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Old 17-05-2009, 09:00 PM
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Default BTCC Sierras

Is it true that some of them used live axles rather than the cambertastic irs set up?
If so, anyone got any underside pics?
Old 17-05-2009, 09:01 PM
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I know some thunder saloon Sierras used solid rear axels, but not sure if any BTCC cars did as I would have thought that was not allowed?
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no mate they did run a different set up to rad caars the egenburger cars had magnesium arms and stuff like that
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Hi Daveysaff and all,



the Group "A" sierra's were something like this ( sorry very poor photo )



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as has been said grp'a' rules dictated standard/homologated layout for the suspension. ie beam and trailing arms

love the photo andy.. i'll never see enough photos of your car

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can we have more photos andy
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plus the floor was raised to lower the car to not give stupid angles

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nice car that is andy couldnt beleave how good the paint inside the car was when you showed us round it

has gareth still got the escort to
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Originally Posted by Nemesis,
plus the floor was raised to lower the car to not give stupid angles
never heard of that one..
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Originally Posted by Nemesis,
plus the floor was raised to lower the car to not give stupid angles

is that like on martins car ? i didnt think they did it to all the touring cars ?

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Originally Posted by J1mbo
is that like on martins car ? i didnt think they did it to all the touring cars ?

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yes jim all egenburger cars were done that way floor raised by 72mm at the rear iirc

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which part of the floor was raised.?

i know eggenburger used to mod the arches, thats what got them disqualified at bathurst'87.
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Originally Posted by philram
which part of the floor was raised.?

i know eggenburger used to mod the arches, thats what got them disqualified at bathurst'87.
basicly the all the rear end floor phil and they also tubed the rear arches
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ill try and get pics asap
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Originally Posted by Nemesis,
ill try and get pics asap
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Looking forward to the pics too
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Originally Posted by Nemesis,
basicly the all the rear end floor phil and they also tubed the rear arches

All the gen BTCC sierras i have ever seen have never had the floor etc changed

this would have had them banned

the only cars that i thought had tubbed rear arches and modded floors were thunder saloon sierras

Im looking forward to the piccs tho as i have never seen this before ,

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Didnt Rouse lift the full floor pan in one car ????
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The egmo cars lost Bathurst for a minor mod to the arches so I doubt such a radical thing as moving the floor would have been allowed, never heard of it myself so I also look forward to the pics
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
The egmo cars lost Bathurst for a minor mod to the arches so I doubt such a radical thing as moving the floor would have been allowed, never heard of it myself so I also look forward to the pics
Didn't Ford get caught out with the arch extensions they put on the 3-door/RS500? Originally I thought they added them so they could cut the arch lips away behind allowing them to run much wider wheel tyre combos.......

.....but just before they went racing the authorities changed the rules slightly saying you couldn't make metalwork changes to the car meaning that they couldn't take advantage of the arch extensions?
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Interesting thread so far peeps, keep the pics coming

If anyones got any detail of the thundersaloon saph undersides it would be interesting to see
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Originally Posted by Mike1
Didn't Ford get caught out with the arch extensions they put on the 3-door/RS500? Originally I thought they added them so they could cut the arch lips away behind allowing them to run much wider wheel tyre combos.......

.....but just before they went racing the authorities changed the rules slightly saying you couldn't make metalwork changes to the car meaning that they couldn't take advantage of the arch extensions?
it was along those lines, the egmo cars had not been altered just for Bathurst and had run that way in the previous rounds of the WTCC but the ATCC read the rules differently to the rest of the ruling bodies and took away the win from the Sierras after the race, lot of local politics involved, they didnt like overseas teams winning the great race.

Egmo adjusted the cars after that, they had even had slightly wider lips to the outer rims made for the BBS wheels to widen them that were not available to the other teams.

It was a grey area and the rules were then firmed up for the later seasons to prevent it.
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
the ATCC read the rules differently to the rest of the ruling bodies and took away the win from the Sierras after the race, lot of local politics involved, they didnt like overseas teams winning the great race.
I remember Dick Johnson wasn't the most popular guy choosing to run a 4-pot turbo rather than a 'Proper V8 Ford'......until they realised he was the best chance of stopping the GT-Rs from winning....or at least giving them a hard time!

At least the Cosworth was a Ford to the Aussie crowds.......the Nissans were never popular with the die-hards on the hill.
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#anorak mode on#
bathurst 87 was basically a big shit storm..

to cut a very long story short all the teams were told by CAMS (the aussie version of the msa) a few months before to put there cars right before they arrived at the mountain. most of the teams didnt think CAMS would go through with it as they had the weight of the FIA behind them and expected CAMS to turn a blind eye like all the other local govening bodies had running wtcc races up to this event.

CAMS kept to there word and kicked the burger cars out of 1st and 2nd resulting in a win for local hero brocky in a holden.. if they didnt get them on the arches they had suspected illegal fuel in reserve too..

all this also resulted in djr bringing a car to the 88tt at silverstone as revenge and blowing everyone away on outright speed..

#anorak mode off#
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