mechanic28

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i am just trying to get my post count up in truth

RobL

also was it not a jock that signed over to the union originally all those years ago? with something like a 2-1 backing of the scottish people?

RobL

wasnt really a footie reference
more of an observation of the scottish people that follow these clubs,which happens to be quite a large number
one lot sing god save the queen wrapped in union jacks and the others sing ira songs waving irish tricolors.i mean do scottish folk really know wtf they want?

Iain Mac

This isn't politics, it's history so I'm going to reply.
The Scottish people had NO say in the Act of Union. At that time ordinary people didn't have a vote or any say in what happened, but the Lords and landowners sitting in the Scottish parliament sold out and that had the effect of bringing the Scots out on the streets, not that it had any effect.

Robert Burns wrote about the "parcel o rogues" about these aristocrats who sold their country for English gold.

MikeR

So are we any closer to agreeing ???

Mike

Lambchop

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I'll stick to my don't give a shit attitude...thanks for the post though

Chip

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Thats the attitude your forefathers had that led to you all getting sold to us as a job lot for Ł3.27 in the first place

Lambchop

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haha and i bet that was a shit load of money back then!

mechanic28

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genuine question,if you did break free would you be a republic?or would you try and trace heirs to the scottish throne?

Iain Mac

Genuine answer. The SNP have said Betty can continue. Personally, I'd rather have a republic.

As for tracing an heir to the Scottish throne, the Union of Crowns came before the Act of Union and it was the Scottish King James VI (James I of Great Britain) who took over the English crown so we don't have to look too far!

Having said that, Betty is only queen because her uncle ran off with the American divorcee - if it wasn't for that, who knows who would be on the throne now.

It's never been explained why she is styled Elizabeth II as Great Britain never had a Elizabeth I - she was only queen of England. If you look at post boxes or Royal Mail vans up here, we don't have the EIIR cypher on any of them.