** HAMILTON deducted to 3rd place for belgium gp**
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It's so funny, that Massa was investigated by the stewards deemed to be dangerous in the pits, then the decision was left until after the race, to which Ferrari were found guilty after the race, (and fined)they weren't given 25 second penelty. the FIA are so corrupt.
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Yet further proof that the FIA are in the pockets of Ferrari!
Last race, Massa almost caused an accident in the pit lane, and the result was a derisory small fine because they didnt want to interfere with the championship race.
This race, Hamilton is forced off the track, yields the position right back, and then beats Kimi legitimately with kimi eventually crashing! This time, the FIA feel that they should deduct points from Lewis!!.........
The sport is a farce, and there can be no question of the pro-ferrari bias. If lewis does actually take the championship, with will be after having beaten not only the other drivers, but also the massively partisan "officials"
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Last race, Massa almost caused an accident in the pit lane, and the result was a derisory small fine because they didnt want to interfere with the championship race.
This race, Hamilton is forced off the track, yields the position right back, and then beats Kimi legitimately with kimi eventually crashing! This time, the FIA feel that they should deduct points from Lewis!!.........
The sport is a farce, and there can be no question of the pro-ferrari bias. If lewis does actually take the championship, with will be after having beaten not only the other drivers, but also the massively partisan "officials"
JJ
Regarding this appeal, I'll stick my neck out say it will be held on the day after the last race of the season and go something like this....
If Hamilton finishes second in the C'ship and the points he'd get back means he'd be champ, the decision will stand.
If getting the points back means he still isn't champ, the decision will be overturned and he'll get his points back.
If he wins the world crown, the FIA will decide that the penalty wasn't severe enough, and they'll penalise him just enough to drop him to 2nd in the C'ship
If Hamilton finishes second in the C'ship and the points he'd get back means he'd be champ, the decision will stand.
If getting the points back means he still isn't champ, the decision will be overturned and he'll get his points back.
If he wins the world crown, the FIA will decide that the penalty wasn't severe enough, and they'll penalise him just enough to drop him to 2nd in the C'ship
i'm not particularly a fan of anyone or any team in F1 - i just like to watch close, fair racing. and f1 is not that anymore.
if anyone hears of any petitions to sign up to on this subject, please post them up on here
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am i talking to myself in here? ferrari were fined due to them releasing him at the wrong time.
hamiltons two problems in the raceshe has been punished for are driver error.he was in control in the pit when he hit kimi up the arse at the red light.not paying attention so was punished.
today he decided to cut the corner while HE was driving,not the team.therefore he gets the punishment.
and no i dont hate lewis,and no im not racist.in fact i really like them bloke and think he is very very talented but i can see errors at times in his inexperience
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Lewis out-breaked Kimi because Kimi bottled the corner. Nothing to do with the tow. Maybe if the straight was longer then this could of been affected. Having said that though the momentum was all Kimi's. Lewis had to ease off to let him past and then re-apply thottle. For this reason Lewis did not get an advantage. Kimi had the advantage as he did not have to release any throttle pressure at all. Lewis is a much better driver in the wet. Thats why he won the race.
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am i talking to myself in here? ferrari were fined due to them releasing him at the wrong time.
hamiltons two problems in the raceshe has been punished for are driver error.he was in control in the pit when he hit kimi up the arse at the red light.not paying attention so was punished.
today he decided to cut the corner while HE was driving,not the team.therefore he gets the punishment.
and no i dont hate lewis,and no im not racist.in fact i really like them bloke and think he is very very talented but i can see errors at times in his inexperience
hamiltons two problems in the raceshe has been punished for are driver error.he was in control in the pit when he hit kimi up the arse at the red light.not paying attention so was punished.
today he decided to cut the corner while HE was driving,not the team.therefore he gets the punishment.
