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Old 29-09-2010, 08:28 PM
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Do any of you 'anti-holiday-in-term-time' people actually teach your kids yourself, or do you think that's the school's job?

Not meant as an argumentative point (I know a teacher who doesn't read with her kids because the school does). I just can't help thinking what you do with your kids differs to what we do, as I genuinely can't see how a handful of days off can possibly be considered detrimental to the child's development.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Do any of you 'anti-holiday-in-term-time' people actually teach your kids yourself, or do you think that's the school's job?

I don't necessarily teach. I do what parents should do and assist and guide where possible.

Number 1 does quite "technical" writing now for an 11 year old and if i can help him with new words etc then so be it.

Number 2 has just started school and is LOVING it. He is like a sponge. Today i got a big surprise to learn that the letter "b" isn't written like i was taught! We used to do the down stroke then back upwards and a clockwise loop. Now they are being taught to do the downstroke and continue into an anti clockwise loop to finish.

Teaching at home is all very well but watch and get it right!
Old 29-09-2010, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4

My Oldest (4 years old) has not missed one day of school and loves it (for the time being lol) she has come in to me and the wife and said

"my tummy hurts"

I say "what enough to stop you going to school"

She says

"of course not Daddy"

If i was to say from day 1

"OH NO we better not send you to school"

and she has a day off and realises what fun it is being lazy and sitting infront of the telly all day maybe she might want to get sick more often

If you catch my drift.

Although saying someones parenting is not right (only in my opinion of course) normally pisses people off that think it is right. as eveyone thinks they know best with their kids. Me included!
mine hasn't missed a day of school either since he started (other than the half day when he had to go to the hospital for his eye appointment)

but he's only been going for 14 days so plenty more to come

the rest of it i do agree with though, if only for the reason that we'd have to take a day off if he didn't go to school
Old 29-09-2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Do any of you 'anti-holiday-in-term-time' people actually teach your kids yourself, or do you think that's the school's job?

Not meant as an argumentative point (I know a teacher who doesn't read with her kids because the school does). I just can't help thinking what you do with your kids differs to what we do, as I genuinely can't see how a handful of days off can possibly be considered detrimental to the child's development.
junior gets homework which we have to supervise him as he does it, so that's one

then he gets a book to read every week and, as he's only 4, we have to read it to him and he looks at the pictures and follows the story, after which, we, as parents, have to write up a short summary of what he felt the book was about, if he enjoyed it, etc
Old 29-09-2010, 09:19 PM
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wow turned into a bitching contest

i see chips point, but as having two kids one 5 an one 13 months we are tight for cash so no choice but to go away in term time. stephen i think they are bit out of order an i will be a waiting my fine when we go lmao but in all fairness i dont see how they can charge you, as you told them an your daughter took the work she'd be missing with her. try contacting them but dont be snotty generally explain that she never missed anything. i doubt the school will know as its probably come direct from the governors even have a word with the head of the school see what there advice is

good luck
Old 29-09-2010, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
junior gets homework which we have to supervise him as he does it, so that's one

then he gets a book to read every week and, as he's only 4, we have to read it to him and he looks at the pictures and follows the story, after which, we, as parents, have to write up a short summary of what he felt the book was about, if he enjoyed it, etc
i 2nd this bit of a bastard to when she loses her reading diary
Old 29-09-2010, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Do any of you 'anti-holiday-in-term-time' people actually teach your kids yourself, or do you think that's the school's job?
Yes I do, Megan absolutely loves learning, she prefers word games and counting games and stuff like that to most kiddies games, even on her DS she prefers the educational stuff.

Lets just hope though that StephenC leaves the teaching of his kids to lala and tinky winky etc, rather than muscle in and teach them a crock of shite himself thinking he's being accurate when he isnt


Not meant as an argumentative point (I know a teacher who doesn't read with her kids because the school does). I just can't help thinking what you do with your kids differs to what we do, as I genuinely can't see how a handful of days off can possibly be considered detrimental to the child's development.
Depends on the age, for megan at the moment it wouldnt matter at all, school is just about socialising and playing when you are five, in half a dozen years time though it could potentially have more of an impact, especially if its two weeks at a time every year like some people do, and generally (but not always) their kids tend to feel more like "well mummy and daddy said it didnt matter to miss a couple of weeks, so if I skive the odd day it wont matter"
After all kids of a young age learn FAR more from copying and imitating than from any other means, and your setting a pretty shit example about the importance of school to just rip them out of it for a week or two.
Maybe you manage to explain to your kids that its only those two weeks that are totally worthless and the other 37 weeks of term time actually count, or maybe you just think you do, hard to say really!
Old 29-09-2010, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Today i got a big surprise to learn that the letter "b" isn't written like i was taught! We used to do the down stroke then back upwards and a clockwise loop. Now they are being taught to do the downstroke and continue into an anti clockwise loop to finish.
LOL, thats genius, I still do it the old less efficient way, mind you my writing is fucking terrible anyway as I learnt to type when I was 7 and have barely used hand writing since relatively speaking, I find it really tedious as its so much slower, can probably type 100 words a minute but probably only write about 30, lol
Old 29-09-2010, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
LOL, thats genius, I still do it the old less efficient way, mind you my writing is fucking terrible anyway as I learnt to type when I was 7 and have barely used hand writing since relatively speaking, I find it really tedious as its so much slower, can probably type 100 words a minute but probably only write about 30, lol

I find writing very strange now as in adult life you barely need to do it!

