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02-12-2009, 11:41 AM
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I understand that.
All i said was that IMO 188mph is fast in a Saph, and that i bet most people wouldn't care if it took a few seconds longer to get there....
Unless an opinon poll proves me wrong, i stand by that.
I think most would be thrilled to have a car capable of those speeds on a small runway. That's all.
All i said was that IMO 188mph is fast in a Saph, and that i bet most people wouldn't care if it took a few seconds longer to get there....
Unless an opinon poll proves me wrong, i stand by that.
I think most would be thrilled to have a car capable of those speeds on a small runway. That's all.
02-12-2009, 11:57 AM
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Talking of memories me and Tim once got this spannish guy who spoke no english to say give it some barry, we were just saying it to each other and after an hour he blurted it out.
Random and nothing to do with this post at all.
Random and nothing to do with this post at all.
02-12-2009, 11:59 AM
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Can i be rather silly in GD & start quoting facts, Data logs actually I got them from mags etc. Sadly I collect them 
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You quote Euans car so my answer is about his chosen discipline Topspeed & how it compares to big budget cars.
His 188 mph was reached in 37 seconds compare that with Daves who reached 190 in 27 secs or indeed Andrews 196 reached in 26secs. Martin has hit 200 in 35secs & mine in 25.
Euans was a great effort on his budget & a consistent performer who i had great respect for because he put it on the line, but not fast in real terms or even close sorry but you must use facts not guess work.
You can see where the money goes getting from 188 in 37 to 200 in 25.
I trust only facts will be used in your answer.
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.You quote Euans car so my answer is about his chosen discipline Topspeed & how it compares to big budget cars.
His 188 mph was reached in 37 seconds compare that with Daves who reached 190 in 27 secs or indeed Andrews 196 reached in 26secs. Martin has hit 200 in 35secs & mine in 25.
Euans was a great effort on his budget & a consistent performer who i had great respect for because he put it on the line, but not fast in real terms or even close sorry but you must use facts not guess work.
You can see where the money goes getting from 188 in 37 to 200 in 25.
I trust only facts will be used in your answer.
.can someone explain to me why,
martins car did 200 mph in 35 secs
rods car did 201.8 it in 25 sec's
did they brake at different times?
02-12-2009, 12:28 PM
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Rod's did 206.1mph so much quicker than martin's did 200.1 mph, that if you were stood at the end of the runway watching them, Rod would reach you when martin was only a little over halfway down the runway still.
MASSIVE difference between the 2 cars, and looking at a difference of "only" 6mph, really doesnt get across just how much so!
02-12-2009, 12:35 PM
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02-12-2009, 04:51 PM
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Too many posts.. I need a life!!
I also thought he went real slow through the gears, would have thought that would have made some difference. Think there's a video somewhere of his runs.
02-12-2009, 04:53 PM
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Rod's cars best speed ever officially recorded was 206.1 and in the pissing wet on 5th gear it did 206.0
If euan had been a massive 2 seconds quicker to 60mph, its unlikely to result in even 1mph extra on the top speed as you are only gaining a few dozen feet realistically!
In fact, so much so that if Dave fitted a RWD box to YUM, the lost traction would be more than cancelled out by the lower transmission losses, so of the two cars I suspect it was Euans that had the advantage if anything mate!
02-12-2009, 05:08 PM
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i dont think its like a 10sec car to a 15 sec car on the 1/4 mile more like a mid 11sec to a 10sec dead just my opinion tho.plus the 1/4 mile is very much traction related top speed is just power .
02-12-2009, 05:15 PM
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Can i be rather silly in GD & start quoting facts, Data logs actually I got them from mags etc. Sadly I collect them .
You quote Euans car so my answer is about his chosen discipline Topspeed & how it compares to big budget cars.
His 188 mph was reached in 37 seconds compare that with Daves who reached 190 in 27 secs or indeed Andrews 196 reached in 26secs. Martin has hit 200 in 35secs & mine in 25.
Euans was a great effort on his budget & a consistent performer who i had great respect for because he put it on the line, but not fast in real terms or even close sorry but you must use facts not guess work.
You can see where the money goes getting from 188 in 37 to 200 in 25.
I trust only facts will be used in your answer..
.You quote Euans car so my answer is about his chosen discipline Topspeed & how it compares to big budget cars.
His 188 mph was reached in 37 seconds compare that with Daves who reached 190 in 27 secs or indeed Andrews 196 reached in 26secs. Martin has hit 200 in 35secs & mine in 25.
Euans was a great effort on his budget & a consistent performer who i had great respect for because he put it on the line, but not fast in real terms or even close sorry but you must use facts not guess work.
You can see where the money goes getting from 188 in 37 to 200 in 25.
I trust only facts will be used in your answer.
.you need to get off your soap box and appreciate the effort other people put into their cars!
euan's car done top speed runs, track days, thrashes etc.... fantastic alrounder and still 188mph, i think thats a hell of an achievement on a budget.
but as per usual you and chip will compare every other tuner under the sun to cars fitted with MAD motors
nowhere did euan quote that he was going to crack 200 mph, go faster than rod's car, do it in a certain time. so why compare? to big up your own car that hasn't turned a wheel in how long?
what you lack in height you dont make up for in common sense or decency.
02-12-2009, 08:38 PM
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02-12-2009, 09:09 PM
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02-12-2009, 09:26 PM
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02-12-2009, 09:55 PM
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Im glad someone picked upon that LOL
anyone that was there that day will remember the problems I had trying to get round the corner at the bottom of brunters and get any kinda traction until 4TH gear!
