Benni

A friend of our family turned up with the kids, his car is on "Part Worn" Tires. I have always believed this to be bad, and is not something I would do myself. I was quite shocked he would have his kids in said car. However, I am not too sure why. My brother told me I was a 'Pleb' and didn't have a clue. He stated, the tires on my own car are now part worn themselves.

Your opinions please.

Benni.

fish99

I wouldnt buy them as I wouldnt know the history of them... Yeah your tyres may be part worn now but at least you know how they have been treated. 2 things I wont take any risk with, brakes and tyres

Benni

My brother seems to think you can look at the tire and see how it has been treated. Bulges, splits etc. I am with you though, not something I could do myself.

Benni.

slowpoke

all depends on what car its going on too i think

Dangerous Malcolm..

If you buy a second hand car it almost always comes with part worns anyway. As long as they're from a reputable company I don't see the problem.

C4llyT

There's part worn on your own car, then there's part worns having been fitted, removed, and fitted again; this is the issue I think.
What do you do, new budgets, or part worn decent?
Personally, tyres are only contact with the road, so stupid to penny pinch.

dunketh

Guess it depends on the supplier.
I've seen tyres that 'look' fine but have been full of rubber dust when removed.
I'd hope the suppliers would ditch any that have dodgy sidewalls or are dried out and cracked in places.

Paddy

I don't see the point in buying part worn tyres [no matter how good they are or how reputable a source they come from] when budgets are probably a few pound different.

It's a false economy anyway imo. By the time you've knocked a couple of sets of part worns out you could have bought a DECENT set in the first place that would probably have lasted as long.

As said above, the tyre is the only contact you have with the road so penny pinching is ridiculous.

lil_me

We used them a lot on my old Escort because the alloys were a silly size and expensive to get tyres for, I was paying less than half the price for slightly worn tyres. Must have had 10 at least, never any problems. I think there is more chance of getting a problem with a new tyre noone else has 'tested' when you think about it. Any manufacturing issues usually become a 'problem' within the first few hundred miles.

mcst

I think all good manufacturers be it the big names or the mid level manufacturers have very stringent testing. I have never heard of anyone having problems with tyres due to manufacturing faults. Used to be able to get tyres from a local place near me called Viking and they carried a lifetime guarantee. Even remoulds are tested. Most rally cars and lorries in the uk run on remoulds.

Any good tyre place will have a tyre to suit all budgets. I had cougar rims and only 3 manufacturers make tyres in the standard size. They advised to go down a width and gave me about 5 makes in my budget.

As said before you don't know the history of the tyre. At least if you get a 2nd hand car there are other signs of any potential problems wheel damage, balance, alignment etc..
these should ring alarm bells and warrant further investigation. How do you know that those part worns aren't of a car involved in an accident? Wouldn't like to chance it. Should leave it to banger racers and track cars.

mrjenrst

you are taking the piss?




fuck all wrong with part worn tyre's, there will be more remould's that have a defect in them as the old tread is removed then the bare carcass has the new tread bonded on to them.

part worn's are exactly that

we used to do a lot of fleet car's and if someone had a puncture and has ran the tyre flat it's fucked, but due to the fleet hire/finance company's they all need to be replaced together.

1 x fucked tyre
3 x part worn.

mondymatt do you seriously believe that part worn tyre company's search for accident damaged car's just for a tyre to sell for a tenner?

neilm

I cant believe this

You buy a set of tyres, you drive 5,000 miles on them, they are part worn.

You wont take them off and fit new ones, you will carry on driving on them for another 5-10000 miles until they need replacing because they are worn out.

We are ALL driving on part worn tyres.

MORONS !!!!

mrjenrst

Paddy

How much is a part worn 195 50 15? £20/£25 fitted?

I can get a new H rated tyre fitted [falken/nankang] for £32 ish [ALS Tyres in Bracknell, they come out with the van and balance/fit on site, so no fucking about ].

Going by your figures on tyre useage, lets say the average part worn has done 5000 miles and the average life of a tyre is 10,000-15,000.

2 lots of part worns at £20/£25 or one of £32?

I agree, anyone that thinks their car isn't running on anything other than part worn tyres is a moron.