and no i dont hate lewis,and no im not racist.in fact i really like them bloke and think he is very very talented but i can see errors at times in his inexperience
but i dont like him at all hes the amir kahn of the f1 world imo still imature and needs to loosethis title then once he learns he is not worth the hype and starts earning it then he might become the driver the hype says he is
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http://www.petitiononline.com/belgp08/petition.html
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i have signed it, depending on how many signatures they get they may have to care bout, but they probably wont
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am i talking to myself in here? ferrari were fined due to them releasing him at the wrong time.
hamiltons two problems in the raceshe has been punished for are driver error.he was in control in the pit when he hit kimi up the arse at the red light.not paying attention so was punished.
today he decided to cut the corner while HE was driving,not the team.therefore he gets the punishment.
hamiltons two problems in the raceshe has been punished for are driver error.he was in control in the pit when he hit kimi up the arse at the red light.not paying attention so was punished.
today he decided to cut the corner while HE was driving,not the team.therefore he gets the punishment.
http://www.petitiononline.com/belgp08/petition.html
Happy now? Think the FIA will care about that petition?
Happy now? Think the FIA will care about that petition?
you're a ferrari lover, you're biased and blinkered
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Lewis out-breaked Kimi because Kimi bottled the corner. Nothing to do with the tow. Maybe if the straight was longer then this could of been affected. Having said that though the momentum was all Kimi's. Lewis had to ease off to let him past and then re-apply thottle. For this reason Lewis did not get an advantage. Kimi had the advantage as he did not have to release any throttle pressure at all. Lewis is a much better driver in the wet. Thats why he won the race.
completely agree well said that man
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i thought that it is the driver's responsibility for leaving his pit box, not the teams? so even if they get a green light to go from the team, they should still look for themselves?
of course they won't as they have ferarri money behind them, but you have to voice an opinion
you're a ferrari lover, you're biased and blinkered
of course they won't as they have ferarri money behind them, but you have to voice an opinion
you're a ferrari lover, you're biased and blinkered
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lol @ you having to explain urself , never mind mate !
but i dont like him at all hes the amir kahn of the f1 world imo still imature and needs to loosethis title then once he learns he is not worth the hype and starts earning it then he might become the driver the hype says he is
but i dont like him at all hes the amir kahn of the f1 world imo still imature and needs to loosethis title then once he learns he is not worth the hype and starts earning it then he might become the driver the hype says he is
Hype..................he is worth it its his second year in F1 and hes leading so he must be good. I think its great that uk has a star in a high level sport.
looked at the video and yes he passed kimi but he droped back and let him past ( does it say in the rules how far thay are ment to drop back )
theres alot of people that dont like hamilton but is that just the green eyed monster coz its not them????
He should have won the race, end of!
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What a load of shit!!!!
Hype..................he is worth it its his second year in F1 and hes leading so he must be good. I think its great that uk has a star in a high level sport.
looked at the video and yes he passed kimi but he droped back and let him past ( does it say in the rules how far thay are ment to drop back )
theres alot of people that dont like hamilton but is that just the green eyed monster coz its not them????
He should have won the race, end of!
Hype..................he is worth it its his second year in F1 and hes leading so he must be good. I think its great that uk has a star in a high level sport.
looked at the video and yes he passed kimi but he droped back and let him past ( does it say in the rules how far thay are ment to drop back )
theres alot of people that dont like hamilton but is that just the green eyed monster coz its not them????
He should have won the race, end of!
he didnt drop back thats the point ! Ur not watching fantasy f1 by anychance
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Dont talk rubbish Si, if you're that patriotic how come I've never heard you go on about Button, Coulthard or Davidson?
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it's F*CKING bullshit!
It was a fight with kimmi, he crashed later on.. So what influnce has it on the final standings? NOTHING :S
so why would they give him a penalty???
The objection came from Kimmi so deff a Ferrari trick AGAIN..
omg i hate those fuckers soo bad!
It was a fight with kimmi, he crashed later on.. So what influnce has it on the final standings? NOTHING :S
so why would they give him a penalty???
The objection came from Kimmi so deff a Ferrari trick AGAIN..
omg i hate those fuckers soo bad!
