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Old 04-01-2009, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Didnt they only make a few RS1800s in red cause most of them or all of them were white.
i have a very old magazine with a rs1800 for sale with a rs nosecone front end, not many people know about that car, well they do now, also the red rs1800 belonged to a geezer in the rsoc, 15 years ago you would of heard of him as he was about all over the place, he and his dad had a few tasty rs's that won concourse
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the orion has all the same holes in the bulk head for the RST ecus and rear wiper wash pipe!not very interesting lol
Old 04-01-2009, 11:50 PM
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best/geekiest thread ever
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fact, fords that have stopped being made and are late registered like j reg escort rs turbos,g reg xr2's, d reg grannie mk2's,d reg mk3 escort rs turbos are unwanted cars that ford couldn't sell, they are not special in any way shape or form, there was quite a few 2wd sierra cosworths on hreg
i even saw f reg capri 280's, k reg tranny mk3's not new gen,
basically look at rs200's the first ones were b reg's,you could get them new in 92 because they were unwanted. nowt special about metal lying around unwanted imo
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I originally posted about early editions but yeh as cozzfather says,late ones are generally old stock which they have been unable to sell hence late reg.My friend bought a brand new 2.8i special Capri in 1988 which was E plate.
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tell you what you don't see many of......... f reg xr2i's you could get them bitd,before they dissolved into dust
Old 05-01-2009, 07:38 AM
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Very interesting posts here.Cozfather you konw your stuff.
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
fact, fords that have stopped being made and are late registered like j reg escort rs turbos,g reg xr2's, d reg grannie mk2's,d reg mk3 escort rs turbos are unwanted cars that ford couldn't sell, they are not special in any way shape or form, there was quite a few 2wd sierra cosworths on hreg
i even saw f reg capri 280's, k reg tranny mk3's not new gen,
basically look at rs200's the first ones were b reg's,you could get them new in 92 because they were unwanted. nowt special about metal lying around unwanted imo
I work with a guy who was sales Manger of Bristol Street ford in Birmingham, in the mid 70's to late 80's and he recalls registering a load of Mk1 fiesta Pop 950's on a B reg (1985) to a leasing company - Ford Motor Co. had "found" a load of old stock unregistered and did a deal to shift them.

He remembers the Birmingham superprix being held, cos the Teams with Group A RS500's used the workshops after hours and over night to prep the cars. The dealership was open and still selling cars whilst the race was going on!

I asked him if he had any photos from "back in the day" but he never saw any point in them, as it was much like any other day he says.
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There are more Cosworths nicked than made.
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
AVA turbo charged a mk3 escort before ford did
Its still to be finnished
Old 05-01-2009, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Benni
Ford developed and own the patent for the heated front winscreen. This is why only Ford have it in their cars.

Benni.
I have a heated front screen in the 'A' Class merc
Old 05-01-2009, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbocabbie
I have a heated front screen in the 'A' Class merc
our landrover freelander has a heated screen but landrover is/was owned by ford
Old 05-01-2009, 09:59 AM
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the patent was for only 20yrs (i think) then anyone can do it
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Originally Posted by carlo
Its still to be finnished


In serious though, Euan, do you know when this was exactly? Im sure Ford Turbo'd their XR3 in the early-mid 80's for rallying.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
The new fiesta has a fiat petrol engine in and a vauxhall/fiat deisel engine.
ditto for the new KA

Originally Posted by Benni
Ford developed and own the patent for the heated front winscreen. This is why only Ford have it in their cars.

Benni.

Ah, i was under the impression that they used/bought the idea from Boeing, which used it already in their 747s. Anyway, as far as i know Ford was the first to fit it to cars.

Originally Posted by Benni
Any mk1 Ford Focus key will unlock any mk1 Ford Focus.

Benni.
i'd have to disagree to that, don't you mean every classic T-xxxxxx key will LOCK every other ford with that type of key?

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Old 05-01-2009, 11:03 AM
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I have a 57 plate fiesta 1.6 tdci & it has the same engine as the new mini cooper d
think some french cars use the same engine as well
Old 05-01-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Benni
Any mk1 Ford Focus key will unlock any mk1 Ford Focus.

Benni.
Really????
Old 05-01-2009, 11:12 AM
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st170 box is same as mini (generation 1)

Fiesta 1.4/1.6 diesels are shared with Pug 206/7's

Mondeo is a mazda 6 with nicer trim
Focus is Mazda 3 with nicer trim

Yamaha developed the 1.25/1.4/1.6/1.7 Zetec-SE ( now duratec ) engines
Mazda and Ford jointly developed the 2.0/2.3 petrol duratecs
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Originally Posted by AGAR-COSWORTH


In serious though, Euan, do you know when this was exactly? Im sure Ford Turbo'd their XR3 in the early-mid 80's for rallying.
Ford turbo'd some xr3's for the 81 season for the escort turbo challenge - it used a t3 and a blow through carb