But anyone that goes out and buys part worns to save a few quid, is a fucking retard.

Obviously it's slightly different for me as I couldn't put a tyre on a customer's car without it being brand new. They like to see the little chalk marks

rsnissan

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1)Paddy your point is concerned with the false economics of part worns........

2) Neil is talking about the safety which is what benni asked about........I agree with Neil

3) Benni your brother is indeed right you ARE a pleb

The end

Paddy

Thanks for that Andy, not being a retard I did manage to follow those points myself without the summary [edited to add: especially the point about Benni, there but for the grace of God etc.]

Answer this though [to show why I made my point twice], GENERALLY why would someone buy a part worn tyre in the first place, instead of a new one?

rsnissan

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no one was asking about the cost of part worns over new though

someone would buy some on a shitter they were going to sell perhaps

p.s I fitted part worns on my bmx once when I was 8..............then got a puncture..............then fell off...........that was a bad day

mrjenrst

if your assuming that it's got 4/5 mm tread left then it's probably not more cost effective in the long run, but if you get one with 7/8/9 mm then it's using your head.

mk3matt

i got 2 part worns the other day, they had easily as much tread as new ones i had bought the other day for over a ton for the pair.

these came to £15 fitted each, and they gave me a pair of spacers cos i was after some!

30 quid, and theyre better than the budgets i had to stick on the rear the week before. which tbh are crap

dave cos4x4

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i would rather have a part worn pirrelli tyre than a new Nangkang of any other cheap make.

RWD_cossie_wil

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Nowt wrong with good part worns, how many people buy second hand Alloys with tyres fitted? How many people buy used AP brakes, used suspension etc etc? Same as ever, have a good look at them before you buy, be sensible and you won't go wrong.

mcst

I know they don't get them from accident damaged cars. Not everyone buys part worns from specific part worn places. I know plenty that get them from scrappies as they're even cheaper. Remoulds are entirely different and are remanufactured and as such tested and will carry a guarantee big difference imho.


We all know that the set we are driving on are part worn give us some credit!!! But i know 100% they are damage free as i had them fitted and i've done every mile on them.
The point is exactly as said earlier a good tyre place will have a tyre to suit all budgets that carries a guarantee so why even take the chance? False economy imho.
Benni asked for peoples opinions i offered mine and agreed with a few others.

I stand by my opinion! I wouldn't choose to fit them to any of my cars.

dave cos4x4

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[quote=mondymatt;3629386] But i know 100% they are damage free as i had them fitted and i've done every mile on them.
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so if you get a puncture, would yes just buy a new tyre instead of getting it fixed as some part worn tyres have had punctures fixed and they are no good then in your opinion.

Paddy

Come on Andy, you've more common sense than that, let's try to raise the game on PF?? We know it needs to be!

It ALL boils down to price and economics, as always! The thread was started [all be it by one of Jesus' special children] explaining how someone turned up on part worn tyres.

Maybe I'm jumping ahead a bit but I assumed they weren't just worn from when he bought them new and the wearing was all his own use!

I assumed he'd bought them part worn? Hence the reason for thread?

So Bendi's thread was asking a question about safety etc. which all boils down to how the choice was made in the first place? Which I would GENERALLY say is based on price.

I can't imagine we're talking about high performance tyres here.

That didn't answer the question which started with the word "generally". You awkward, awkward man

My grandad was up a ladder once washing the windows on his house. Later that day Hitler declared war on Britain.

That was a pretty bad day too [and about as relevant].

P.S I would buy part worn tyres for myself, for a track car!

But I certainly wouldn't consider buying any used tyres for a customer or something I'd be using on the road myself, especially carrying friends/family around.

That has got nothing to do with some part worn tyres being brilliant etc. etc. as people keep posting. I'd just prefer to buy new. But I also wouldn't buy SOME budgets for any of my own cars as I'm a snob, I drive like a c*nt and I'm not a pikey

mcst

Exactly my point.
I never said there was anything wrong with fitting part worns just raised the point that you never know the history of the tyre same as others.

mrjenrst

bullshit, have you ever seen a remould go?

not talking of belt's or ply movement, the tread can come off ffs

so you'd rather drive around with a remould that has a 'guarantee' then a part worn tyre?

and what guarantee's do you get with a remould anyway?

lil_me

I only ever bought from a tyre dealer specialising in part worns. I used them the first time as noone else had a tyres in that size and I needed two that day. I paid half the price of a nankang or whatever they are called for a pair of pirellis with 8.1mm I think it was left on them. I have never bought remoulds either.

rsnissan

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"part worn" is a subjective thing....................as soon you get the car off the drive having fitted new wheels and tyres the tyres are worn to some degree.

