Emerald / Dave Walker - any good with cossies?
21-07-2010, 07:44 PM
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Emerald / Dave Walker - any good with cossies?
I know Dave from back in the day - he built my Dad's Westfield engine 20 years ago, but what is he like with setting up cossies? Don't want to switch over to Emerald management, just want a general set-up. Does he know his way around a cossie?
Mine ain't been set up for 3 years and just want a general check over and MSD is a bit far to go.
Cheers
Mine ain't been set up for 3 years and just want a general check over and MSD is a bit far to go.
Cheers
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21-07-2010, 09:46 PM
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Cheers. I've got a stage 1 ahmed bayjoo chip and am happy with this, just want a check over and setup.
Nice colour cossie by the way Pete.
Nice colour cossie by the way Pete.
21-07-2010, 10:16 PM
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Tried them a few years ago and won't use them again. They took £50 quid of me to get a new actuator for me (which I didn't need) and were going to give me a date to come in for a setup once the part arrived. I never heard from them again. They ignored all calls / messages left. I gave up in the end and just wrote off my money.
21-07-2010, 10:49 PM
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Tabetha on here uses him to map his cossie on emerald, i really dont know if he has the tools to map marelli tho.
but by all accounts he's top notch at mapping
i'm sure he could do a fueling check and make sure everything is in order for you, but if the map need adjusting he wont be able to do it unless he has the tools
but by all accounts he's top notch at mapping
i'm sure he could do a fueling check and make sure everything is in order for you, but if the map need adjusting he wont be able to do it unless he has the tools
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22-07-2010, 01:44 PM
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He doesn't have the software needed for other ecu's, or the time anyway.
IMO he's minter than mint, if you cars shit he'll tell you, he's absolutely truthfull, but amazingly competent, he likes the old skool stuff, but can set up turbo'd no problem but only if on emerald, I think it would be worth your while asking dave if he'll just do a fuelling check for you, but is a way to drive, up to you. Emerald 01953 881625, best time would be about 09:30.
Having had various chips on my L6, no way on earth would I go back to one, the best chip I had by a mile was a GGR/Westfield chip stage1.
The boost control is just so much better on the K3/K6 as it is now, as well as the ace mapping, I can get over 40mpg, without seriously trying, none of this closed loop crap either, just proper mapping.
When I go to scarby, from near norwich, I go A17/A15 etc over the bridge, so not long run stuff, and do the 180 miles in just under 4 hours(stop 3 times for dog to have a wee!!), and got 40.8mpg last time, the off boost power is a world away from the chips I was using, even at the same max power, compared with my last chip/L6 I gained 30bhp for 9psi LESS boost, when mapped on K3.
tabetha
IMO he's minter than mint, if you cars shit he'll tell you, he's absolutely truthfull, but amazingly competent, he likes the old skool stuff, but can set up turbo'd no problem but only if on emerald, I think it would be worth your while asking dave if he'll just do a fuelling check for you, but is a way to drive, up to you. Emerald 01953 881625, best time would be about 09:30.
Having had various chips on my L6, no way on earth would I go back to one, the best chip I had by a mile was a GGR/Westfield chip stage1.
The boost control is just so much better on the K3/K6 as it is now, as well as the ace mapping, I can get over 40mpg, without seriously trying, none of this closed loop crap either, just proper mapping.
When I go to scarby, from near norwich, I go A17/A15 etc over the bridge, so not long run stuff, and do the 180 miles in just under 4 hours(stop 3 times for dog to have a wee!!), and got 40.8mpg last time, the off boost power is a world away from the chips I was using, even at the same max power, compared with my last chip/L6 I gained 30bhp for 9psi LESS boost, when mapped on K3.
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22-07-2010, 01:48 PM
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bit far to go for a fueling check and dont think he can do much tweaking on the marelli.
Try a PM to chip,. hes always bored during the week and might be able to sort you out one night?
as the the bloke's competence, hes no idiot thats for sure, he LITERALLY wrote the book on engine management... lol
Try a PM to chip,. hes always bored during the week and might be able to sort you out one night?
as the the bloke's competence, hes no idiot thats for sure, he LITERALLY wrote the book on engine management... lol
22-07-2010, 03:44 PM
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Tried them a few years ago and won't use them again. They took £50 quid of me to get a new actuator for me (which I didn't need) and were going to give me a date to come in for a setup once the part arrived. I never heard from them again. They ignored all calls / messages left. I gave up in the end and just wrote off my money.
