coco16i

Have bought a 2.8 Capri with a fooked engine and been offered a 24v Cosworth Granada for very little money and thinking about using the engine from the Granada for the Capri.

Just wondered if anyone has done a conversion like this and could maybe give me some advice about how i can get it done. Its mainly the wiring side of things im looking for info on like how much of the granada loom do i need to use and what extra wires do i need to put in and where do they go etc etc.


Cheers peeps.

steves24V's

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I started puting a 24v in a saff but gave up when it got to the hard bit (the wiring) my mate's now bought it from me and doing it him self and after he got all the granny loom laid out in the garden (you need somewhere big) and sorted out it did't look too bad there's two main plugs that you need to wire into the new car but don't ask me where they got don't think he's got that far, this is it so far:

dojj

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the one you want is www.fordpower.org.uk or the like
everything is on there

what you will also need is another gearbox on the ready, because the type 9 will break

which means you will need to find a 2.9 manual flywheel, bolts and rwd mt75 gearbox, rocking horse unles you mate the 4wd bit with the 2wd bit

it's all explained there

col cos1

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i bought an xr4x4 already done,went very well

my mate started 1 and sold before tackling the wiring too

keep it rwd though mate thats what i would of liked

The Youth.

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I did the conversion this year the story is here:

https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...966&highlight=

mark24v wiring on here did the wiring for me

steve

cossie04

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Did mine too. He`s your man for the wiring...

geoffxr4

There was a site with everything listed on relating to how to carry out the conversion. I thought it was mad old buggers site but Dojj can probably confirm/deny this. Or was it stu's?

I've got jimboxr4x4's converted sierra now he's upgraded to a cossie. Very nice it is too....

The Youth.

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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/xrcosworth/

http://www.maddoldbugger.supanet.com/home.html

there you go m8

steve

Jim Galbally

deffo contact mark 24v wiring, he makes it look SOOOO easy.
which reminds me, really must ring him up and ask how he's getting on at some oint, aint seen the guy in about a year

coco16i

Cheers for all the info guys but has anyone actually done this conversion with a Capri, all the one's im looking at seem to be sierra's and they have used the existing 4x4 gearbox !!!


Will the original gearbox in the capri fit onto the 24v engine ??

The Youth.

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you can use the type 9 (capri) box it does fit straight on but at 200 bhp it is right on it's limit!

steve

Jim Galbally

it WILL fit

it'll then explode a few months later



if you take a 2WD DOHC MT75 gearbox, and a 4x4 V6 MT75 Gearox, you can put the 2 together and build a 2WD V6 MT75 gearbox.

with both boxes you'll have all the parts, so you just need to pay the labour from a gearbox place to do the work.

www.gearboxman.co.uk does supply these gearboxes complete too

The Youth.

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capri fitting info here

http://www.zyworld.com/caprisport/1_24V_Cosworth.htm

steve

coco16i

If i use the original type 9 box what do i need to do with regards to the speed sensor ???

geoffxr4

my mates got one in a mk3 cortina with a type 9 gearbox and everythings ok in it but i think some of the cortina gearboxes were beefier than others (i.e. 2.0 vs 1.6). Might be the same in teh capri, but if it's a 2.8 then it shld be fine i wld think. My dad's got a type nine in his westfield too i think, which puts out similar power and has been fine.

jonnyboy

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this is the one i did. i do miss her

coco16i

Thats what i was hoping to hear !!!!


My days of driving like a maniac are long gone so dont plan to thrash the shit out of this thing so hope the box stands up to the lashings of lazy torque its going to get pushed through it instead of being ragged stupid through the gears taking off from the lights !!!!

Jimboxr4x4

Its worth using an MT75 if you can though as you will always be worried about driving it hard, and you will drive it hard at some point

The 24v is a good conversion geoffxr4's 24v is faster than my cossie to about 50 mph by a couple of car lengths.

robrs2

Not needed, non of the emissions stuff is needed either.

BOA Granada is the easy route. The enigne loome will plug into a late model 2.9 efi (ones with out airflow meters)

Built mine with a BOA


Then knocked out the big ends and fitted a BOB Nice motor and revs like fuck. But it runs on the BOA loom and ecu

Cawood

i've wanted to do this conversion for a while now, but i dont know shit so would have to pay someone to do it

better still coco, you do it then sell it to me when your bored

start up a build/resto thread to keep us all updated

i want a capri

RS500/364

got a spare 2.8 here on ebay atm

MWF

Is the type-9 destruction info verified or just rumour mill stuff?

Just that I ran a type-9 in a 2.8 turbo and 3.1 conversion, both supposed to be 200hbp and neither spat the gearbox out.

cossie04

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Seen loads of type 9`s cog it with 24v`s.

A good strong type 9 could possibly last, depends how heavy your right foot is

dojj

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you can get strengthening kits for the type 9 but it's right on the limit of it's acceptable power with 200 brake or so running through it

the mt75 conversion is easy but you do get shit ratio's to make up for the beefier internals

and i've seen plenty of type 9's laid waste by the 24V, even the 2.8's would eventually kill them

BillyCabrio

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Now that looks quite cool

Lo@der

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Have this laying in wait for the same conversion since I put a rod through the side on the way to National Day.

bj928

if you want to fit a 24v in a capri its as easy as anything, use the 2.8i capri flywheel, clutch ( i'd fit a new one while engine and box are apart), engine mounts and gearbox, then send you loom to mark 24v wiring, the only thing that is a slight problem is the exhausts, granada downpipes would need modding, thats it, the 24v is basicly the same block as the 2.8i so its a straight swop.

cossie4i+

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I only killed one in 7 years.

Used it at the Pod a few times as well, but i never used to do doughnuts or anything silly.

Steve.

Fil

wiring is was the easy part, only 12-15 wires to splice into the car.

the rest is just nuts and bolts.

to be fair there is quite a bit to it, but mainy a case of know which bits you need of which car, as in engine mounts, power stearing conections,

been a long time since i did it tho.

robrs2

Type 9's are ok but a high mileage one will not last. As long as the bearings are renewed it will hold up ok. And the ratios are much better than the mt75.

col cos1

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get a 2.8 bell housing and fit a t5 job done

mark_24v_wiring

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I like the way half of you lot are recomending me for the wiring lol.
Any one would think i knew a thing or 2 about 24v's pmsl.
Seriously fit the 24v you will love every moment of it well worth it over a std 2.8

mark_24v_wiring

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Not as easy to get as you think ask bj928 he may sell his he is hanging on to like mad lol

robrs2

That will not work if its the cast steel one.

The bell housing from a 2.8 4x4 is the one to get, its alloy. The back of it needs to be cut off and an alloy plate made to fit the T5 box. The weld it to the bell housing and job done.

AjitDhillon

HI everyone,

Does anyone have an air flow sensor please for a BOA 2.9 V6 Cosworth