Similarly there is an acceptable limit for the life of tyres before they are illegal

Anywhere in-between WILL be part worn but legal


If you can provide some kind of scale of how worn a tyre is that correlates to its price then I will be happy to comment further

p.s I am bored at work.........

p.p.s benni is still a pleb

rsnissan

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"part worn" is a subjective thing....................as soon you get the car off the drive having fitted new wheels and tyres the tyres are worn to some degree.

Similarly there is an acceptable limit for the life of tyres before they are illegal

Anywhere in-between WILL be part worn but legal


If you can provide some kind of scale of how worn a tyre is that correlates to its price then I will be happy to comment further

p.s I am bored at work.........

p.p.s benni is still a pleb

Paddy

I didn't feel the need as the bloke above that called us all morons gave a rough guesstimate of averages.

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p.s I am bored at work.........

I'm at home with really bad shits

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p.p.s benni is still a pleb

Amen

rsnissan

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what ever happened to tyres with inner tubes..................they were awesome for making swings......tobogganing.......industrial sized "toobin" rings at the beach.......

dojj

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i used to buy part worns for several years because i could get new ones (i know that doesn't make much sense, but the tyres were coming off of cars that hadn't done a lot of mileage and they were fully tested before they werre put into the "this tyre is useable" bucket)

splits and tears are a no no and now i've got a family to deal with i always buy new tyres, but when you have a car that you drive like jb, part worns at a 5th of the price are just as good at making smoke

cozzfather

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i used to work for the bloke who owns a car salvage supermarket,that place is massive, he is car dealer who owns a main dealer and a scrap yard full of lovely scrap cars too.
he is more than a millionaire and when he found out i had a mate who owned a used tyre place called Tyres R Us,and could get a good part worner for a tenner i was the second hand tyre middle man.
i have had good part worns and shit ones that go flat or upon close inspection look like they have done 100mph with the brakes on and flat spotted or been dragged or got bulges in. now i look very carefully at the tyre and never go flat out on a new part worn,i leave it for a bit of driving first to make sure they feel good.
you can't knock the prices of some big fucking top brand tyres say 18-19- up to 22's etc that are 25- 40 quid a corner when they cost 200 or more quid each.
i got some tyres for a car i was shifting and the big lad from gladiators was there with a 05 530d bmw alpina chucking on part worners too.

paulg

And remember to only blow up your tyres at shell garages with genuine shell air because your steering might be impared and you could crash into a childrens home killing everyone in a fire!!!!!
some people do s**t their pants about everything dont they.

mrjenrst

Dicko&Vacant

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PMSL

Used part worns before, paid £20 each for 17" ones, always been decent makes and never had any issues, theyve generally had 7-8mm of tread on as well, so pretty cheap and lasted a good while

tomti

never seen the problem with buying part worns. would rather spend 15 quid on a slightly worn toyo or pirelli than 25 on a brand new ditch-finder

FletchCossie

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When I had my old 2wd Cos and I was out doing donuts, burnouts, etc I killed 52 tyres (Estimated) in 2 years (Maybe less as I killed 4 NEW Toyo Proxes in 8 days, which Redline magazine gave me )

I was very lucky to have my name passed onto a tyre fitter who also owned a white 2wd Saph. He was a bufty and loved watching me kill tyres, so he kept decent part worns for me and fitted them for free...

I NEVER had a problem with any of the tyres and I covered 1000miles a week sometimes!

I would not skimp now as I dont kill tyres anymore and would only buy decent new tyres (Unless money restricted me)

Diamonds.

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i only ever used to buy part worn tyres for the works van £5-£10 fitted....was well worth it ued to last me ages too. only once they fucked me and i had a blow out on the M4 but could of been anything TBH. as for my car i would only buy new.

SS1

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