** HAMILTON deducted to 3rd place for belgium gp**
07-09-2008, 04:50 PM
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ITs a fact that the F'ckin FIA is always in favour of ferrari and espicaly agianst Mclaren.
Indipendit from what happened.... they shoudl not penalize a driver for trying to overtake.
AND what should lewis done???????? it was CUT the corner or CUT kimi's car in 2.....
07-09-2008, 04:51 PM
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Cant say I agree with that ruling, He was slightly ahead, level at best after he slid through the chicane, but he let kimi straight through then did him fair and square on the next corner. They may as well say he pushed kimi off when he fucking spun, or it was hamiltons fault raikkonens engine blew up in valencia 
Crock of shit, I'm very disappointed in the cunts, sorry, FIA
Crock of shit, I'm very disappointed in the cunts, sorry, FIA
07-09-2008, 04:53 PM
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i have to say what a totally un-balanced sport. I watched F1 for many years and have never seen so much unfair penalties against one team compared to what others have done
07-09-2008, 05:00 PM
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un fuckin belivable
feri make a unsafe pit release, should get a drive thou get a 10k fine no championship points effected
lewis makes a pass on raikkonen, raikkonen basically pushs him off the track lewis gains place
lewis gives back place ( and its quite clear he did due to the fact before the corner he was clearly behind him for raikkonen to be covering the track defending like he did.
lewis goes on to win then gets handed 25 second pen UN FUCKIN REAL
feri make a unsafe pit release, should get a drive thou get a 10k fine no championship points effected
lewis makes a pass on raikkonen, raikkonen basically pushs him off the track lewis gains place
lewis gives back place ( and its quite clear he did due to the fact before the corner he was clearly behind him for raikkonen to be covering the track defending like he did.
lewis goes on to win then gets handed 25 second pen UN FUCKIN REAL
07-09-2008, 05:03 PM
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Yet further proof that the FIA are in the pockets of Ferrari!
Last race, Massa almost caused an accident in the pit lane, and the result was a derisory small fine because they didnt want to interfere with the championship race.
This race, Hamilton is forced off the track, yields the position right back, and then beats Kimi legitimately with kimi eventually crashing! This time, the FIA feel that they should deduct points from Lewis!!.........
The sport is a farce, and there can be no question of the pro-ferrari bias. If lewis does actually take the championship, with will be after having beaten not only the other drivers, but also the massively partisan "officials"
JJ
Last race, Massa almost caused an accident in the pit lane, and the result was a derisory small fine because they didnt want to interfere with the championship race.
This race, Hamilton is forced off the track, yields the position right back, and then beats Kimi legitimately with kimi eventually crashing! This time, the FIA feel that they should deduct points from Lewis!!.........
The sport is a farce, and there can be no question of the pro-ferrari bias. If lewis does actually take the championship, with will be after having beaten not only the other drivers, but also the massively partisan "officials"
JJ
07-09-2008, 05:05 PM
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07-09-2008, 05:07 PM
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if hamilton had pulled in behind kimi he wouldnt have been as close to kimi as he was when he cut the chicane. i did think at the time it was a border line surrender.
now i like hamilton and it is gutting in a way but it was very borderline in my view.
as for the massa incident last race,he was let out by ferrari and cant see whats next to him.lewis's decisions on the track when stuff is in front is his doing.thats why ferrari got the fine last time and hamilton gets the penalty this time.
07-09-2008, 05:08 PM
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fucking bunch of slags. Illegal move by lewis. He then let kimi back into the lead and legitimately overtook him. Not that it makes any difference to the outcome of Kimi's race as he smashed it in the wall, so how does that ruling stand. IF Kimi had finished the race in 2nd, Ferrari would obviosuly have a leg to stand on as it could be deemed that Lewis did gain an unfair advantage by cutting the chicane, but he didnt finish. Got ferrari antics written all over this. If you aint driving red, you aint got a chance. 
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07-09-2008, 05:09 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74TZngbIS9I
Seems to me he got from behind him to beside him because of the cutting in meaning he gained some time on
Kimi. He never actually pulled back in behind him, did he? Feel free to correct me, I am a big Hamilton fan.
Benni.
Seems to me he got from behind him to beside him because of the cutting in meaning he gained some time on
Kimi. He never actually pulled back in behind him, did he? Feel free to correct me, I am a big Hamilton fan.
Benni.
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07-09-2008, 05:10 PM
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Yet further proof that the FIA are in the pockets of Ferrari!
Last race, Massa almost caused an accident in the pit lane, and the result was a derisory small fine because they didnt want to interfere with the championship race.
This race, Hamilton is forced off the track, yields the position right back, and then beats Kimi legitimately with kimi eventually crashing! This time, the FIA feel that they should deduct points from Lewis!!.........
The sport is a farce, and there can be no question of the pro-ferrari bias. If lewis does actually take the championship, with will be after having beaten not only the other drivers, but also the massively partisan "officials"
JJ
Last race, Massa almost caused an accident in the pit lane, and the result was a derisory small fine because they didnt want to interfere with the championship race.
This race, Hamilton is forced off the track, yields the position right back, and then beats Kimi legitimately with kimi eventually crashing! This time, the FIA feel that they should deduct points from Lewis!!.........