22-07-2010, 08:26 PM
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Surely you don't want your mapping touched as you already have a remapped chip to which nothing would have changed.
TBH IMO once a cars remapped and/or setup I see no point in keep taking back for a "Setup" as what's the point if everythings been setup already? Apart from the obvious servicing like changing spark plugs and generally checking over things.
An AFR check can't do no harm I agree.
Martin
TBH IMO once a cars remapped and/or setup I see no point in keep taking back for a "Setup" as what's the point if everythings been setup already? Apart from the obvious servicing like changing spark plugs and generally checking over things.
An AFR check can't do no harm I agree.
Martin
23-07-2010, 08:43 AM
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Never ceases to amaze me when people say about this tuner or that tuner being really good "he does mine twice a year" etc etc when nothing has altered, but year after year it's better!!
I'd maybe once a year go for a precautionary on load fuelling check, just to be safe.
tabetha
I'd maybe once a year go for a precautionary on load fuelling check, just to be safe.
tabetha
23-07-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
..he's minter than mint, if you cars shit he'll tell you, he's absolutely truthfull, but amazingly competent...
POST 22 From this thread ... https://passionford.com/forum/genera...cossy-cap.html
Originally Posted by tabetha
.... I didn't bother doing anything with mine, was mapped like that perfectly too, if I plugged the hole now the change would be too small to detect. tabetha
?????? !!!
Originally Posted by tabetha
.... compared with my last chip/L6 I gained 30bhp for 9psi LESS boost, when mapped on K3.
If this were true, why are F1 cars not running Emerald
Its down to the engine build, tuning stratedgy, mapping ability, experience and attention to detail.
Off the shelf chips are a compromise of safety/power and emmissions so will never perform as good as a live mapped system.
Originally Posted by tabetha
..... I can get over 40mpg, without seriously trying, none of this closed loop crap either, just proper mapping
You may very well map the car perfectly for economy etc... but thats only valid for that split second !
Engines are continuously changing/wearing out/air filters blocking gradulally/exhaust pipes filling with soot ect....
All these serve to upset AFR slighlty in any speed desity system that doesnt use an air flow meter to regulate fuelling.
Adding a lambda sensor will trim the fuel at various rates and courseness over its driving cycle and lifetime so get the best economy at light to medium loads.
If closed loop is so "crap" why does every car have one now if not to save fuel and control emmisions efficiently...
May I suggest Dave Walkers Haynes manual as that has a nice bit on closed loop in there.
While I think about it doesnt the K3 have lambda control.. Does haveing that make the K3 "crap" ? lol
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23-07-2010, 07:12 PM
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I've never not replied, you are all entitled to your own opinions, I've no problem with that at all.
If you are naive enough to think you are important enough to me to cause me to lose sleep, just await the next thought, it's a public forum.
Some tuners don't agree with the closed loop being the be all and end all, must admit I didn't find any benefit, to me it seems another msd money making scam, but that's just my opinion, others will no doubt disagree, but unlike most I don't lick arse like so many others on here.
As to one ecu being no better than any other, I maintain it's 99% down to the mapper not the ecu, I got rid of my L6 due to the exorbitant imo cost of upgrading to coilpack and certain other bits, and still paying a piss take charge for mapping, and STILL being tied to certain people with the relevant software for the ecu's.
Oddly enough even ford changed thier ecu's a few times, I think it must be just to spend money when "all ecu's" are just as good ?
The recent bollocks/bullshit given by danny@ enhanced performance with ref to ashcossie 390lbft on a T3 shows the real quality of some of the specialists.
You pay your money(and my benefit, thanks.) so spend as you wish, ta ta.
tabetha
If you are naive enough to think you are important enough to me to cause me to lose sleep, just await the next thought, it's a public forum.
Some tuners don't agree with the closed loop being the be all and end all, must admit I didn't find any benefit, to me it seems another msd money making scam, but that's just my opinion, others will no doubt disagree, but unlike most I don't lick arse like so many others on here.
As to one ecu being no better than any other, I maintain it's 99% down to the mapper not the ecu, I got rid of my L6 due to the exorbitant imo cost of upgrading to coilpack and certain other bits, and still paying a piss take charge for mapping, and STILL being tied to certain people with the relevant software for the ecu's.
