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Old 19-10-2021, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Incredible what these s and j motors can withstand it's what I want in the future that's for sure

I think I read 2.4 is possible while keeping good rod angle for a high power, high response engine
Not sure on all the technical angles ect. I know they are made for 1000+ horses and use arrow rods and crank and omega 92mm pistons for the 2.4. if I was ever to afford a Cossie I'd love a full s&j engine.
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Pretty sure I read that Ken blocks car is 700hp and the 1000+hp claim was just for publicity by Ken. Things have moved on loads. Scs built the first true 1000hp engine in the uk that been proven by being raced and took lots of abuse.
Daves escort is 830hp on pump fuel and used all the time reliably on the road. Few claimed massive power in foreign countries using s&j blocks, like 1300hp 7 second capri in Greece .
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
Pretty sure I read that Ken blocks car is 700hp and the 1000+hp claim was just for publicity by Ken. Things have moved on loads. Scs built the first true 1000hp engine in the uk that been proven by being raced and took lots of abuse.
Daves escort is 830hp on pump fuel and used all the time reliably on the road. Few claimed massive power in foreign countries using s&j blocks, like 1300hp 7 second capri in Greece .
Recent one I looked at about Mr blocks Cossie was 1000bhp and 700ftlb. I think Dave has to have one of the best all rounders in my opinion like you said power and reliable.and if that's true about 1300 that's insane power. Non related I did see a 3300bhp viper

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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
Pretty sure I read that Ken blocks car is 700hp and the 1000+hp claim was just for publicity by Ken. Things have moved on loads. Scs built the first true 1000hp engine in the uk that been proven by being raced and took lots of abuse.
Daves escort is 830hp on pump fuel and used all the time reliably on the road. Few claimed massive power in foreign countries using s&j blocks, like 1300hp 7 second capri in Greece .
Which Dave ? Cossie Dave ?
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Which Dave ? Cossie Dave ?
yes Cossie Dave, he’s at 830 on pump now and that’s on an engine dyno to.
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Originally Posted by Lee read
Recent one I looked at about Mr blocks Cossie was 1000bhp and 700ftlb. I think Dave has to have one of the best all rounders in my opinion like you said power and reliable.and if that's true about 1300 that's insane power. Non related I did see a 3300bhp viper
can’t find much info but it did have a smallish turbo for an engine that would be 1000hp.
Yeah daves car is incredible to make that power and still be used on the road all the time.
Theres a few in Greece and Malta that claim silly power but they do back it up, imagine the capri has to be close to what their quoting to run 7’s.
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
yes Cossie Dave, he’s at 830 on pump now and that’s on an engine dyno to.
Monster power for pump, is he still mad or new tuner ?
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Monster power for pump, is he still mad or new tuner ?
Dave doesn’t use MAD anymore, he’s use someone else

Cheers Paul
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Monster power for pump, is he still mad or new tuner ?
I saw his car at Simply Ford at Beaulieu back in September and his car and engine bay are immaculate!
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DP motorsport?
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There was a escort cosworth
in Greece probably 15 yrs ago now
for drag racing running 1200hp
think they were called extreme tuning
or something alone that line
when we did some work for them
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Originally Posted by turbotrev
Dave doesn’t use MAD anymore, he’s use someone else

Cheers Paul
Is that still on cast 200 block ? Some power that 💪💪
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Is that still on cast 200 block ? Some power that 💪💪
Which block is better and why I can't remember now? Cast wise.
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Is that still on cast 200 block ? Some power that 💪💪
Smith and jones block and mapped by Julian Godfrey on his engine dyno. Similar spec to John gambles sapphire I believe but johns runs race fuel for 930hp.
Do you have any plans to run rods at more power or are u leaving as is for now? Was reading the original 200mph feature this week from performance ford, some incredible figures for a rwd car set up for top speed was approx 700hp then it said.
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I came across this the other day on my YouTube.
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
Smith and jones block and mapped by Julian Godfrey on his engine dyno. Similar spec to John gambles sapphire I believe but johns runs race fuel for 930hp.
Do you have any plans to run rods at more power or are u leaving as is for now? Was reading the original 200mph feature this week from performance ford, some incredible figures for a rwd car set up for top speed was approx 700hp then it said.

