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Old 08-10-2008, 11:29 AM
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Default Plasma or LCD help please ????

I have no idea about t.v's and am looking for a new one.
I'm after a 44-50" bad boy, but whats the pro's and cons of plasma vs. lcd?

Any advice please?


This sort of thing.
http://www.soundandvision.co.uk/tv/lcd/sony-kdl46w4000

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Old 08-10-2008, 11:38 AM
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You've seen my Plasma and played Forza on it, why you need anything more!?

The new Panasonic Viera range came out in March this year IIRC too mate
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I`d go for plasma for that size, I dont think that LCD in that size gives a goos enough picture, not advanced anough yet. Good luck anyway
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Depends what you watch more.

LCD for full HD and watching ALOT of HD material
Plasma for SDTV and normal DVD, but still looks good on HD, but not full 1080 so not on the same level as LCD when HD material is watched.
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Depends what you watch more.

LCD for full HD and watching ALOT of HD material
Plasma for SDTV and normal DVD, but still looks good on HD, but not full 1080 so not on the same level as LCD when HD material is watched.
I think that'll need simplyfying mate!
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plasma cant produce the same quality pic (although they are improving),and have a short lifespan. After around 7 years of avarage use,they need re gas-ing which is expensive........and not worth doing

Plasmas are cheaper,and can be bought in larger sizes,.

Funny thing is,its cheaper to produce any flat screen t.v over the conventional tubed tv.......yet they charge an earth for the flats as they're what people want....
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Originally Posted by Dan
I think that'll need simplyfying mate!
Yes please ryan.

I watch alot of dvds and use my xbox360 a fair bit.
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thats fine mate that whats classed as SD material.

HD is blu-ray and HD DVD's.

How much you looking at spending? i can get absolutely cracking deals on Sony LCD's.
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Originally Posted by Ryan
thats fine mate that whats classed as SD material.

HD is blu-ray and HD DVD's.

How much you looking at spending? i can get absolutely cracking deals on Sony LCD's.
£1000-1400 ish.
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Originally Posted by FULLBORE
plasma cant produce the same quality pic (although they are improving),and have a short lifespan. After around 7 years of avarage use,they need re gas-ing which is expensive........and not worth doing

Plasmas are cheaper,and can be bought in larger sizes,.

Funny thing is,its cheaper to produce any flat screen t.v over the conventional tubed tv.......yet they charge an earth for the flats as they're what people want....


regassing is an urban myth!

IMO the best TV's in the world are Pioneer Plasmas, full 1080p HD panels, brilliant for everything!!


general rule of thumb for me tho, if you watch a lot of fast moving sport (football) and normal TV, get a plasma

If you play a lot of computer games, get an LCD (no Screen Burn like plasmas can suffer from)
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Originally Posted by Ryan
thats fine mate that whats classed as SD material.

HD is blu-ray and HD DVD's.

How much you looking at spending? i can get absolutely cracking deals on Sony LCD's.
Sony LCDS are fantastic, just expensive i feel for what they are! Sharp make as good an LCD for a lot cheaper!

i used to sell TV's btw,

www.electricalexperience.co.uk

www.tvandvideodirect.co.uk


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Originally Posted by FULLBORE
plasma cant produce the same quality pic (although they are improving),and have a short lifespan. After around 7 years of avarage use,they need re gas-ing which is expensive........and not worth doing

Plasmas are cheaper,and can be bought in larger sizes,.

Funny thing is,its cheaper to produce any flat screen t.v over the conventional tubed tv.......yet they charge an earth for the flats as they're what people want....

Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks


and to answer the question.. PLASMA
Old 08-10-2008, 12:20 PM
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Agree, Pioneer Plasma all the way, but then I may be biased! Panasonic Plasma if you don't want to stretch as far.
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i got 2 of the buggers. they rock!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks


and to answer the question.. PLASMA
well , thats what i was told by several people in the industry......people who sell t.v's.

And like i said, plasmas always seem cheaper than lcds,so i took it that what they've said must be correct........

could be wrong though.

Ive got a sony lcd and cant complain about it......get what you pay for....although sony's are a little overpriced.
Although i use mine on hd for my xbox360,and films. Dont really watch t.v with it.
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If i was looking to buy a TV of that size i would go for one of these

http://www.sharp.co.uk/X20-HD-1080p-...46x20e&bklist=

46" full 1080P TV, every input / output you could imagine, free delivery, free funky glass stand for it, 5 year warranty

£649


Sure its not the best TV out there, and the LCD vs Plasma arguement will go on for years to come, but it depends IMO on what exactly your using it for, both have advantages, both have disadvantages,

But for the TV per ££, you really cant go wrong in my opinion,


(If you actually wanted to buy one, PM me and i'll send u the discount code )
Old 08-10-2008, 12:42 PM
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people who sell TV's 90% of the time dont know shit, and are your average "salesman" if you go to a proper hifi/TV specialist they will tell you different.

my best mate works for sony as a technical trainer to all the sony centre staff, so he knows lots about TV's
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Originally Posted by Ryan
people who sell TV's 90% of the time dont know shit, and are your average "salesman" if you go to a proper hifi/TV specialist they will tell you different.

my best mate works for sony as a technical trainer to all the sony centre staff, so he knows lots about TV's

Totally agree... people that sell Tv's in places like Dixons are about as knowlegable about Screen Technology and performance as someone who works in Halfords is about cars!


