tomoyb

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is it really worth while,they delete every post that becomes intresting

makes me wonder whats the point



to add from previous about scottish tuners i think youll find ava built rapidcossies car and compare the results at daddy thrash to the likes of yums cars,and take into account the costs

andy g and charlie shaw dominate anything on track these days,end of deal with it

Chip

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Euan's car was fairly quick, although obviously nowhere near the standards top speed wise of engines from english tuners like MAD or SCS

AndyG and Charlie Shaw do very well on track, they really do prove that the english can build a good YB

tomoyb

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yes harvey builds their engines chip,but are you honestly trying to say what euans car made a couple of year back on that kind of budget wasent embaressing others that had a bottemless pit to spend on their cars?

tomoyb

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im not biased here,your mate richy made it scotland/england,not me,im just looking at the bigger picture

Chip

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I didnt really see him as embarassing anyone TBH mate no, and his car wasnt exactly a budget build, lots of money spent on it, and running the same management as YUM and MadRod do for that matter too, I know cause its now on my nova after I bought it off him, lol

Chip

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The bigger picture is that the cars the scottish lads bang on about, use english engines, thats not my fault, its just the truth, dont blame me

P_is_for_Paul

That "another big man" thread wasn't going to shit. IMO, it was funny. Playful banter that time and we were all havin a laugh. Why was it deleted?

Si B

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This is why I love Chip

to the OP

Not getting involved in the Scot vs English thing, don't give a damn either way, and creating more posts about it doesn't solve the problem. That's why I locked the last post I made that went tits up, and a mod binned your last post, and in due course this one too.

Who gives a flying fook, more important things in life to get stressed over.

Chip

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Moving to the muppet or dummy room is the most that thread needed, there was no need at all to delete it, this place is getting ridiculous moderation wise TBH it was all good natured fun and banter!

P_is_for_Paul

It's all light hearted banter on an Internet forum tbh. If anyone takes it more serious than that then they need shot!

CRAIG HAYTER

Tomoyb thinks he knows everything thing Chip he clearly is on the drink or completely daft

Rick Astley

He's scottish.

RobL

CRAIG HAYTER

Dont you fucking start

P_is_for_Paul

Wonder who invented the phone that carrys your Internet connection for you to type that?

scott_j166

Just like its not there fault they build better cars to put the engines in and actualy use them for what they were built for

biglee

now now guys we all live on the same lump of earth!!

cutch

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haha laughing at the tag!

Chip

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Clearly you havent seen Harvey out on track in his escort if you think that!

Big G

They wanna pipe down in that colony ooop there and get back to tackling their sisters ......
























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Rod-Tarry

Can i be rather silly in GD & start quoting facts, Data logs actually I got them from mags etc. Sadly I collect them .
You quote Euans car so my answer is about his chosen discipline Topspeed & how it compares to big budget cars.
His 188 mph was reached in 37 seconds compare that with Daves who reached 190 in 27 secs or indeed Andrews 196 reached in 26secs. Martin has hit 200 in 35secs & mine in 25.
Euans was a great effort on his budget & a consistent performer who i had great respect for because he put it on the line, but not fast in real terms or even close sorry but you must use facts not guess work.

You can see where the money goes getting from 188 in 37 to 200 in 25.
I trust only facts will be used in your answer. .

timrud

Or you mean there will be no answer from him

P_is_for_Paul

Isn't that Manchester your on about? Ey ey ey ey

Neil@FastFord

188mph in a Saph is fast IMO

I'll bet that not many care about it taking a few seconds longer than another car.

Chip

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Well if you care about top speed then acceleration is pretty important, so in that context I should think everyone into that particular field of competition cares about it a great deal TBH mate!
In terms of how it feels in the car as well, 200 in 25 seconds is utterly night and day different to 188mph in 37 seconds, thats like comparing a standard mk6 escort with an escort cosworth in terms of the difference in how it pins you back in your seat!

In the real world though, I bet it was a scarey fast car

alan12112

Spot on there Neil - I dont care who you are 188mph is fast in ANY terms - will waving or not Rod!

CossieRich

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the amusement of it all

tomo - i acutally apologised to you on the other thread so please stop getting your kinckers in a twist. Fact of the matter is there is a select group of people who happen to come from Scotland having a pop at Dave. If you werent involved in the discussion why are you so bothered

And as one scot said on here - "can he be excluded from the scottish cunts group"

i rest my case stop dribbling and enjoy PF. It is after all an amsuing place to be with very interersting people and topics

Now back on track - Euans cosworth was or still is a very fast car and its one car i never got a ride in unfortunately.

Chip

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188mph is fast, without a doubt, however you got there, but most people judge a car by its acceleration, and in that respect 37 seconds to 188mph is a country mile away from 25 seconds to 200mph

Its the same as the difference between a 15 second quarter and a 10 second one in terms of average acceleration!

P_is_for_Paul

This wasn't a Dave thread at all. The only people to mention Dave here are Chip and Rod. So it's nothing to do with having a pop at Dave this one!

And it was me that asked if we were all getting tarred with the same brush, but that was when everyone was having a dig at daves car. Now this thread seems to be a Scottish/English thing, I thought I'd add my bit for my side!

Were all having a laugh anyway it's not as if were serious Christ..............























you English bastard

Neil@FastFord

But i don't care about top speed.

It's kinda obvious a car with a shorter time is faster.

I just felt its a bit harsh to say "not fast in real terms or even close sorry",

My opinion.

Glenn_

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i agree with neil. I think 180 is quick enough.

Chip

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If someone had a 10 second quarter mile car, and someone else was comparing a 15 second quarter mile car to it, would you understand in that context that the 15 second car was "not fast in real terms or even close sorry" compared to the 10 second car?

I think with top speed, a lot of the time people just dont appreciate the difference that 15mph actually represents, but they tend to be more aware of the difference 5 seconds on the quarter makes, if that makes sense?

Rod isnt having a go, like he said he has a lot of respect for what rapidcossie did achieve, but the two cars really are a massive difference apart, just like a 15 second and a 10 second car on the quarter are.

Neil@FastFord

I'm not comparing

I'm meerly giving Euan credit.

Chip

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Rod is doing both, he is giving euan credit for what he achieved, but putting it into context of how far away that still is from some of the other cars, simply because the thread starter doesnt seem to be aware of how big the gap is, so Rod is trying to help him see the differences.

I have seen threads on here where people have mentioned rod's car alongside the likes of the porche fff, and rod has used similar terminology to say how night and day different it is to his own car, and how his isnt even close.

Its something he has a big interest in, so if someone expresses an interest too, he is happy to spend the time talking to people about how cars compare etc, much like someone into quarter miles or laptimes at combe might do, I cant see why he seems to get such a hard time for doing so, he is only trying to educate people about a discipline he finds fascinating at the end of the day!

john

Peppa pig ses shut it or she will have you all

Neil@FastFord

I understand that.

All i said was that IMO 188mph is fast in a Saph, and that i bet most people wouldn't care if it took a few seconds longer to get there....

Unless an opinon poll proves me wrong, i stand by that.

I think most would be thrilled to have a car capable of those speeds on a small runway. That's all.

Neil@FastFord

FUCKIN PMSL!!!!!!

Did NOT expect to see the Pig!!

timrud

You could of put some make up on John before posting a picture of yourself

P_is_for_Paul

Brandy would kick peppa pigs ass. She has the ninja skills