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i thought that it is the driver's responsibility for leaving his pit box, not the teams? so even if they get a green light to go from the team, they should still look for themselves?
of course they won't as they have ferarri money behind them, but you have to voice an opinion
you're a ferrari lover, you're biased and blinkered
of course they won't as they have ferarri money behind them, but you have to voice an opinion
you're a ferrari lover, you're biased and blinkered
if the team let them go they go.they cant see fook all behind them.they have limited vision on track let alone with a bunch of pit crew stood in the way.
they go when the team say and thats it.he backed off when he see the force india next to him.
as for the ferrari fans comments,imo its blinkered english fans im seeing.i have said mant times i think lewis is a great driver but i can also admit when i think he made a mistake.
schuey make mistakes,senna made mistakes,so has kimi and massa but thats racing.
you need to recognise when they are mistakes and take whats due
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What a shower of shit, id like to know why they havent investigated kimmi the way he's been driving this season the cnut couldnt drive if the car was remote controlled from the pits!
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If you do a search on here you'll see that I was a Ferrari fan WAY before I bought my Ferrari so that's another cap in one's ass
The 360 does come with height adjustable seats so that's ANOTHR cap in one's ass
Good lord, you really are doing a good job at collecting these
YOU CUNT
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was an enertaining race....
i had a feeling they would look into the incident when it happened. only thing i can think is after lewis cut the corner and got infront, even tho he let kimi back infront he had more momentum in the stright to pass than he would have if he didnt cut the corner.
kimi ended up spining anyway so should leave lewis alone..... but then again would he have spun if this didnt happen.
watching lewis/massa and kimi battle is kool.
come on lewis
i had a feeling they would look into the incident when it happened. only thing i can think is after lewis cut the corner and got infront, even tho he let kimi back infront he had more momentum in the stright to pass than he would have if he didnt cut the corner.
kimi ended up spining anyway so should leave lewis alone..... but then again would he have spun if this didnt happen.
watching lewis/massa and kimi battle is kool.
come on lewis
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Look again @1.06 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TZngbIS9I
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hamilton blatantly cut the corner to stay in the race or he would have been forced onto the grass... possibly ending the race for both... however, he also let raikkonen pass fully, then cut to the inside and what appears to be oout breaking him to then pass on the corner...
dont know what the telometry says, but either way Mclaren & Hamilton deserved this win, but it would have given him a great lead, and similarly to the last race, meant he would have been alot of points ahead of massa and could have coasted to the finish for an outright win for a young lad with only 2 seasons under his belt...
Ferrari International Assistance could be seen to be "protecting" the sport, however its complete bollocks... anybody who knows anything about momenum will know that Kimi had more in order to pass him! i think that Mclaren shoud have a scarlet red colour scheme next year.... was the most exciting last few laps in F1 for a long time... then the Fucking International Arseholes pull a decision like that... what a load of toss... : angry:
dont know what the telometry says, but either way Mclaren & Hamilton deserved this win, but it would have given him a great lead, and similarly to the last race, meant he would have been alot of points ahead of massa and could have coasted to the finish for an outright win for a young lad with only 2 seasons under his belt...
Ferrari International Assistance could be seen to be "protecting" the sport, however its complete bollocks... anybody who knows anything about momenum will know that Kimi had more in order to pass him! i think that Mclaren shoud have a scarlet red colour scheme next year.... was the most exciting last few laps in F1 for a long time... then the Fucking International Arseholes pull a decision like that... what a load of toss... : angry:
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its ridiculous, he was squeezed by kimi, moved out of his way so he didnt crash, backed off and let him back through, then overtook him after the finish line. If anything kimi should have been pulled after the race for driving into the back of him!
Ferrari conspiricy again!
In the eyes of the FIA they can do no wrong, but Maclaren get hammered for racing incidents. Still least Lewis is still ahead in the championship.
Ferrari conspiricy again!
In the eyes of the FIA they can do no wrong, but Maclaren get hammered for racing incidents. Still least Lewis is still ahead in the championship.
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