PF DAve has videos but I have never seen them
Dave and Andy just came round the corner and fucked off downt the runway getting FULL traction straight out he corner giving them a much greater distance to do their run.
In the start of this thread chip says my car is fairly quick yet in another thread talking about YUM he says a car that hasd 500 ATW is amazing quick!
Chip mine had 505 ATW LOL
anyway hope all you guys are having fun arguing about the same stuff folk argued about when I first joned PF over 5 years ago.
you will all realise, as I have that there is much more to life than spending telephone numbers on old fords!
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02-12-2009, 09:58 PM
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CHOP, head gasket went on first run! LOL
in true scottish commited stlye I did two further runs getting quicker and quicker each time!
That engine did 188.1 with a craked block and fucked head gasket!
in true scottish commited stlye I did two further runs getting quicker and quicker each time!
That engine did 188.1 with a craked block and fucked head gasket!
02-12-2009, 11:03 PM
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Wonder what Rods engine would do if it ended up here, we'd never hear the end of it I'm sure
02-12-2009, 11:44 PM
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But anyway, like I said, even at that its a quick car, and im sure yours was too, just not in the same league as Daves on high boost or Rods
anyway hope all you guys are having fun arguing about the same stuff folk argued about when I first joned PF over 5 years ago.
you will all realise, as I have that there is much more to life than spending telephone numbers on old fords!
you will all realise, as I have that there is much more to life than spending telephone numbers on old fords!
02-12-2009, 11:55 PM
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The main reason for the difference is that rod's car is a lot faster than martin's car as it had more power.
Rod's did 206.1mph so much quicker than martin's did 200.1 mph, that if you were stood at the end of the runway watching them, Rod would reach you when martin was only a little over halfway down the runway still.
MASSIVE difference between the 2 cars, and looking at a difference of "only" 6mph, really doesnt get across just how much so!
Rod's did 206.1mph so much quicker than martin's did 200.1 mph, that if you were stood at the end of the runway watching them, Rod would reach you when martin was only a little over halfway down the runway still.
MASSIVE difference between the 2 cars, and looking at a difference of "only" 6mph, really doesnt get across just how much so!
Out of interest what was the fastest speed Rods car achieved without nitrous?
02-12-2009, 11:59 PM
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I know Rod has done ever 200mph off gas, but its never been officially recorded, so I have no specific speed to quote, it was only just over 200 though, literally by 1 or 2 mph, so barely any quicker than martins, and as it was officially timed, Rod has never "claimed" it I dont think, so not much point getting into a discussion about it, im only mentioning it cause you asked.
03-12-2009, 12:05 AM
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03-12-2009, 12:20 AM
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SCS and MAD both clearly know how to make YB's work well at this level, 2 good examples of english brilliance IMHO
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03-12-2009, 12:26 AM
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03-12-2009, 12:40 AM
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03-12-2009, 12:45 AM
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Yes, agreed & probably the only intelligent thing that will be posted on this thread.
We are heading towards being 'world people'. Nationality is such a narrow minded concept for people who really belong in the stone age (a few of whom are on this thread)
Cheers,
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We are heading towards being 'world people'. Nationality is such a narrow minded concept for people who really belong in the stone age (a few of whom are on this thread)
Cheers,
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03-12-2009, 01:15 AM
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its quite funny how theyve taken mr gallagher on as some national hero and come on here to gloat about it, like anyone gives a fuck
we all love the ag focus and love seeing andy thrash it round regardless of which side of the border its from
03-12-2009, 02:02 AM
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it was a tongue in cheek statement tbh,im just lowering myself to the level shown by some of the skirt wearing fellas
its quite funny how theyve taken mr gallagher on as some national hero and come on here to gloat about it, like anyone gives a fuck
we all love the ag focus and love seeing andy thrash it round regardless of which side of the border its from
its quite funny how theyve taken mr gallagher on as some national hero and come on here to gloat about it, like anyone gives a fuck
we all love the ag focus and love seeing andy thrash it round regardless of which side of the border its from
before anybody says it they had their reason for breaking it,a know that and tbh no matter who it is if they say they are going to do this or that then dont theres always going to be threads ending up the way they do!
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03-12-2009, 08:58 AM
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If you look, it was the original thread starter who was doing that, I just replied taking the piss, Im not actually "anti scottish" as thats where my family originate from anyway if you go back a couple of generations.
Bottom line is that Dave's engine is a fucking hell of a piece of kit and all the numptys from north of the border slagging it off havent a clue what they are talking about, if any of them had been out in the car then they would realise it does everything you would expect an engine like that to do, and they are all just chatting utter shit.
Bottom line is that Dave's engine is a fucking hell of a piece of kit and all the numptys from north of the border slagging it off havent a clue what they are talking about, if any of them had been out in the car then they would realise it does everything you would expect an engine like that to do, and they are all just chatting utter shit.
03-12-2009, 09:47 AM
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03-12-2009, 12:41 PM
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it was chip that went on about the scottish this the scottish that so obvs we will reply as is this site only for the english? and gloat that was chip and that were gloating about YUM this YUM that when really is hasnt done fuck all since this new super dooper engine has been put in
before anybody says it they had their reason for breaking it,a know that and tbh no matter who it is if they say they are going to do this or that then dont theres always going to be threads ending up the way they do!
before anybody says it they had their reason for breaking it,a know that and tbh no matter who it is if they say they are going to do this or that then dont theres always going to be threads ending up the way they do!
The engine of the new one is the same as the old one with just 2 additions
Soild lifters and GT40 turbo so really would say new superdooper, and this one was as powerfully on 1.8 bar compared to the old one at 2.6bar
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