I need to check my sons book and see if d is done the same way but mirrored. I'd expect so but...

I prefer when they have the "tail" at the bottom!

I guess i'll check p also
Old 29-09-2010, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
I find writing very strange now as in adult life you barely need to do it!

I need to check my sons book and see if d is done the same way but mirrored. I'd expect so but...

I prefer when they have the "tail" at the bottom!

I guess i'll check p also


Proper fucking rock and roll lifestyle you lead
Old 29-09-2010, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Proper fucking rock and roll lifestyle you lead

It's off the scale here mate. Living the dream!

Having kids early means i get my midlife back and fuck i'm going to enjoy it!
Old 29-09-2010, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip


Indeed, annoy most but only amuse some, as the others lack the required education to notice the subtle bits (or merely have better things to do )
seriously who do you think you are??? What an obnoxious fucking statement to come out with. I lost any kind of credability for you after seeing your shadrack garage thread, and bearing in mind your a self proclaimed scientist that makes it even more laughable!!

Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Mate, just accept that the context you used the word in was incorrect. I've been paid every day for last 13 years of my life to, among other things, spot mistakes like that. Nothing you have quoted backs up your argument in the slightest.
so does that mean your not paid anymore to do it? The sentence I wrote is a generalisation of my life and I used the word has to put a definite quantity on the past time that I was refering to as obviously there was a time where I couldnt read nor write. Chip chose for some reason to assume that as it was past tense I would have forgotten how to read? That sentence to me in no way implies such horse shit, unless I wanted to be an awkward self righteous prick in which case I would assume such a thing and contrive it to mean so in the vain attempt it would make me look good.
Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
A week with the family in a loving environment where they learn about, and experience, things they don't do during the normal week is by no means a bad thing, and to think it is, to me at least, seems a very strange view for a parent to have.
couldnt agree more, they sampled a foreign country and its inhabitents and we had the best holiday weve ever had together, they'll remember that for the rest of their lives, the PE lessons they missed I somehow doubt they will. The majority of academic work they missed at school was dealt with on holiday and the remainder as homework when they got back.
Old 29-09-2010, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StephenC
seriously who do you think you are??? What an obnoxious fucking statement to come out with. I lost any kind of credability for you after seeing your shadrack garage thread, and bearing in mind your a self proclaimed scientist that makes it even more laughable!!
Well its still standing just fine a couple of years later despite apparently the fact I was wrong that it would be, and I suspect it will probably outlive most of us
But if you read the thread you would realise I didnt actually build it anyway, so its not in anyway representative of what I would do myself.
Im far more a self proclaimed expert at winding idiots who take a bit of banter on the internet too seriously than I am a scientist even by the way, lol



Chip chose for some reason to assume that as it was past tense I would have forgotten how to read?
You used totally the wrong word in a sentance whilst talking about how educated you were, so I thought it would be a worth a giggle for wasting the time of day to see if you would massively over react like a total cock to a bit of banter about the irony of it. I must confess to underestimating the extent to which you would do so though

That sentence to me in no way implies such horse shit
Thats because a few pages later you STILL dont understand its bad english I guess.

unless I wanted to be an awkward self righteous prick in which case I would assume such a thing and contrive it to mean so in the vain attempt it would make me look good.
Or even if you were just having a laugh winding someone up cause its funny seeing them take it so seriously when to you its all just a big joke
Old 29-09-2010, 10:05 PM
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ZZZZZZZZZ CHIP

infact after reading ur last post im off to bed!
Old 29-09-2010, 10:06 PM
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Ahh Chip you make my day
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Originally Posted by Chip
Or even if you were just having a laugh winding someone up cause its funny seeing them take it so seriously when to you its all just a big joke
If you werent so much of an arrogant cunt I reckon there could be some truth in that but the fact you think your the all knowing high and mighty it clearly isnt.

Originally Posted by Chip
Thats because a few pages later you STILL dont understand its bad english I guess.
not at all, it just means that you chose to assume something, for a change.

