight which is a big bonus
how much unsprung weight do you lose, considering it's hung off a pivot in a fairly horizontal plane? more than the sprung weight that you lose?
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how much unsprung weight do you lose, considering it's hung off a pivot in a fairly horizontal plane? more than the sprung weight that you lose?
hi the weight you lose in the difference between the steel one and the alloy one ,and uprights are vertical not horizontal ,and i dont know what you mean ,(more than the sprung weight that you lose ) you dont lose any sprung weight ,anything that dosent go up and down with the suspension is unsprung weight

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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
what is that supposed to mean
Which bit Mark ?

Those CNC TCA's look nice ,are you already making those ?

Our ones will only be humble Steel versions .
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Originally Posted by Touring Car Spares
Which bit Mark ?

Those CNC TCA's look nice ,are you already making those ?

Our ones will only be humble Steel versions .
the bit were you said i could get my tube from b&q ,yes am already making them ,with cradles ,uprights ,steel front cross members ,bladed arb etc
steel is good nothing wrong with that

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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
hi the weight you lose in the difference between the steel one and the alloy one ,and uprights are vertical not horizontal ,and i dont know what you mean ,(more than the sprung weight that you lose ) you dont lose any sprung weight ,anything that dosent go up and down with the suspension is unsprung weight

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i was talking about the alloy tca, not the alloy hub
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
i was talking about the alloy tca, not the alloy hub
oh sorry you quoted me talking about alloy upright ,still losing weight off anywere is a good thing ,plus alloy tcas over standard ajustables ones ,means you can change outer bearings and they come with provision for bladed arb .stil ldont know what you meant in the last part
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
the bit were you said i could get my tube from b&q ,yes am already making them ,with cradles ,uprights ,steel front cross members ,bladed arb etc
steel is good nothing wrong with that

thanks mark


Awsome stuff

I think my Caltex car needs to be updated with all this new stuff your doing Mark
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Awsome stuff

I think my Caltex car needs to be updated with all this new stuff your doing Mark

hi paul i think you might be right mate lol

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tony wasn't saying to you mark about the tube from b&q
itwas meant for the guy looking for the tube to weld onto his arms to fit the bladed roll bar
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Yup ,what he said ,lol
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Yup ,what he said ,lol

sorry tony ,that was me jumping on the band wagon ,i thought what have i done now lol

thanks mark
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
oh sorry you quoted me talking about alloy upright ,still losing weight off anywere is a good thing ,plus alloy tcas over standard ajustables ones ,means you can change outer bearings and they come with provision for bladed arb .stil ldont know what you meant in the last part
thanks mark
i just meant that as the tca is hung one end from the crossmember which acts as sprung weight, the other end on the upright is unsprung.
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
i just meant that as the tca is hung one end from the crossmember which acts as sprung weight, the other end on the upright is unsprung.

yes see were your coming from ,good point, out of the 2 though i personaly would have the alloy one

thanks mark
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Originally Posted by Touring Car Spares
We add the tube below the TCA , 50mm long and with a bore of @10mm to allow a long bolt to pick up the Drop link .
Were developing a complete new system that does away with all of the compbrake parts tho with double adjustable in situ Comp strut and Track arm and fully adjustable Rose jointed bottom pin to stop the TCA running uphill like in the 1st pic .
How is it coming along? prices?
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All will be revealed soon , patience my boy .
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
i already make those



but with my upright you dont have to change your arb or tcas or alter trackrod end position to end up with 3 dr geometry ,plus because they are alloy as opposed to cast steel you lose unsprung weight which is a big bonus

thanks mark
Are those the Mk2 Escort TCA's ?
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