Would like to know about AVA also
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Ford placed 10th overall at the Monte Carlo Rally with a BDA engined FWD fiesta driven by Ari Vatenen
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in fact

http://uk.geocities.com/martin.essam....com/rally.htm

Very interesting

John Taylor said the BDA fiesta was a great car and it was as quick as a gr4 rs1800 on both loose and tarmac
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Originally Posted by orion_crazy_carl
the orion has all the same holes in the bulk head for the RST ecus and rear wiper wash pipe!not very interesting lol
That's cos every 80s Escort shell is the same regardless of model....... well apart from the obvious stuff like different shaped arses and numbers of entry points
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
fact, fords that have stopped being made and are late registered like j reg escort rs turbos,g reg xr2's, d reg grannie mk2's,d reg mk3 escort rs turbos are unwanted cars that ford couldn't sell, they are not special in any way shape or form, there was quite a few 2wd sierra cosworths on hreg
i even saw f reg capri 280's, k reg tranny mk3's not new gen,
basically look at rs200's the first ones were b reg's,you could get them new in 92 because they were unwanted. nowt special about metal lying around unwanted imo

I've always found it funny that these late registered cars are so sought after.

The actual reason of their desirabilty in later life is due to them originally being unwanted when they were new!
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Originally Posted by buzznwood
The only yellow escort cosworth I've heard about was the proposed acropolis limited edition, it was normal escort cosworth rather than a 24v rwd version and was yellow all over, including the wheels with black tail lights, looked really nice in the pictures.
http://www.rscosworth.it/acropolis.jpg

And a few other different Escos here

http://www.rscosworth.it/ford_escort_cosworth.htm
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there's a car sales near me (trade center wales) an the owner is a ford fan he has a range of old fords inc a red saff an he "supposedly" has diana's car jow much truth is in that i dnt know but he said he has pic's of the car with her an history again "suposedly" but has a far few mint mk3 an 4 escorts rs1600i's rs turbos black 3dr cos. i'll have to get pics..
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In 1945-1946 when the war was over, Ford was about to buy the car factories in KdF(Stad des Kdf-Wagens, wich became Volkswagen, and the city now known as Wolfsburg) But withdrew since Russia still held foot not too far away in Northeast Germany, and were afraid Russia had other plans. ( cold war was to take shape )

and offtopic
Now there was this Brittish officer Ivan Hirst. He actually did love the little car which gave a big stirr. A brittish officer fell in love on a product of their biggest enemy. He let the factory be renovated und Brittish supervision and started to produce and sell the beetle. And in 1948 the German technicus Heinrich Nordhoff became general director of Volkswagenwerke by advise of Hirst. And in 1949 the Brittish goverment gave the factory back to Germany.

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my genuine mk4 XR3i is on a C-plate, i'm only the third owner - it came from Essex and i bought it from a mate who had bought it from his Aunt
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Ken Block has probably driven a ford
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Originally Posted by Puma_dal
There were 2 R reg prototypes stolen, not any of the 500 'real' ones. I know where they BOTH are as well
Any pics of them ? or info on them ?
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nowt special about late registrations?

my estate was the dealer demo for 6 months before it was actually registered, build date of june 1989, registered date of december 1989
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Remember watching something a while ago and the F1 driver eddy irvine use to know people who use to work in ford that got discount on cossie's and he use to buy them off them and sell them on for a profit
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should also point out due to the recession ( there was one in 92 don't ya know) loads of ford rs's got left unwanted due to insurance premiums going sky higfh, i remember 3dr cosworths for 4-5 grand and really nice 3 year old sierra sapph cosworths for 3.5 grand in the trade, the cars were like 15 grand the year before on the forecourts, unless you were trade you couldn't get insurance.

and so this meant that ford had cars that were old spec and lying around being registered as new cars to people who did not know about this, every so often you would hear about people who bought "new" 4x4 sierra cosworths in 93 and found out they were 91-92 models.
also one other funny thing was ford knocked 5 grand off the price of a brand new sierra cosworth 4x4 in 92,they were 19,995 and in the autotrader and motoring news there was used ones for more than ford were selling brand fire new uns.
that fooked the job up no probs.
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Originally Posted by rinus_2005


i'd have to disagree to that, don't you mean every classic T-xxxxxx key will LOCK every other ford with that type of key?
Also opens it on the Ford Focus. Not as simple as push and turn but with a very simple sequence it will open. This is a fact. As for the boeing and the windscreen, you could be right, all I know is, like you say, Ford where the first.

Benni.
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Originally Posted by smila
any pics of the black s1's?isnt Diana's in a museum?and one was smashed up?
have a look on seriesoneturbo.co.uk,that tells you everything about the red,black and grey rs turbos,and also the cats eyes car,and the d plates,the owner of the 2 black ones painted by ford are on there,dianas car was having a restoration,very intresting site regarding series one turbos and their history.
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The RS200's were made in the same factory as Reliant Robins !
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Nowt flash with h reg 2wd sapph's, just means they were late registered. No one must of wanted them. Same with l reg 4x4's etc
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Originally Posted by coziboy
the f at the beginning of ford stands for f
afpmsl
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A few people on here kn ow there stuff,nice one is there any more.
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The mk3 mondeo shared the same V6 englne with jaguar so why did jaguars V6 have a metal water pump propeller and the mondeo engine didnt.


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