Off to bed. Got nowt on at work tomorrow so I look forward to learning been taught the ways of the world by the holy chip maybe one day if I try hard enough I could become just as much an egotistical cunt as he is.
Old 29-09-2010, 10:09 PM
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Do not think missing a week would not make much of a difference for your kid,kid's, as the social interaction with new pepole would help them lot's in later life.
There is someone i went to school with, she was one of the smart one's at school and now she is a recluse
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Originally Posted by StephenC
If you werent so much of an arrogant cunt I reckon there could be some truth in that but the fact you think your the all knowing high and mighty it clearly isnt.
LOL @ you still not seeing through the act, its like when I referred to your kids as wretched, you were SO predictable, I deliberately picked a word that sounds insulting if you dont actually know what the various things are it can mean


not at all, it just means that you chose to assume something, for a change.
Ah, so are you saying you have now learnt that you were totally wrong for the last 3 pages whilst defending your total misuse of our dear mother tongue?


Off to bed. Got nowt on at work tomorrow so I look forward to learning been taught the ways of the world by the holy chip
Nothing holy about me mate, religion is for the weak, the stupid and the needy, im none of the above

maybe one day if I try hard enough I could become just as much an egotistical cunt as he is.
And LOL @ you still not getting it.
I just like things to be accurate whoever says them, if Im right i'll keep repeating it until the other person realises, if Im wrong I'll gracefully accept so. Like this thread earlier today for example:
https://passionford.com/forum/pictur...-good-one.html
Old 29-09-2010, 10:24 PM
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Alot of the kids at my youngest's school all have dads in the army. (Theres a local barracks).

One of the mums was telling me a couple of weeks back that they get a special exception for holidays as the dads are away for months at a time which I think is understandable but were saying how bollox it is that you cant take a 'normal' child out of school. After that she told me that there's some law etc that states that a child can have up to 10 days a year. So check it out!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by StephenC
so does that mean your not paid anymore to do it?
No, it means nothing of the sort.

Originally Posted by StephenC
The sentence I wrote is a generalisation of my life and I used the word has to put a definite quantity on the past time that I was refering to as obviously there was a time where I couldnt read nor write. Chip chose for some reason to assume that as it was past tense...
The sentence you wrote included the word 'been' when it should have said 'being'. Using 'been' does not infur any tense, it's just wrong, wrong like people using brought, not bought. No amount of Googling or arguing will make it right. Ever.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
The sentence you wrote included the word 'been' when it should have said 'being'. Using 'been' does not infur any tense, it's just wrong, wrong like people using brought, not bought. No amount of Googling or arguing will make it right. Ever.
Indeed, the floor their was obvious two people who fort about it
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Originally Posted by Chip
Indeed, the floor their was obvious two people who fort about it
Old 29-09-2010, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Indeed, the floor their was obvious two people who fort about it
Fort is maybe my second favourite on the mis-spelt/mis-used shit list after brought.

Aggggggggggghhhhhhhh
Old 30-09-2010, 12:02 AM
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This thread is becoming ridiculous.if were all being so clever about spelling,terminology etc why are we calling children "kids",I always thought kids were baby goats but hey ho.

Well done chip for only missing 5 days of school over x number of years,but be honest,when you were in junior school in June fucking about as everyones in holiday mode,can you REALLY remember what you were learning at that time?very little I should imagine.

We took our boy out of school on three occasions for two weeks at a time which we were allowed to do when he was 5,7 and 11 and he hasn't become a total retard who's now unable to write his own name or string a sentence together,he's studying his gcse's now like all the other pupils,a lot of whom have taken time off as well at the best school in the area,the same school I went too.

If anyone on here genuinely believes that missing a week or two of school to go on a relaxing break when it's quieter and you actually get to enjoy things without crowds of idiots around you is detrimental to your childrens well being then I personally believe your wrong.

It's just another labour tax that they levied on people under the guise of education to make it credible,a lot like any of this environmental bullshit that's pressed upon us by environMENTALISTS etc.

Lessons are learnt in all areas of life,not just school.think back to your childhood,what do you remember most,double maths or a great holiday with your family?

I never went anywhere with my parents,my father was a golfer who saw fit to have three holidays with his mates rather than one for the whole family.my sister,being born in august regularly got to go away with her mates in the summer under the guise of her birthday present.my mother and myself only went away once skiing when I was 12 and Ill always remember that rather than the weeks education I lost in 1988!!

