davi

Can anyone recomend a good one that wont cost thousands? and if so where to get it. cheers terry.

RANJ

autronic one 1200 quid ish

the original

tech edge australia

PhilM

www.innovatemotorsport.com

davi

Cant see anything on there or am i being stupid .

PhilM

Im a cock....excuse me

www.innovatemotorsportS.com

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

I can probably supply the Innovate one.......

(I think they are around £300)

Ginge !

zoo motorsport



ranj do you have a shares in autronic or do ya work for em



and is autronic the quickest qord you can type on a keyboard now

RANJ

not yet, but if/when they float on market i will have

Ginge !

please tell me ya joking


thats worse than members of halfords staff buying shares



and lot done that aswell

stevieturbo

try ebay ??

Steve200+

Zoo Motorsport, Sean quoted me a VERY reasonable price for one, which I'll be having this year.

Edit, checked my PM's, and as of October, quoted under £600 including VAT

88_WRC_Replica

I just got one of these for Christmas, my LM1 wideband keeps giving faulty readings. It read way higher than I'll ever need but it's not bad as a backup against my dyno map.




AEM’s Wideband UEGO Controller is also available in a gauge that includes a single-channel analog output with a Bosch O2 sensor in one unit!

AEM’s Gauge-Type Wideband UEGO Controller features an LED readout and sweeping LED “needle” that changes colors as AFR changes from rich to lean. The unit’s 52mm (2-1/16”) gauge housing fits in most gauge pods and can be remotely mounted virtually anywhere. No laptop required for monitoring!

Key Features:

# Bosch sensor included!

# 24 Color-coded LED display lights provide immediate reference to engine’s air/fuel ratio (AFR) or Lambda

# Integrated three-digit display reveals AFR or Lambda in real time

# User-programmable 0-5v analog output included for use with data loggers and ANY engine management system

# Ideal AFR monitoring tool for carbureted applications and engine dynamometers

# Does not oscillate AFR like narrow band sensors

# Serial data stream included for output of AFR (RS 232)

# Accurate to 0.1 AFR

Cost $450.00

tiny

Nice one, the AEM one, where did you get it from ? and can it be run with
2 lambda sensurs, im running a v8 with 4 downdrafts, or would i need 2
gauges. thanks

88_WRC_Replica

I ordered it from my local shop, you would have to run two kits.

I still have yet to find any system that can meter more than one sensor at a time and display the info on one display. I can meter up to 8 exhaust temp sensors with my FAST ECU but with my motor Ive only got it running 4.

tiny

Thanks, i have found one that does, FJO revolutions, but it doesnt look as
good urs, cheers anyway.

Anonymous

That AEM one looks like a nice bit of kit.

Ive got a techedge one, and it works brilliantly, would certainly recomend those.

XRTypeRS

I have one too, made the kit up myself - took a while but works a treat, gives me a lot more confidence when booting it to see the AFR drop to a nice low black smoke producing figure!!

GARETH T

i use one of these aswell,, it is worth buying the sensor heat shut

just it on many cars from 120 hp cars too 400 hp cars

Fiecos Dan

yeah i use tech edge, with bosch vw 5 wire sensor,
here's it fitted in my cars.

XRTypeRS

Dan, any idea what the push button on the side of the LD01 display is meant to do??! - mine doesnt seem to do much at all!! - just seems to put the display out when you press it!.

M Brian

do you have to build the tech edge?

seen in few othe mags this month... www.dynojet.com wideband AFM dont know if any good £400ish apparently.

how much tech edge looking at?

flashpoint

No you can buy a built unit from techedge
http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/default.htm

Cheers

Steve

XRTypeRS

Melv, i would advise buying in premade unless you are pretty good at electronics building - its a very time consuming job to make up the kit if you want to make a top job of the building it - cant fault its operation though and the fact its kind of "open architecture" means that if i ever breaks it should be possible to fix - im sure the more "snazzy" looking items would be much more difficult to repair locally.

stevieturbo

The only bad thing about Innovates one is the display is huge. Not exactly somehting you would want installed full time in the car.

For V8 users, AEM do a 2 channel unit, although not sure what way the display works for that model.
Handiest Ive found so far is the PLX devices its a very compact unit, easy to install most places. You might even find one on ebay....


The techedge stuff is good, but as mentioned very tricky to build and test. So not for all people. If considering that model, best bet is to buy a built unit.

Once you have had a wideband installed in your car, its hard to imagine driving without it.

JesseT

It's not a button...

It's a light sensor used to automaticly tune the display brightness.

I recommend the TechEdge kit as well. Can be built in an evening if you've built something before. Under 200£ including controller, sensor, cables, connectors and display. It also includes a datalogger if one doesn't have it in the engine management already.

Fiecos Dan

yeah its a light senser, ment to dim it wen press, but dont do nothin on mine.
i taped over it cos as you drive at nite goes brite to dim as you go past lamp post.

£160ish can buy as kit, but no warrentie,

or £230ish complete ready built.

you say its big,
but i think autronic are hand held, like most tunin ones, as not intended for perminate in car units.

but zoo use same display,

XRTypeRS

Jesse - I know there is a LDR to control the brightness inside the hole on the front - that works fine!

I mean the push to make switch on the left hand side of the unit, you can see it on dave's pic.

GINGA

http://www.plxdevices.com/index.htm

JesseT

I see now. I don't have one, but it can be that some versions had the datalogging activation switch on the display instead of the actual control box.

XRTypeRS

Hmmm, well my main WBo2 unit has a datalogger but I cant see how the display could - i will have to email TechEdge and ask them

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

Techedge. Works great.... I think! I don't really know because I don't understand what the numbers mean!

JesseT

14.7 is the middle point, stochiometric, chemical balance in process, all air and all fuel is used in theory.

Over this, say 15-17 is lean, over 17 and I will get misfire at cruise.

Rich down to 13.0 gives more torque and power a bit too.

With turbo cars 11.5-12.0 is usually targetted at WOT and high boost to have reasonable cylinder head temperatures not to melt a piston. A mall change to richer will have a dramatic effect to exhaust gas temperatures.

XRTypeRS

Simple...

Lower number = less RS "meltdown" paranoia!!

Matt

incredible effect

couldnt believe my eyes how much so on my car

Matt

Fiecos Dan

12.6:1 is max power,
15.0:1 is best fuel econ,
idle is best around 14.7= 0% co mot figure.
cruise best at 14-15.0:1
full go (boost) mid range 12.6:1
mid to top revs 11.8-12.0 for safety of melt down, but for power 12.0-12.3.

foreigneRS

i have used the techedge 1.0 or 1.5 before and rate it. but they don't do it anymore.

however, the 2.0 version is even better. although these things are great for having in the car all the time, the most useful time to use them is for live mapping. this is not easy on your own, as someone has to drive the car.

but with the 2.0 version of the techedge, you can use it to log lambda, engine speed and 3 other 0-5V analoge inputs (boost, tps etc)and 3 thermocouples (egt) so that you can do a run, go into the map afterwards and change the fuelling and then run and log it again to see the effects of your changes.

proper bo bit of kit. will order me up one tomorrow.

Fiecos Dan

yeah mine is the 2.0 version, aint got round to setting it up for data log.