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Old 05-12-2004, 01:00 AM
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Default 200SX turbos? Anyone had/got one? What did ya think?

as title really, as I'm ditching the 3i soon and saving a bit of money to buy something a bit more interesting was thinking off a 200SX turbo cus you know they come with loads of nice extras and 15 year old fords dont
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They drift extremly well
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Originally Posted by Azrael
They drift extremly well
sold me then
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lol my mates got an ex drift 200SX, jus re-built the engine with some nice goodies, cool car, stripped out, bucket seat etc, coilovers with adjustable camber etc, i like it
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I like them
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actually... 300ZX's are just as cheap....
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Originally Posted by MadMac
actually... 300ZX's are just as cheap....

HEard they are not that good cars as 200SX's. Expensive maitenance and not so much more car for a lot of more money put into it. And as far as I heard they don't handle that well either.

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Originally Posted by MadMac
actually... 300ZX's are just as cheap....

dont buy one of them you dick head, shit cars from what i heard, 200sx's are ment to be a quality car was thinking of getting one myself



im still pissed
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im still pissed
I fookin am
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yeah but the 200sx is an inline four....

Still look awsome thou



300ZX are V6 twin turbos..... hmmmm V6
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But this supra is pure sex
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Already said on this site!i would rather have a 200sx over a cossie! younger,more goodies,same size engine!

same money too!
just a case that i dont have the money! considering i would only have a S14A
If ya wanna know about 200sx's

give christian or gary @ apt a call! they are the 200sx daddies! seen it with me own eyes!
Old 05-12-2004, 05:41 AM
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they are great cars, very good value for money with modern comfort if you go for the S14a model. the S13 is a 1.8 turbo, the S14/14a is a 2.0 turbo.

They are quite easy to tune, mine is running 290BHP/280Lbft on stock ECU and injectors. They have a hopeless intercooler but you can change this for a front mount for under £500. You'll have plenty of sideways fun.
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I was going to buy a rwd cossie after I sold my old rst but in the end chose a S13 200sx. Wicked cars and as said hang so so well Put out 270bhp@1 bar at SCA with just front mount, chip and the usual zorst and filter. And its only a 1.8

S14a's and S15's look the best imo. Have a look on sxoc.com.
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I've got a 94 200sx that we use for track days and its been great.

As standard they are very very average but once the suspension has been improved they are quite good fun.

Definitely not as tuenable as a Cosworth, if you want big bhp it'll cost a lot and then you'll have to modify lots of other things as the standard car is not designed to cope.

The S13 models (1.8) suffer badly with worn bottom ends and rust and have sloppy suspension and poor brakes. The S14 is the one to go for if you can.

The best thing about them is jap reliability.

Our one has been mildly tuned, has very little lag, big brakes, lowered stiffened suspension, decat exhaust, Yokohama A048 tyres, harnesses etc and is very very good on the track. Eg at Bedford and Donnington was quicker than a lot of very quick cars. Surprisingly neutral for a rwd car as well.[img][/img]
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If u moaned about spending money on ur 3i then i wouldnt even look at a 300

200sx's are cool though.
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Currently looking at an S15 as they were sold from Nissan here so plenty available. Either that or an R34 I think.
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Driven a couple of s13s. Why people bother with RSTs when you can get them so cheap these days is beyond me. If I had driven one before I had mine I would never have bought the RST
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Would LOVE to have an S15 or an S14a
Old 05-12-2004, 10:35 AM
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ive had a s14 200sx, nice comfy car. just wasnt a cossie though
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speak to gary at APT, he really loves these cars

and speak to steveN as he loves all rwd cars , but knows his shit about em too
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had a s13 for a few years 300 brake a real weapon.


not many cossys kept up with it. gps at 168mph
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we get a few through the auctions i work at, can get an ok one for about 300 quid or so!autos for 200!
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Just lookin on auto trader there are some 14a turbos going for around 3k Thats 190odd bhp for the price of an RST

As for tuning I have heard stories of 500 bhp 14a's. Don't wanna know how expensive that is to do thou

cheers guys useful info.
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Gary's S13 (1.8) was 450 @ the wheels. It did 172mph at TOTB2. We do loads of these and are very well known within the SXOC. We have recently built and mapped Bren's S13, which has just made 400+bhp on his 'Tiny' injectors and are due to remap it soon for the 900cc jobbies.

If you want a 200 for not alot of money, we have a 1992 J Reg S13 which we have just tidied up. We have fitted new Big Ends, Cut the valves in, fitted new Head Gasket and Cam Belt, Converted it to T28, Remapped it and fitted a Bigger Intercooler. We will also probably fit 17" Wheels and lower it a bit.