Both points are valid IMHO,education is important but so is relaxation time with your family,whenever that time maybe,ffs if you told the school you were taking a week off to help the pakistanis dry off their clothes from the flood they'd probably pay for you to go out there!!!!
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cant believe you lot turned this thread into a slagging match about who had a better education and who can spell properly!.why cant you just answer his question about being able to appeal the fine and leave it at that???...most people here couldnt give a flying fuck who can spell properly or not!.grow up........ITS A FUCKING CAR FORUM!
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really????
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Originally Posted by Spoony.
cant believe you lot turned this thread into a slagging match about who had a better education and who can spell properly!.why cant you just answer his question about being able to appeal the fine and leave it at that???...most people here couldnt give a flying fuck who can spell properly or not!.grow up........ITS A FUCKING CAR FORUM!
Passionford is going down hill mate unfortuntately. Couple of years ago it was great. Now its just based on the fact of getting known I think. Maybe a mod should change a few things round here. I think if someone directly sabotages a post or is looking for trouble their should be some consequence IMAO
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Originally Posted by Spoony.
cant believe you lot turned this thread into a slagging match about who had a better education and who can spell properly!.why cant you just answer his question about being able to appeal the fine and leave it at that???...most people here couldnt give a flying fuck who can spell properly or not!.grow up........ITS A FUCKING CAR FORUM!
There are about 30 different subforums on this website, the one that you are reading a post in currently is headed:

General Discussion:
To discuss everything and anything, car related or not

If its cars you are specifically looking to talk about why not try one of the dozens of rooms that are specifically about cars to read instead?

Did you really open a post titled "£50 fine for taking kids on holiday!!" and expect it to be about the maximum safe % at which to run injectors without risking overheating the drivers in an omex 710 ecu?
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Originally Posted by b_kennedy
. I think if someone directly sabotages a post or is looking for trouble their should be some consequence IMAO
dont think people are looking for trouble, they'res just some people who like to bull themselves up and make themselves feel important. Luckily for us, the people with common sense, we see straight through the act and can only imagine just how fucking boring that person must be.
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Originally Posted by StephenC
dont think people are looking for trouble, they'res just some people who like to bull themselves up and make themselves feel important. Luckily for us, the people with common sense, we see straight through the act and can only imagine just how fucking boring that person must be.
LMAO @ that from the person who started the whole thing about how educated they are and quoting all their grades etc to try and prove it
You really are the irony master
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Originally Posted by Chip
LMAO @ that from the person who started the whole thing about how educated they are and quoting all their grades etc to try and prove it
You really are the irony master
must be a different thread to the one I'm on then. You came in all billy big shoes doubting my education and spouting shit about what you didnt know. I merely corrected your usual bullshit assumptions. Think every one already knows what your the master of so I'll omit the details.
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Originally Posted by StephenC
must be a different thread to the one I'm on then.
nope, definately this one, got lots of work on today though, so cant be arsed to go quote etc.
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In reply to one of your comments on page2 , i am a parent and thats why i posted on the thread.
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well i am carefull with this one. But a 5day's is a bit much. But if you saved so much money just pay the fine. Its only 50. When you try to take your kids 5days from school here you get an school inspector on your ass and the fine is much much higher then that 50 you have to pay. Here it can go up the 1000's.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Cant believe you dont understand the MASSIVE difference between the two, were you perchance taken out of school by your parents on the week when they covered fucking common sense?
You owe me a mouthful of tea, and a new keyboard if this one doesnt work after Ive dried it out.
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Originally Posted by StephenC
I used "been able to" in the present prefect sense, notice I put "in my life" adding a definite time span to it. So I think you will find it gramatically fine. Thanks.
It appears there has already been enough discusion surround the incorrect use of "been able to" above, that being said your use of "their" and "there" could do with a brush up.

Originally Posted by StephenC
They say a week off can impact there results by one level but they felt fine not to make it in when it was snowing early this year when we managed to get the kids their in all conditions.
Sorry, I just felt like being a pedant. Nothing personal.
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Originally Posted by FredElliot


Sorry, I just felt like being a pedant. Nothing personal.
I think this is spelt correct and I know im using it inthe correct context, jog on simple cunt The day I can be arsed to cross every T and dot every i on here will be a cold day in hell. Hope you find my post as useful as I found yours. Also hope that you practice what your preach, unless your the same as another ASW on here who likes to think hes above everyone else.
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Touchy, much?
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Originally Posted by Chip
There are about 30 different subforums on this website, the one that you are reading a post in currently is headed:

General Discussion:
To discuss everything and anything, car related or not

If its cars you are specifically looking to talk about why not try one of the dozens of rooms that are specifically about cars to read instead?

Did you really open a post titled "£50 fine for taking kids on holiday!!" and expect it to be about the maximum safe % at which to run injectors without risking overheating the drivers in an omex 710 ecu?

ok maybe i should have put ''ITS A FORUM'' instead because i didnt mean we should only be talking about cars,my bad!!.just dont see why its gone off on a tangent about spelling tbh!...i used to write in 'short term' on here untill MT-T said about spelling properly now i try harder!! lol
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Originally Posted by FredElliot
Touchy, much?
Anything worth saying much??


Quick Reply: £50 fine for taking kids on holiday!!



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