The sport is a farce, and there can be no question of the pro-ferrari bias. If lewis does actually take the championship, with will be after having beaten not only the other drivers, but also the massively partisan "officials"
JJ
see my post mate.massa cant see shit and was let go by ferrari.
kimi had the corner and was right to take his line.hamilton did not have his car in front at all on the outside.
like i say i am a fan of hamilton but in this case he was not forced off he just didnt want to yeild like he shouldve
07-09-2008, 05:12 PM
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see my post mate.massa cant see shit and was let go by ferrari.
kimi had the corner and was right to take his line.hamilton did not have his car in front at all on the outside.
like i say i am a fan of hamilton but in this case he was not forced off he just didnt want to yeild like he shouldve
kimi had the corner and was right to take his line.hamilton did not have his car in front at all on the outside.
like i say i am a fan of hamilton but in this case he was not forced off he just didnt want to yeild like he shouldve
More or less what I said. Shame as Hamilton could of waited and took him properly in the next few corners.
Benni.
07-09-2008, 05:13 PM
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And why 25 seconds . If they cheats that are the FIA are so depserate for ferrari to win then just swap lewis and massa positions. no need to drop him to 3rd at all. Not as if Nick Heidfeld stand to gain anything at all by being moved up to 2nd
. If they cheats that are the FIA are so depserate for ferrari to win then just swap lewis and massa positions. no need to drop him to 3rd at all. Not as if Nick Heidfeld stand to gain anything at all by being moved up to 2nd
07-09-2008, 05:16 PM
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Looking at it again, its a close call, but look at the start of the clip... hamilton is way back, then he did him in the bus stop. He was way faster, would have only been a matter of time.
07-09-2008, 05:24 PM
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some how as soon as it hapened & they said it was under investigation i new they would shaft him as its the way it is at the mo
ever since the last race of last year when on the grid eclestone said i cant see hamalton being world champion for a couple of years .then his car mistiriosly got electrical gremlins for just enough time to hand it to ferarri seemed a little strange & every opertunity this year the fia have come down hard on the team i hope he wins the championship while out on the track without people medling with the outcome
ever since the last race of last year when on the grid eclestone said i cant see hamalton being world champion for a couple of years .then his car mistiriosly got electrical gremlins for just enough time to hand it to ferarri seemed a little strange & every opertunity this year the fia have come down hard on the team i hope he wins the championship while out on the track without people medling with the outcome
07-09-2008, 05:26 PM
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Hamilton went for the overtake.
He has a right to as its called racing.
Kimi blocked which is fair.
Hammy runs off the escape road.
Back on the straight and hammy lets off to give kimi 1st place back.
Runs down the straight BEHIND him.
They have a little shimmy and hammy goes passed.
Kimi nearly stacks it into hammys side as they come the corner and hammy gets away.
Race goes on a bit then kimi runs really wide into a esacape area but keeps up with hammy taking more speed into the corner.
Rosberg is in hammy line so hammy goes off road and kimi stays on track and back into 1st.
Come out of the corner and kimi spins. Hammy 1st.
Goes on a bit more, kimi trys too hard, loses it and ends up in the wall.
Hammy wins.
Where is there any illegal move? Really.
He has a right to as its called racing.
Kimi blocked which is fair.
Hammy runs off the escape road.
Back on the straight and hammy lets off to give kimi 1st place back.
Runs down the straight BEHIND him.
They have a little shimmy and hammy goes passed.
Kimi nearly stacks it into hammys side as they come the corner and hammy gets away.
Race goes on a bit then kimi runs really wide into a esacape area but keeps up with hammy taking more speed into the corner.
Rosberg is in hammy line so hammy goes off road and kimi stays on track and back into 1st.
Come out of the corner and kimi spins. Hammy 1st.
Goes on a bit more, kimi trys too hard, loses it and ends up in the wall.
Hammy wins.
Where is there any illegal move? Really.
07-09-2008, 05:27 PM
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there will always be a moan from dennis. i like both the drivers in mclaren,and i like some of thier team members behind the strategy but ive never liked ron.always has to have a moan even when he has done well.
saying that ive never liked flavio either.
was a good race and its a shame the rain caused that much grief(good for viewing though) i was kind of gutted that bordais lost out in the end.i thought he was punching well above his weight and gave him full respect for today
saying that ive never liked flavio either.
was a good race and its a shame the rain caused that much grief(good for viewing though) i was kind of gutted that bordais lost out in the end.i thought he was punching well above his weight and gave him full respect for today
07-09-2008, 05:35 PM
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07-09-2008, 05:39 PM
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Sorry mate..had he just followed him round the corner he'd still have had the tow.
He let him back past as per the rules meaning he had to lift throttle ( something he wouldnt have done had he been following ) so there was no advantage in a course of action that wasnt premeditated....IMO he did well to avoid an accident and deserved his win.
07-09-2008, 05:43 PM
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Sorry mate..had he just followed him round the corner he'd still have had the tow.
He let him back past as per the rules meaning he had to lift throttle ( something he wouldnt have done had he been following ) so there was no advantage in a course of action that wasnt premeditated....IMO he did well to avoid an accident and deserved his win.
He let him back past as per the rules meaning he had to lift throttle ( something he wouldnt have done had he been following ) so there was no advantage in a course of action that wasnt premeditated....IMO he did well to avoid an accident and deserved his win.
doesnt change the fact kimi wouldve binned it n the rain half a lap later anyway