Fullbore, for real facts and good advice have a look on http://www.avforums.com/

good site mate
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The original LCD you had in mind, the Sony KDL46W4000 is one of the best LCD's available.
If you can afford it - go for it.

As far as plasma goes... Other than the Pioneer Kuro series, they really can't hang with the higher spec'd LCD's.
But then again, the Pioneer plasma is THE BEST screen out there.
It's just fooking expensive..

I'd go for the Sony mate, you won't be dissappointed.
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Pioneer plasma if you can stretch to it, but i am biased
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Totally agree... people that sell Tv's in places like Dixons are about as knowlegable about Screen Technology and performance as someone who works in Halfords is about cars!


Fullbore, for real facts and good advice have a look on http://www.avforums.com/

good site mate
when i said sells t.vs i didnt mean muppets at currys or somewhere like that,they was distributors etc. I used to do alot of deliverys/collections etc to places like sony,panasonic,toshiba etc and i collected alot more faulty plasmas than i did lcds....and that was for most major companys.....probably at a ratio of 8 plasmas - 2lcd.
That was about 2-3 years ago so things may have changed thesedays...

I never stated i knew them to be facts,only on what id heard,seen....I never really looked too deep into exact facts/figures as its all a bit boring to me lol

Had a look on that site mate,and it seems to be the same sort of thing going on,some saying plasma,some saying lcd.


I think it is just down to budget,and what you watch or do with the t.v on which to go for......
like i said,i use mine for hd gaming,and films so looking at that forum, lcd was right for me. Plus i got mine very cheap lol so im happy lol
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i can get W & X Range ones cheaper
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So why are LCD 'TVs' so much more expensive than LCD monitors?
I dont get it. We all know TV tuners are cheap as shit (freeview boxes are like 20 quid retail) so why the massive price difference?

Until they start pricing these things more fairly they can whistle for my business imo.
Aside from that, I'd go plasma. LCDs dont really like weird resolutions (ie, normal telly).
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Originally Posted by dunketh
So why are LCD 'TVs' so much more expensive than LCD monitors?
Take a look at the panel sizes for a start,

A 19" LCD tv is not much more then an equal spec 19" monitor.

But you cant really compare the cost of a 37" LCD to a 22" monitor can you?
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Take a look at the panel sizes for a start,

A 19" LCD tv is not much more then an equal spec 19" monitor.

But you cant really compare the cost of a 37" LCD to a 22" monitor can you?
I have!
A 19" LCD TV is a lot more expensive than an LCD monitor. Usually at least 50% more expensive.

And no, you obviously cant compare two totally different things. That and the fact LCD screens seem to be priced exponentially when it comes to size.
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Originally Posted by dunketh
I have!
A 19" LCD TV is a lot more expensive than an LCD monitor. Usually at least 50% more expensive.

And no, you obviously cant compare two totally different things. That and the fact LCD screens seem to be priced exponentially when it comes to size.
19" monitor £83.95 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150112

19" TV £139.99 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/133835


So yeah u pay a bit more, but taken into fact you get the TV tuner, all input / output options, built in speakers, remote control etc etc its not that huge a difference really
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Originally Posted by Ryan
i can get W & X Range ones cheaper
Like the one in the link in my first post?
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yes, but i can get you the X range, which is the top range, cheaper than that one
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http://www.soundandvision.co.uk/tv/lcd/sony-kdl-40x3500
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Originally Posted by Ryan
yes, but i can get you the X range, which is the top range, cheaper than that one
can you p.m me some details flower.
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Ryan,
What about that in a 46"?
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will find out, but would be a few hundred cheaper, but obviously cant offer credit
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Been doen a million times on this board

At that size it has to be a plasma other wise your being stupid or have been misled
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Originally Posted by janbanan
The original LCD you had in mind, the Sony KDL46W4000 is one of the best LCD's available.
If you can afford it - go for it.

As far as plasma goes... Other than the Pioneer Kuro series, they really can't hang with the higher spec'd LCD's.
But then again, the Pioneer plasma is THE BEST screen out there.
It's just fooking expensive..

I'd go for the Sony mate, you won't be dissappointed.
utter utter utter utter utter..........................................

crap
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The gaps closing.
Still cheaper to buy a monitor and external tuner but then I guess its supply and demand. They probably dont shift half as many integrated models as they do 'vanilla' pc monitors.

I'd wait til Christmas if I were buying right now, especially with the recession looming. I recon there'll be some proper sweet deals in the sales.
Prices are already falling with no real affect, fingers crossed they end up near giving them away.
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