No more power for me mate 200 block I'd not want to push any further, maxed out on pump 760 hp that's about 790 hp on engine dyno

Smith and Jones required to go further but I'm happy to stay as is, got the gtr for the crazy stuff 👍

Would need alot more power in the cossie to top the gtrs 166 mph trap speed
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Originally Posted by Lee read
I came across this the other day on my YouTube. https://youtu.be/7wLMm6WXpwY
206 mph in the rain rwd 🤣😂🤣😂 nutter

I just love the car and the history had to own it 👍

But nowadays alot easier ways to go faster in more modern cars, gtr did 0-150 in 8.3 seconds and that was with a pathetic launch 0-60 mph 3.3 seconds which is alot slower than is possible with a gtr even on road tyres

The cossies just for fun just want to beat my pb of 11.9 134 mph in a rwd stick shift 👍
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
206 mph in the rain rwd 🤣😂🤣😂 nutter

I just love the car and the history had to own it 👍

But nowadays alot easier ways to go faster in more modern cars, gtr did 0-150 in 8.3 seconds and that was with a pathetic launch 0-60 mph 3.3 seconds which is alot slower than is possible with a gtr even on road tyres

The cossies just for fun just want to beat my pb of 11.9 134 mph in a rwd stick shift 👍
History it's not short on. Would love a car that has history one day. What bhp is the gtr?

Have you seen livinglifefast his gtr is 1900bhp. Would love to feel what that is like
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Originally Posted by Lee read
History it's not short on. Would love a car that has history one day. What bhp is the gtr?

Have you seen livinglifefast his gtr is 1900bhp. Would love to feel what that is like
Mine is about 1600 hp 2.7-2.8 bar of boost on e85
Llf is the next level.
Even mine at 1600 hp on the street it's insane even with new r888r tyres all round struggling for grip
I think I've seen 1.3g of acceleration so far I've got all the logs on the pc from Santa Pod, it's an experience that's for sure, it had been in a garage for several weeks having air con fixed, I picked it up last Friday to drive it home and it felt insanely fast again just on pump fuel, I think because i haven't driven for so long it was a shock again 😂🤣

I just want an 8 on 20" fully legal road tyres, that's what will impress me more than anything else a proper 8 second Street car.
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
yes Cossie Dave, he’s at 830 on pump now and that’s on an engine dyno to.
830 on pump fuel is mega!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

Sod all that race fuel bollocks just to achieve big numbers on rolling road graphs 😂😂

Cheers Paul
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Originally Posted by turbotrev
830 on pump fuel is mega!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

Sod all that race fuel bollocks just to achieve big numbers on rolling road graphs 😂😂

Cheers Paul
It's a shame e85 isn't at the pumps here like it is abroad or I'm sure many more would use itBloody good stuff, I'm trapping 150s mph pump, 166 mph e85 😮😮
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Mine is about 1600 hp 2.7-2.8 bar of boost on e85
Llf is the next level.
Even mine at 1600 hp on the street it's insane even with new r888r tyres all round struggling for grip
I think I've seen 1.3g of acceleration so far I've got all the logs on the pc from Santa Pod, it's an experience that's for sure, it had been in a garage for several weeks having air con fixed, I picked it up last Friday to drive it home and it felt insanely fast again just on pump fuel, I think because i haven't driven for so long it was a shock again 😂🤣

I just want an 8 on 20" fully legal road tyres, that's what will impress me more than anything else a proper 8 second Street car.
What's it doing now then?? How much has it cost to get it to where it's at now if you don't mind me asking.
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Originally Posted by Lee read
What's it doing now then?? How much has it cost to get it to where it's at now if you don't mind me asking.



