£50 fine for taking kids on holiday!!
29-09-2010, 02:45 PM
#81
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^you should have left that sentence there!!
its wrong because you say so right? Sorry, I'll make do with the dictionaries explanation rather than yours.
kind of over stepping the mark there Chip, talk about me all you wont, dont bring my life and blood in to it who you've definately never met!!!!
Ive proved im more right than you have. Still waiting for your 'proof' on why your right.
its wrong because you say so right? Sorry, I'll make do with the dictionaries explanation rather than yours.
kind of over stepping the mark there Chip, talk about me all you wont, dont bring my life and blood in to it who you've definately never met!!!!
Ive proved im more right than you have. Still waiting for your 'proof' on why your right.
29-09-2010, 02:46 PM
#82
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29-09-2010, 02:57 PM
#84
English TBH is not my strong point anyway relatively speaking as far as education goes as I only did it to GCSE level where as I did other studies to degree level, so Im far more of a scientist than I am an english teacher really, but obviously in the context of talking to yourself im an expert relatively speaking, as after all in the land of the blind the one eyed man can be king.
No mate, I dont make the rules, Im merely telling you what is considered to be correct english, not because I say it is, but because that is the offical line on it.
I havent overstepped the mark at all. It was an accurate comment about your wretched children.
As you seem to like dictionary definitions, here is one for "wretch":
In this case the unfortunate circumstance being that they wanted to go on holiday at a time that wasnt acecptable to the school.
No mate, you have proved nothing at all, all you have done is quoted a load of out on context definitions that you mistakenly believe back up your INCORRECT belief in the correct use of the words Been/Being.
To all of us who actually speak english, those "proofs" were proof of nothing more than your inability to understand this concept, possibly as a result of you being continually dragged out of school as a child.
I have been using the word "being" in the correct context throughout this thread, and if you choose to stop being so determined to proove yourself right when you are wrong and start being interested in learning from this thread, then you can do so simply by reading my posts.
its wrong because you say so right? Sorry, I'll make do with the dictionaries explanation rather than yours.
kind of over stepping the mark there Chip, talk about me all you wont, dont bring my life and blood in to it who you've definately never met!!!!
As you seem to like dictionary definitions, here is one for "wretch":
an unfortunate person who suffers from some adverse circumstance
Ive proved im more right than you have. Still waiting for your 'proof' on why your right.
To all of us who actually speak english, those "proofs" were proof of nothing more than your inability to understand this concept, possibly as a result of you being continually dragged out of school as a child.
I have been using the word "being" in the correct context throughout this thread, and if you choose to stop being so determined to proove yourself right when you are wrong and start being interested in learning from this thread, then you can do so simply by reading my posts.
29-09-2010, 04:00 PM
#90
Those of us who have the advantage of having kids are in a much better position to comment in thread than those who don't.
No matter how well off you are it doesn't change the factthat you won't always get the same level of education even if you go to the same schools and get the same resluts on you exams, some people are easier to teach than others and some people digest what thy are taught much easier as well.
At 2 and 4 I can already see the differencesin my kids and how they are taking to learning even the most basic things, junior knows but doesn't want to apply himself, baby doesn't k ow but wants to have a go at everything so it's a constant struggle.
And as we aren't in the position to take the kids out of school we won't but if we could we would. When they are older it won't be possible as highschools are a lot tougher than little schools.
No matter how well off you are it doesn't change the factthat you won't always get the same level of education even if you go to the same schools and get the same resluts on you exams, some people are easier to teach than others and some people digest what thy are taught much easier as well.
At 2 and 4 I can already see the differencesin my kids and how they are taking to learning even the most basic things, junior knows but doesn't want to apply himself, baby doesn't k ow but wants to have a go at everything so it's a constant struggle.
And as we aren't in the position to take the kids out of school we won't but if we could we would. When they are older it won't be possible as highschools are a lot tougher than little schools.
29-09-2010, 04:15 PM
#91
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Not got time for a long post but fuck me chip, you sure think a lot of yourself!!! Be careful up there, its a long fall down!!! Not sure I've ever come across someone so far up their own arse and still retained the ability to speak, well done.
29-09-2010, 04:18 PM
#92
Originally Posted by chip
English TBH is not my strong point anyway relatively speaking as far as education goes as I only did it to GCSE level
Thats my whole point that you are missing, to make the sort of primary school level errors with words that you are making implies your education was particuarly poor, not that anyone else who knows better must be a genius.