Oddly enough even ford changed thier ecu's a few times, I think it must be just to spend money when "all ecu's" are just as good ?
The recent bollocks/bullshit given by danny@ enhanced performance with ref to ashcossie 390lbft on a T3 shows the real quality of some of the specialists.
You pay your money(and my benefit, thanks.) so spend as you wish, ta ta.
tabetha
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23-07-2010, 10:33 PM
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Tabetha,why worry what Flux/simon and the other bum licking mongs have to say?...if Simon was SOOOOOO good,why is the prick always looking for employment? One of my best mates is in the same field(kind of...he is trained).....and F1 has kept him in the black for many a year...i remember Martoons reply in some recent post about disco lights......ring any bells or hit any home truths???
24-07-2010, 08:37 AM
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Tabetha,why worry what Flux/simon and the other bum licking mongs have to say?...if Simon was SOOOOOO good,why is the prick always looking for employment? One of my best mates is in the same field(kind of...he is trained).....and F1 has kept him in the black for many a year...i remember Martoons reply in some recent post about disco lights......ring any bells or hit any home truths???
24-07-2010, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
I've never not replied, you are all entitled to your own opinions, I've no problem with that at all.
If you are naive enough to think you are important enough to me to cause me to lose sleep, just await the next thought, it's a public forum.
If you are naive enough to think you are important enough to me to cause me to lose sleep, just await the next thought, it's a public forum.
And even now you have replied, you havent given any reasoning for your comments just arrogance !
Originally Posted by tabetha
Some tuners don't agree with the closed loop being the be all and end all, must admit I didn't find any benefit,
Yours could not have set up properly or your engine had other issues if you didnt see any benefit.
Originally Posted by tabetha
... to me it seems another msd money making scam, but that's just my opinion, others will no doubt disagree, but unlike most I don't lick arse like so many others on here.
It is a proven method of saving fuel and money and MSD are one of the very few tuners who actually have the ability to offer such products and services.
This isnt arse licking anyone it is just facts as I assure you I have no allegance to MSD despite my history with Stu.
Instead of just repeating what one narrow minded tuner has told you perhaps you should try reading up on what the world is doing instead of staying behind the times as just because your tuner doesnt like something he obviously doesnt understand that doesnt make it bad.
Originally Posted by tabetha
as to one ecu being no better than any other, I maintain it's 99% down to the mapper not the ecu, I got rid of my L6 due to the exorbitant imo cost of upgrading to coilpack and certain other bits, and still paying a piss take charge for mapping, and STILL being tied to certain people with the relevant software for the ecu's.
However, any one wanting to retro fit a coil pack system to their existing ecu, its an advantage.
As for the costs of live mapping, you pay your money and take your chance but I wouldnt personally trust anyone to map a car with a faulty fuel pressure regulator like you did !
Originally Posted by tabetha
Oddly enough even ford changed thier ecu's a few times, I think it must be just to spend money when "all ecu's" are just as good ?
The L6 didnt have closed loop whereas the L8 did. !
Also, OEM ECU's are built to a cost as they are designed to do one job at the time of manufacturing but times change and even now the humble ECU in modern cars form complex systems including traction control/ABS safety etc...
Originally Posted by tabetha
The recent bollocks/bullshit given by danny@ enhanced performance with ref to ashcossie 390lbft on a T3 shows the real quality of some of the specialists.
You pay your money(and my benefit, thanks.) so spend as you wish, ta ta.
tabetha
You pay your money(and my benefit, thanks.) so spend as you wish, ta ta.
tabetha
I look forward to our future one way discussions
.... Ta Ta
Tabetha,why worry what Flux/simon and the other bum licking mongs have to say?...if Simon was SOOOOOO good,why is the prick always looking for employment? One of my best mates is in the same field(kind of...he is trained).....and F1 has kept him in the black for many a year...i remember Martoons reply in some recent post about disco lights......ring any bells or hit any home truths???
The reason I look for employment as the work I do is contract based.
I.E. I work for months on end on one job but then have to find a new contract so always look ahead.
I work in many fields not just automotive but have been lucky enough to get work in the engine industry which is my favourite !
If you think working in F1 makes someone better than me then what does that make you ..LOL
As for the disco light reference....
I am a part owner in a large night club in which I also build lighting and laser shows.
I get to drink for free, meet fit women and famous singers/performers !
This is something I enjoy doing as a hobby so I fail to see why this so called "home truth" would be bad !
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