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just got a price and there bloody cheap compared to anyone else, just waiting for them to confirm something then il put the price up for anyone interested
just got a price and there bloody cheap compared to anyone else, just waiting for them to confirm something then il put the price up for anyone interested
Yeah put it up or send me a PM if you want to keep it quiet?
...you can use std headbolts at 600bhp so long studding isnt essential BUT i feel its better to have when using the WRC head gasket to get the clamp. If your running high comp then it is essential imo.
...you can use std headbolts at 600bhp so long studding isnt essential BUT i feel its better to have when using the WRC head gasket to get the clamp. If your running high comp then it is essential imo.
id love to see how long a yb running 600 bhp with out long studs would last!!!!
if your building a big spec yb why wouldnt you make it better for the cost of long studding???
the clamping forces are better and come from the base of the block instead of the deck much safer and stronger....
The NMS monster runs std head bolts i beleive...that has a lot of bhp lol.
Its called "wrc" longstudding for a reason and thats only 300bhp with massive torque massive boost spike 9-1 + comp.
why do you think ford desighned a thick wall block back in the early 80s for??
The bttc cars(rs500)had a thick wall block wich could be drilled for long studding and big power upgrades,and funnily people and race teams did this to good effect
What power were these phil you numpty???550 bhp+ with what cr???6.8 and evenlower iirc
so as i said your talking shit mate!!!!
long studding was here before any body even thought of high comp engines and has nothing to do with power but boost pressures to stop the heads moving around on the block hence why they still use them on the wrc yb engines...
Also it was grp a long studding first so wrong again...
I am concerned about my eninge at 480 bhp and no long studs!. Let alone 600.
the thing is it may be fine but with all that boost you run the head will be moving around on the block and sooner or latter it will crack the block face and if the hg does goe it will make a bigger mess than if studded as the std head bolts loosen before the hg starts to leak badly and can cause detting,its all ifs and buts but hey ho it works now just worry about it when it goes wrong...
My engine was fine with 2.5 bar peak boost from a t34 but 2.5 bar froma Gt30 is another matter which is why i am slightly concerned . But yes you are correct its all ifs and's and but's. Will worry if it starts to go wrong
the thing is it may be fine but with all that boost you run the head will be moving around on the block and sooner or latter it will crack the block face and if the hg does goe it will make a bigger mess than if studded as the std head bolts loosen before the hg starts to leak badly and can cause detting,its all ifs and buts but hey ho it works now just worry about it when it goes wrong...
cheers danny
can you retorque the headbolts danny, or is it possible to replace the headbolts without removing the head ?
can you retorque the headbolts danny, or is it possible to replace the headbolts without removing the head ?
thats a good one..if you mean the long stud nuts then yes we always re torque them after the first hot run,if you mean std ones then you can always chek the torque settings as for changing them without removing the head you can change them one at a time using the torque pattern with out any trouble,just dont undoe them al at once as the head will lift and put fluids in the cylinder
yes thats what i meant danny ,if you checked and the bolts had lost their torque setting could you change them one a time using the original settings.
it could save a lot of hassle maybe?
Last time i got a block done,it was by a guy in blackpool,recomennded by msd,cost £200 and i supplied my own long studs,doing it again i would get 10 studs done
04-03-2010, 12:31 PM
they will make the studs for you and machine the block.
. But yes you are correct its all ifs and's and but's. Will worry if it starts to go wrong