I can speak english reasonably well, I dont think that is a particuarly massive claim to be making TBH
Last edited by Chip; 29-09-2010 at 04:20 PM.
29-09-2010, 04:34 PM
#93
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I was referring to you feeling somehow superior to everyone else in this world by way of trying to talk down at people. Luckily or not so luckily, you decide, it does nothing more than make you look even more of a fool than people already see you as. It's probably best that you haven't got kids, I don't reckon on there been enough room in a house for two of your ego's.
Just to set the record straight my children are not unfortunate in any way shape or form. They're leading a fun and interesting childhood, something you seemed to have lacked. And I'll remind you again, its up to me to judge MY children not you.
Just to set the record straight my children are not unfortunate in any way shape or form. They're leading a fun and interesting childhood, something you seemed to have lacked. And I'll remind you again, its up to me to judge MY children not you.
29-09-2010, 04:35 PM
#94
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We never got fined for a weeks term time holiday in March, but did get a Social Services, and Police Welfare visit because we kept our lad off school when he had a conjunctivitis, this was because the school's(Wayland High School Watton) policy was 2 days off then back to school, the Dr and confirmed by the Practice Manageress, Mary Osborne said it had to be totally cleared up, and said 1 week off, we were threatened with a fine even after I pointed out I thought he docs knew more about health than the school head teacher, one of the "responsible teachers was taking children out in her MPV on lesson stuff, with no insurance for herself or the mpv, let alone to do extra school stuff, I reported her so I know it's true.
When he was off ill I asked for homework that I could collect for him, despite 4 different teachers assuring myself that would be no problem it never happened I went everyday but still no joy, must be very concerned.
Fortunately I had military education, as I think most uk schools are shockingly bad.
I wouldn't pay it personally.
tabetha
When he was off ill I asked for homework that I could collect for him, despite 4 different teachers assuring myself that would be no problem it never happened I went everyday but still no joy, must be very concerned.
Fortunately I had military education, as I think most uk schools are shockingly bad.
I wouldn't pay it personally.
tabetha
29-09-2010, 04:39 PM
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Fuck me stfu chip. you Talk utter SHIT.
As 4 the fine harsh int it, but u saved alot anyway so just pay, even though its wrong! more hassle not paying it isent it.
As 4 the fine harsh int it, but u saved alot anyway so just pay, even though its wrong! more hassle not paying it isent it.
29-09-2010, 04:40 PM
#96
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Pay it you tight cunt
You must have saved more than £50 going off season?
But if you asked permission from the school and they gave your children work did they not mention you would get a fine also?
You must have saved more than £50 going off season?
But if you asked permission from the school and they gave your children work did they not mention you would get a fine also?
29-09-2010, 05:23 PM
#97
I think it's disgusting that the holiday companies are allowed to charge so much during school holidays! My childrens school warns that you may be fined if you take them out of school during school time, but as far as i know, no-one local has been caught.
If the government want this to stop, they should arrange something with the travel/holiday firms, But to be honest, i can't ever see that happening as the holiday companies would lose out massively.
I was taken out of school during term time, my education probably did suffer, but it was the only way i could go 'away' with my family. I'm now in my dream job, which i didn't need any qualifications at all for. Sure, if i studied more i could have been sitting on an office somewhere staring at a computer all day and earning lots, but i wouldn't be having as much fun as i am now
. A good education gives you a good start in life, but it never defines where you will end up.
If the government want this to stop, they should arrange something with the travel/holiday firms, But to be honest, i can't ever see that happening as the holiday companies would lose out massively.
I was taken out of school during term time, my education probably did suffer, but it was the only way i could go 'away' with my family. I'm now in my dream job, which i didn't need any qualifications at all for. Sure, if i studied more i could have been sitting on an office somewhere staring at a computer all day and earning lots, but i wouldn't be having as much fun as i am now
. A good education gives you a good start in life, but it never defines where you will end up.
29-09-2010, 05:27 PM
#99
Actually its StephenC talking the shit, I was just being kind enough to correct him
But if you dont want to read my replies, simply click on "ignore user" on my profile rather than fill up threads whinging about something you can change for yourself anyway.
yeah man init!
But if you dont want to read my replies, simply click on "ignore user" on my profile rather than fill up threads whinging about something you can change for yourself anyway.
