Stu @ M Developments

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remapping with evolution chips

www.evolutionchips.com

test. no neeed to reply.

spookie

Stu, im a bit worried about taking my car for a remap, i just want a better throttle response, but have heard some horror stories of things going wrong. after they have had a fiddle is there anyway of changing it back if things dont go well?

Jim Galbally

yes it can go back. IIRC MSD/Evolution offer some kind or 14 day no money back guarantee thing if youre not 100% happy.

dubt theyve ever used it tho... lol

Mr S1

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Stu - that site is superb mate - first class, really impressed

cossie604

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Is that still true then? I'd heard rumours of some insurance companies engineers now having the ability to check up on down loads?

Lloyd

that is what happens if you take your car to some cheap ebay special remapper.
you wont have a problem with a evolution chip remap.and they come with a 7 day money back gurantee.
trust me ,dont try to do this on the cheap.

C4llyT

So does Stu write every map going from these, or what?
I can get my passat chipped cheap through a mate, what makes this map different to one of these, could be same?
What I'm getting at is with Stu's name to them must be decent, but how, checked by him or done by him etc?

Lloyd

what it means is that there are no visable signs that the car has been remapped,i/e there is not a extra box fitted to the ecu.
you should allways inform your insurance company of any modifications done.if you dont you risk your insurance being invalid.

C4llyT

Your insurance will get dodgy legs?

cossie604

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I think my T4 might be the first give away to an insurance company.....besides for an over 30yr old like me insurance is cheap enough even with mods declared, so no point doing stupid dodgy shit by not declaring

That wording, imo, should be slightly altered tbh.

Lloyd

if your mate ,on the cheap, scraps your ecu due to a file transfer fault,will he stump up the money for a new one?
bmw ecus can be well over 2 k to replace.

Lloyd

the text you are refering to ,is remapping via a obd port.where there are no visable signs it has been done, as opposed to a cossy with a fitted chip and huge turbo.
some insurance companys will not load your policy just because you have had a remap done.

C4llyT

He does things with bmw ecu's and control units bmw can't do, so unlikely.
Has done 1000's or remaps/chips, did my bmw in fact.
Don't want to go off topic though, he's not one of these dodgy mappers or whatever that's been mentioned.

cossie604

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Why do you insist on pointing out the blatantly obvious to me, when I quite obviously have shown the ability to be able to read the websites text for myself?
Besides, you've just worded it how imo it should be worded on the site ie 'no visible signs' as apposed to 'no trace'. Not all insurance companies will load up your premium as you've said but you should also consider manufactuers warranty.

Lloyd

good, if you are confident in his work,and trust him to give you the best remap available,then use him.i dont have a problem with that.
its the people you dont know, who will dissappear when there is a problem,and leave you with a large bill to put it right.

JTECH James

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if you have an obd remap by one of stus dealers, the dealer simply plugs in, and extracts the required files, these are emailed over to msd, who alter the map as required and send it back, the dealer then flashes the new files into the ecu using the same method as extracting them.

a record of the std files are saved, so it can go back to std very simply.

the new maps are pretty much invisible
i belive stu changes the checksums aswell

Jim Galbally

the remap will be invisible to the diagnostics etc. they cant plug it into their machines and tell

however if they downloaded the whole map off of the ecu in the same way they do when they remap it, the file would be noticeably different. as file1 wont match file2

doubt any company wold ever go to those lenghts tho!

cossie604

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I'm sure I tried to update the software on a Vectra (sps) some time ago for a warranty issue and it brought up an odd result from the currently saved programme. I just assumed it had been remapped so thought sod it, i'll over write it with the new standard map. Cant even remember what the warranty rework was tbh as it was a probably 18mnth ago now.

Azrael

It's very easy to see it by test-driving it with a diagnostic computer.

Jim Galbally

an insurance assessor wont be testdriving it... lol

YODI

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Stu how much to chip an E36 M3 Evo?

Yodi

Jim Galbally

theres a link to his website above with prices mate

Miller 3

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Stu how much for burger and chips' and a large latte please

C4llyT

http://www.bmwautorepairs.co.uk/aboutus.htm

Jason would sort you out not too far from you.

Stu @ M Developments

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So much for no replies, i was testing google adsense, not my website link. lol


Yes, any ECU modifications can be reversed and speaking personally, we give you a no quibble 7 day trial period and warranty the programming for life.


Its very hard to be certain a car is remapped if its done properly as the only way to check externally is via the file checksum, and in most cases we leave it exactly the same.

Yes, either myself or Kenny personally recalibrate every single file an installer sends to us. We NEVER buy files in from elsewhere.

As for differences, you would be shocked at some of the garbage done out there. Its dangerous and depressing as its bringing the whole industry down and giving those of us doing a proper job a bad name.

Of course we also have insurance backing with a major UK insurer and can normally get you insured at the same premium or less than you paid before remapping.


We can all do things BMW cant with their ECM's, especially the EDC units. Its still easy to damage one with various procedures.


Was probably an RSA checksum error due to being remapped.

Psycho Warren

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do the insurance companys snoop on sites like this yet?? I bet theres a lot of clowns on sites like this with cars insured as standard, yet list of mods online in public forums

C4llyT

So does this take a lot of time?
I thought you'd turn up and get chips swapped, and that was it.
So you'd have to hang around a bit then?
I appreciate this was a no reply thread....

Stu @ M Developments

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They employ team SPECIFICALLY to search the forums pal and have done for years. I deal with them regularly to help collate evidence from forums i administrate.

Stu @ M Developments

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Long gone are the days you took a chip from stock, burnt an epro and plugged it in sadly. Nowadays its FAR more complex as you need to start with the original file and modify that.

How long that will take varies from system to system so its hard to say. I can recalibrate a 2008 Bosch EDC17 BMW control unit in around 25 - 35mins if uninterrupted for example. read and reprogramming time is about 30 Min's each way, so lets say its about 2 - 3 hrs of a job to do it properly.

blacky.

stu just wondering would it be a waste of time be getting the B10 done ???
its already good on fuel for what it is & will sit at 160 all day long if i could get away with it

just wondering as i know its has a lot of time put in to the map from alpina to make it better than when it left bmw