Stavros

Just a bit mate I think ill ignore the comment about the hubs then too after that semi trailing arms comment

All S13s ran shithot multilink suspension (as per the pics me and radders/chip posted) since about 1989. As did 300ZX and Skylines, all run setups very similar to each other.

Last thing with semi trailing arms was the shitbox S12s from the mid 80s.

kjc300

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A bit like this superb drawing lol, would be made out of the appropriate tubing bent to shape. The tie bars would come off the horizontal underneath the diff.

SteveH

Kev thats a top idea, and I see where your coming from

Trouble is i'm doing a Mk3 fiesta and *possibly* a fiat bravo so i need to make all the pickups and the diff mount.

On a cossie though top idea!!

markk

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these are replica hubs, albeit made for rallycross, and are £825 each bare, no bearings no caps no flanges.

foreigneRS

i did that on a mk1 escort 8 years ago, but i sold it and the next owner cut it all off as it had not been set up and did not drive very well. it was all on rose joints, so would have adjusted up

costech

Ian or markk do you have any pictures of the wider rear arcs of the escort wrc,
were it´s cut etc.
best reg joakim

SteveH

Dunno if this is any help - Ians WRC build thread

https://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/89176-wrc-escort-build.html

If not there are a few more WRC cars in there, the reyland escort to name one.

HTH's

Paul Eggleton

Martins doesn't have a WRC setup!

SteveH

It has WRC arches though

bbspolo

yep martins runs a version of the grpa square beam that was built for touring cars not a wrc rear end!

it does have wrc arches though!

SteveH

Think thats what he meant.

Cant be arsed going through the million page thread, u got any pics to hand?
Not seen the rear on his

markk

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do you mean the wider rear arches ?


I dont think martin has the wider rears though ?

SteveH

I think your right actually....

costech

I don´t think he has the wrc rear arcs only the front.

ian sibbert

Hi Joakim..

The extra width on the rear is acheived in a rather simple way....the seam on the inner arch is split, the outer arch is pulled wider then the gap it leaves is filled with a fillet plate, I will get you some pics tomorrow....

The track is noticibly different when you sit a WR car next to a standard esc cos...

costech

Thanks looking forward for the pics, I have an WRC escort in gravel spec without
wider arcs that i´m rebuilding to tarmac spec.
So i need to do this mod to get everything right as i should be.
of to bed

Tony Ryan

And then theres super wide ...

ian sibbert

Tony,

You're just spoilt having that in the workshop....

I love the look of that car.....

markk

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Recce car ian ?

Charlie Chalk

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Tony, How them arches modded? New panel? looks lovely

Tony Ryan

Hey Radders,
Its originally done by spooners , its like Ian describes really - an extra fillet but the outer panels are unique and hand made , its about 4" wider than a regular shell and allows the 305/645x 18" tyres under with acres to spare . the shells for sale afer the rolling gear goes soon too .

Chip

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They should have done the road car that width, just for the looks alone, stunning!

Charlie Chalk

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Cheers Tony

ian sibbert

Pics of the piece that's welded into the inner arch, as I said earlier, they are split and the outer arch jacked wider, I have seen some that have distorted during this process.....

PAUL S

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I was sat behind an old shape freelander the other day, and whilst it was only a quick glimpse, the rear end with cradle looked like it would adapt well to something like a p100 or project car and looked like it could be made quite adjustable

Maybe something to take a look at, I know the cars themselves are not the best but it could be a cheaper option for someone

GARETH T

can everyone stop posting these amazing cars!!!

costech

Ian
Stunning pic of your car it so shiny it´s hard to se were the
new metal stripe is welded in
It would be very nice of you if you could take a pic from the inside
of wheel arc so i can see the metal work from
the under side.
best reg jj

lacey

Hello, i aint read this all so i maybe saying some thing that already been said but as far as the wrc rear hubs go you can use the rear hubs off a chevron single seater car as i have been looking at doing this mod to my motor they are cast ,light and i have been told that they are about 100 pounds for raw castings which is evern better as you can get then machined out to suit cossy std rear bearing which in turn means they will take the other std cossy hub parts which has just had it a lot cheaper to every one ,also for the diff craddle i have been told that a free lander (or something like that) has a dif craddle abit like the wrc which would mean some moddeds to suit the diff you want and your away on the right track !

jacko

where are these bought from mate

8rxsv7oi

what rear hubs are they on page 1 of this thread, i am looking for some just like them?

M K

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They are gravel uprights as used on wrc/grpa cossies

Still made new by a few people,

I have them all round on my fiesta cosworth

Caddyshack

Interesting thread. On a road car would there be a huge benefit over a 6 degree beam? I know the geo would have more adjustment and the suspension travel would be better and more consistent but in reality on the public road would it justify the difference. I can see on a track then yes.

I can see that the dampers etc have a better travel too.

Any weight savings after you fabricate the fixings etc.