As 4 the fine harsh int it, but u saved alot anyway so just pay, even though its wrong! more hassle not paying it isent it.
29-09-2010, 05:28 PM
#100
£100 a day for the school the mrs works at, plus the addition of losing the placement at the school so they are now taking it very seriously. You have to take the stance that if the teachers have to pay higher prices to go on holiday then why do they let the parents take their kids out at cheaper prices.
It's not right I know to exploit parents like the travel companies do but thems the rules and paying the fine is a warning for next time.
It's not right I know to exploit parents like the travel companies do but thems the rules and paying the fine is a warning for next time.
29-09-2010, 05:35 PM
#103
IMO it just shows your level of responsibility as a parent.
Nothing to do with costs or what would be missed in lessons.
Plus it sets an example for our future generations on priorities.
Social standards are slipping in this country (and we all are unhappy about them), and some of the replies to this thread reconfirm my dismay at the way this country is going.
Nothing to do with costs or what would be missed in lessons.
Plus it sets an example for our future generations on priorities.
Social standards are slipping in this country (and we all are unhappy about them), and some of the replies to this thread reconfirm my dismay at the way this country is going.
100% agree! I am also a parent of 4 so guess the "spot those with parents" troop can poke that argument!
No-one has even pointed out that the kids get SIX WEEKS on hols already! Well 6 in Scotland anyway. If you cant arrange to take the kids away in that time there is something far wrong!
A holiday is NOT a right. An education IS. It's extremely selfish of an adult to make that decision on behalf of a child.
Who gives a fuck if it was "the norm" 10-15-20 years ago. It shouldn't have been tolerated ever really.
I agree with chip, fine them more!
29-09-2010, 05:45 PM
#104
Lucifer II - 666
That's what we also did, so I don't understand why StevenC has still got a fine even when they supplied his children with work to complete?
29-09-2010, 05:58 PM
#105
Maybe i've been doing it all wrong... i should really go to france and come back under a lorry, be given a house, have lots and lots of children, never work... perhaps then i'd actually be able to afford to go on holiday during the summer! but thats a different argument entirely really.
fact is, if holidays were the same price all year round, no-one would bother to take their kids out of school to go. I can see why the government are doing this though, it's far easier to fine parents that disobey, than make a deal with the holiday companies which would help them.
fact is, if holidays were the same price all year round, no-one would bother to take their kids out of school to go. I can see why the government are doing this though, it's far easier to fine parents that disobey, than make a deal with the holiday companies which would help them.
29-09-2010, 06:02 PM
#107
Maybe i've been doing it all wrong... i should really go to france and come back under a lorry, be given a house, have lots and lots of children, never work... perhaps then i'd actually be able to afford to go on holiday during the summer! but thats a different argument entirely really.
fact is, if holidays were the same price all year round, no-one would bother to take their kids out of school to go. I can see why the government are doing this though, it's far easier to fine parents that disobey, than make a deal with the holiday companies which would help them.
fact is, if holidays were the same price all year round, no-one would bother to take their kids out of school to go. I can see why the government are doing this though, it's far easier to fine parents that disobey, than make a deal with the holiday companies which would help them.
Its almost like the government are letting consumer decisions and a free market economy and the effects of supply and demand impact the price of items, I could have sworn the tory manifesto said this would be a communist state if we elected them
Last edited by Chip; 29-09-2010 at 06:07 PM.
29-09-2010, 06:14 PM
#109
Yeah, the fucking cunts, its like they charge more in the summer than the winter too for beach holidays, what the fuck are they playing at?
Its almost like the government are letting consumer decisions and a free market economy and the effects of supply and demand impact the price of items, I could have sworn the tory manifesto said this would be a communist state if we elected them
Its almost like the government are letting consumer decisions and a free market economy and the effects of supply and demand impact the price of items, I could have sworn the tory manifesto said this would be a communist state if we elected them
I think they should introduce a 'you're a working family, so here's a ton of money to have a holiday in the summer' benefit to help out, ideally with money from a new 'time spent on the internet' tax. i bet i know who'd be paying the most on here
29-09-2010, 06:43 PM
#110
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Just my two pence on the subject.