I agree that the S14a/S15 are the nicer ones, but then you have to pay more for them. Decent S14a's really start at £5000 plus.

Also, from a tuning point of view, we do a Fast Road engine for the S14/S14a, which is around £3200 fitted. This would be fully rebuilt, with all new bearings/gaskets/seals, Wiseco Forged Pistons, Metal Head Gasket etc. With the right choice of bits, this engine could be safely tuned to 350bhp once you have added a GT28 and a Fuel Controller of some kind for reasonable money.

Take a look at our Trade section on SXOC for more info!!
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been there done that whole 200sx thing - went back to shocky sierras after the SX breaking sideways at about 100mph
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there nice cars. me and my mate rented one from budget about 4yrs ago. we got 147mph on the m40 and that was standard. ooh sunday nites on the m40 top speeds and drifting in denham brings back memories with budget cars
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diamonds, wanna get one to relive them memories
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s14a's ROCK!!!

Wicked cars and wicked value for money
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screw you then
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Originally Posted by Porkie
s14a's ROCK!!!

Wicked cars and wicked value for money
I do remember our conversation
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wicked cars do it
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Originally Posted by COSSIENUTS
wicked cars do it

only coz you can drift them
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Having said that, one word of warning.......

Anyone that goes from FWD to powerful RWD needs to treat it with respect. I guarantee that if you don't, then it will end up in a hedge. We have all seen it happen when going from RST to Cossie, the same applies when buying a 200SX.
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christian, i dont think thats true, i know ill ask lewis and see what he thinks
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The S14 is good, newer, etc, but would have a decent S13 over it
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Bought my S13 in July, and still love driving it even at standard power (170bhp). Have done around 5500 miles in it, and its been very reliable for me.

They are a LOT of fun, really slidable and I think are brilliant for learning RWD (if you are sensible about it of course)!!
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S13s are nice car dead cheap for what you get, but not a patch on a S14a (S14s aew nice, just when you sit them next to the S14a they look too plain), id have a S14a over a Saff anyday, and i really like saffs.

Ive driven lots of S13s and S14s, esp modded S14a's as lots of mates have em.

Best value for money car there is in that price range.

S14a is the one to get IMO, Fast, and with some basic mods, VERY fast, spot on brakes, and fookin awesome handling (All SXs seem to handle amazing, but from my experience S14a's turn you into a RWD driving god from nothing, serious, you can hang em sideways like an idiot far better than any other car ive driven before, and a mate of mine went from a shinky Primera straight to one and was broadside everywhere with ease straight away )
S14a's look quality too, try n get the touring with black leather n nicer side skirts too, pretty common, evil headlights n spot on bodykit as std, jus change the wank std rims n get rid of any orange bits of indicators (if its a black one, best colour, just get the tint spray out, job done) and they look mint. 19s go on with no arch mods too if u fancy it.
Main thing is FULL turbo back zorst and a decent front mount intercooler and its a LOT faster and freer revving, as both the std items are piss poor. Then cone filter and 1bar boost and you get at least 270bhp (no chip) and belive me, its fast, faster than a stg1 cossie and so much better looking n handling n stopping.

I love em.

S15s are the bollocks but the chances of your getting one is dead slim as they rare as and expensive compared to 13/14.

300ZXs are tho.
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ok so it looks like the opion is....

14a 200SX rock

300ZX stay away.

I even went on a 300ZX forum and this is how the thread has gone so far

Originally Posted by MadMac
Have been a loyal Ford boy for three years now... but tbh for the same money I can get a decent Jap car I would get an below average Cosworth for.

So I'm looking into some turbo charged ricers. Choices are down to a 14a 200SX, MR2 Turbo or a 300ZX twin turbo. All of which I could get for about £4k.

Really tempted to get the 300ZX thou as its V6 but been hearing that they suffer from reliabilaty problems.

Though this would be the best place to be to get a (while maybe slightly biased view) a vew from people that have them.

Fire away convince me to get one
and these are the responces

Originally Posted by Chri
Wellcome here

I think you forgot the "pocketrocket" Pulsar/Sunny GTI-R
The GTI-R's are really cheap to get in the UK at the moment, just look on Ebay.co.uk or the GTIROC board

greets chri
Wekk thats a good start then, ask about 300ZX and get info on GTI-R

then this one

Originally Posted by walksonland
If you get a 300ZX in the UK check the front cross member for rust and if you are not very rich you need to be a DIY mechanic.

At the price they are now going for you will get a lot of car for your money. I have two (one is bent got it for the engine to do a big turbo job) and paid less than £3000 for them both.


not exactly convincing is it

So now its down too....



better get saving, have a grand left to save


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