that is my best so far 9.65 @ 166.08 mph, that's with a 3000 rpm launch on old r888 tyres, now have new r888r tyres hopefully a 4000 rpm launch and the extra grip will get me the 8 I'm looking for, 60 ft was 1.85 last time, I'm hopeful can get a 1.6 on new tyres, and better grip in 2nd and 3rd gear.
1/8 to 1/4 I was full pelt last time at 3 seconds dead so need to get the 1/8th time down now with more grip

I paid Ł65000 for the car which I think was an absolute bargain, it felt quite lazy when I got it that turned out to be split ams carbon plenum feels much better now more responsive, new plenums, tyres and air con and a map tweek as it now needs more fuel and we're ready to try again when I have time

I think theres a chance I will be over 130 mph in the 1/8th now

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer


that is my best so far 9.65 @ 166.08 mph, that's with a 3000 rpm launch on old r888 tyres, now have new r888r tyres hopefully a 4000 rpm launch and the extra grip will get me the 8 I'm looking for, 60 ft was 1.85 last time, I'm hopeful can get a 1.6 on new tyres, and better grip in 2nd and 3rd gear.
1/8 to 1/4 I was full pelt last time at 3 seconds dead so need to get the 1/8th time down now with more grip

I paid Ł65000 for the car which I think was an absolute bargain, it felt quite lazy when I got it that turned out to be split ams carbon plenum feels much better now more responsive, new plenums, tyres and air con and a map tweek as it now needs more fuel and we're ready to try again when I have time

I think theres a chance I will be over 130 mph in the 1/8th now
That's some great times there mate. Did you buy the car already tuned and then tweeked it?
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Originally Posted by Lee read
That's some great times there mate. Did you buy the car already tuned and then tweeked it?
Yeah all built and tuned 2.6 bar of boost 1326 whp fresh of the Dyno when I bought it, but once I repaired intake leaks boost had gone upto 2.7 - 2.8 bar and 10% more fuel required, so that was done via remote mapping

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
Yeah all built and tuned 2.6 bar of boost 1326 whp fresh of the Dyno when I bought it, but once I repaired intake leaks boost had gone upto 2.7 - 2.8 bar and 10% more fuel required, so that was done via remote mapping
Bloody hell. Hell of a jump in boost there. Surly looking at about 1400bhp or at least close to. You going to take it further or leave it at where it is now?
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Bloody hell. Hell of a jump in boost there. Surly looking at about 1400bhp or at least close to. You going to take it further or leave it at where it is now?
It's definately got more power but I don't know how much, it feels alot faster as builds boost much quicker now as there's no leaks, I would guess somewhere in the 1350 to 1400 hp at the wheels, it's rated at jm1600r 1600 crank hp, no plans to up the power difficult to fully utilise what is had now 🤣😂

A bit of perspective for you Bugatti veyron supersport 0-150 mph time is 10.2 seconds, so far I've done 8.3 seconds with a slow 0-60 in that of 3.2 or 3.3
with a proper launch and 2s to 60 should dip in the 7s 0-150 mph, so really no more power needed, never thought I'd ever say that 😂🤣 lol
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
It's definately got more power but I don't know how much, it feels alot faster as builds boost much quicker now as there's no leaks, I would guess somewhere in the 1350 to 1400 hp at the wheels, it's rated at jm1600r 1600 crank hp, no plans to up the power difficult to fully utilise what is had now 🤣😂

A bit of perspective for you Bugatti veyron supersport 0-150 mph time is 10.2 seconds, so far I've done 8.3 seconds with a slow 0-60 in that of 3.2 or 3.3
with a proper launch and 2s to 60 should dip in the 7s 0-150 mph, so really no more power needed, never thought I'd ever say that 😂🤣 lol
More exciting than any electric car will ever be!!!!
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More exciting than any electric car will ever be!!!!
And half the price 😁😁
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