i) At the end of the day, going to school it important, missing it for what ever the reason unless its illness, family bereavements and other horrific events is inexcusable. But think of the message your giving your kids, skiving off is more important than work? I can imagine you may have even said "This beats going to school eh kids?" on one or more occasions. Setting the example of responsibility for ones own development and work ethic is the corner stone of every persons career. Kids should be encouraged and actively praised for going to school and you know what? They might actually enjoy it and have a good time doing well and making you proud of their achievements.
ii) People who say school never taught them anything and you have never used what you learned it is utter rubbish. You can speak, read and write, do math, and pretty much everything else you need to do just to get through todays complicated and hectic life.
iii) The difference in prices to go away is criminal imo, however, didn't stop my family finding budget ways to go away when we had holiday time. Book in early, get the mega early bird for the trips, look at last second deals, stay closer to home. Yes its not as nice as you may want it, but its a holiday and its time with the family no matter what you do. You have kids and comes with that responsibility
iv) Kids get it easy enough as it is anyway! All them end of term and half term holidays and finishing at 3pm every day, do they really need another two weeks off.
i) At the end of the day, going to school it important, missing it for what ever the reason unless its illness, family bereavements and other horrific events is inexcusable. But think of the message your giving your kids, skiving off is more important than work? I can imagine you may have even said "This beats going to school eh kids?" on one or more occasions. Setting the example of responsibility for ones own development and work ethic is the corner stone of every persons career. Kids should be encouraged and actively praised for going to school and you know what? They might actually enjoy it and have a good time doing well and making you proud of their achievements.
ii) People who say school never taught them anything and you have never used what you learned it is utter rubbish. You can speak, read and write, do math, and pretty much everything else you need to do just to get through todays complicated and hectic life.
iii) The difference in prices to go away is criminal imo, however, didn't stop my family finding budget ways to go away when we had holiday time. Book in early, get the mega early bird for the trips, look at last second deals, stay closer to home. Yes its not as nice as you may want it, but its a holiday and its time with the family no matter what you do. You have kids and comes with that responsibility
iv) Kids get it easy enough as it is anyway! All them end of term and half term holidays and finishing at 3pm every day, do they really need another two weeks off.
Last edited by MadMac; 29-09-2010 at 06:44 PM.
29-09-2010, 07:09 PM
#111
For Sale..Apply within.
RE: the fine
You knew about it before you went, you still went anyway, man the fuck up and pay it.
Some families cant even afford to take a holiday any time of year so think yourself lucky
RE: everything else
Chip is right. Sorry.
You knew about it before you went, you still went anyway, man the fuck up and pay it.
Some families cant even afford to take a holiday any time of year so think yourself lucky
RE: everything else
Chip is right. Sorry.
29-09-2010, 07:12 PM
#112
100% agree! I am also a parent of 4 so guess the "spot those with parents" troop can poke that argument!
No-one has even pointed out that the kids get SIX WEEKS on hols already! Well 6 in Scotland anyway. If you cant arrange to take the kids away in that time there is something far wrong!
A holiday is NOT a right. An education IS. It's extremely selfish of an adult to make that decision on behalf of a child!
No-one has even pointed out that the kids get SIX WEEKS on hols already! Well 6 in Scotland anyway. If you cant arrange to take the kids away in that time there is something far wrong!
A holiday is NOT a right. An education IS. It's extremely selfish of an adult to make that decision on behalf of a child!
It's entirely dependant on the child, and the family – There are loads of factors which affect the situation such as the child's age, parents level of interaction with their kids, the child's level of intellect, and the length of time taken off (a week max is acceptable IMO)
A week with the family in a loving environment where they learn about, and experience, things they don't do during the normal week is by no means a bad thing, and to think it is, to me at least, seems a very strange view for a parent to have.
Last edited by DanW@FastFord; 29-09-2010 at 07:13 PM.
29-09-2010, 07:54 PM
#116
Go on holiday in Kids holiday time.
Thats what its there for. Children going to school every day is important and what prepares them for work.
Maybe their parents teaching them school is not important by going on holiday is part of the reason why so many young adults are too lasy to do a days work!
IMO and thats all it is. it is that its wrong to take a holiday during school time!
If youre child is sick then she or he is sick (as long as its genuine)
My Oldest (4 years old) has not missed one day of school and loves it (for the time being lol) she has come in to me and the wife and said
"my tummy hurts"
I say "what enough to stop you going to school"
She says
"of course not Daddy"
If i was to say from day 1
"OH NO we better not send you to school"
and she has a day off and realises what fun it is being lazy and sitting infront of the telly all day maybe she might want to get sick more often
If you catch my drift.
Although saying someones parenting is not right (only in my opinion of course) normally pisses people off that think it is right. as eveyone thinks they know best with their kids. Me included!
Thats what its there for. Children going to school every day is important and what prepares them for work.
Maybe their parents teaching them school is not important by going on holiday is part of the reason why so many young adults are too lasy to do a days work!
IMO and thats all it is. it is that its wrong to take a holiday during school time!
If youre child is sick then she or he is sick (as long as its genuine)
My Oldest (4 years old) has not missed one day of school and loves it (for the time being lol) she has come in to me and the wife and said
"my tummy hurts"
I say "what enough to stop you going to school"
She says
"of course not Daddy"
If i was to say from day 1
"OH NO we better not send you to school"
and she has a day off and realises what fun it is being lazy and sitting infront of the telly all day maybe she might want to get sick more often
If you catch my drift.
Although saying someones parenting is not right (only in my opinion of course) normally pisses people off that think it is right. as eveyone thinks they know best with their kids. Me included!
Last edited by Ebonycossie4x4; 29-09-2010 at 07:56 PM.
29-09-2010, 07:57 PM
#117
100% agree! I am also a parent of 4 so guess the "spot those with parents" troop can poke that argument!
No-one has even pointed out that the kids get SIX WEEKS on hols already! Well 6 in Scotland anyway. If you cant arrange to take the kids away in that time there is something far wrong!
A holiday is NOT a right. An education IS. It's extremely selfish of an adult to make that decision on behalf of a child.
Who gives a fuck if it was "the norm" 10-15-20 years ago. It shouldn't have been tolerated ever really.
I agree with chip, fine them more!
No-one has even pointed out that the kids get SIX WEEKS on hols already! Well 6 in Scotland anyway. If you cant arrange to take the kids away in that time there is something far wrong!
A holiday is NOT a right. An education IS. It's extremely selfish of an adult to make that decision on behalf of a child.
Who gives a fuck if it was "the norm" 10-15-20 years ago. It shouldn't have been tolerated ever really.
I agree with chip, fine them more!
bang on!
29-09-2010, 07:59 PM
#118
Here's a funny thought i had while offline.
People are taking their kids out of school before term ends so that they get a cheaper holiday, presumably because they cant afford it.
Does that mean there's more chance that the more clever people can afford it and hence are more likely to have been the people who didn't get taken out of school early?
A bit of a sweeping statement but rather ironic i think
Correct, no excuses it should not happen.
I never did mention the 2 weeks at easter, 2 weeks at october or the 2 weeks at xmas on top of the 6 weeks summer hols and numerous bank holidays and in-service days did i?
PLENTY time to do some holidaying in there.
Benni i used to think he was an arsehole until i realised he's usually right and it was a small clash of personality
He's right and thats what people don't like
People are taking their kids out of school before term ends so that they get a cheaper holiday, presumably because they cant afford it.
Does that mean there's more chance that the more clever people can afford it and hence are more likely to have been the people who didn't get taken out of school early?
A bit of a sweeping statement but rather ironic i think
So you think that taking a 6 year old child out of school for a couple of days is selfish? Even if the child is doing work meant for the next year up, as she's progressed so well?
It's entirely dependant on the child, and the family – There are loads of factors which affect the situation such as the child's age, parents level of interaction with their kids, the child's level of intellect, and the length of time taken off (a week max is acceptable IMO)
A week with the family in a loving environment where they learn about, and experience, things they don't do during the normal week is by no means a bad thing, and to think it is, to me at least, seems a very strange view for a parent to have.
It's entirely dependant on the child, and the family – There are loads of factors which affect the situation such as the child's age, parents level of interaction with their kids, the child's level of intellect, and the length of time taken off (a week max is acceptable IMO)
A week with the family in a loving environment where they learn about, and experience, things they don't do during the normal week is by no means a bad thing, and to think it is, to me at least, seems a very strange view for a parent to have.
I never did mention the 2 weeks at easter, 2 weeks at october or the 2 weeks at xmas on top of the 6 weeks summer hols and numerous bank holidays and in-service days did i?
PLENTY time to do some holidaying in there.
Benni i used to think he was an arsehole until i realised he's usually right and it was a small clash of personality
He's right and thats what people don't like
