does removing baffles effect performance?
19-08-2008, 10:55 PM
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does removing baffles effect performance?
i heard fayes car the other week and thought it purred lovely, just wondering the pros and cons of no baffles? con being stupidly loud, pros being more free flowing?
19-08-2008, 11:14 PM
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The more turbos,more fun!
Ive got no baffles in the backbox of my Blitz Nur-spec, pulls a lot better imo and pops and bangs nicely.
Personally i love it now more than ever.
Personally i love it now more than ever.
19-08-2008, 11:34 PM
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The more turbos,more fun!
Mine did go alot louder when on full boost, but you get an awesome turbo whistle threw it which makes it so worth it.
On idle it just changed the tone you get.
On idle it just changed the tone you get.
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19-08-2008, 11:51 PM
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The more turbos,more fun!
I just had the backbox cut open, baffles pulled out then rewelded.
I only had mine done cos its common on Blitz's to have the baffles come loose and rattle.
I only had mine done cos its common on Blitz's to have the baffles come loose and rattle.
20-08-2008, 07:54 AM
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paul you do that and you aint ever gonna get on track apart from full noise days, alex' old cabrio was stupid loud
also you could have a issue on the MOT as if its louder than normal for the car it will fail unless you get a bent one
also a vosa check which are getting popular will also fail and should vosa check it the car will be impounded and has to be collected on a trailor and the MOT void and need trailering to a MOT place to pass again
also you could have a issue on the MOT as if its louder than normal for the car it will fail unless you get a bent one
also a vosa check which are getting popular will also fail and should vosa check it the car will be impounded and has to be collected on a trailor and the MOT void and need trailering to a MOT place to pass again
20-08-2008, 08:21 AM
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paul you do that and you aint ever gonna get on track apart from full noise days, alex' old cabrio was stupid loud
also you could have a issue on the MOT as if its louder than normal for the car it will fail unless you get a bent one
also a vosa check which are getting popular will also fail and should vosa check it the car will be impounded and has to be collected on a trailor and the MOT void and need trailering to a MOT place to pass again
also you could have a issue on the MOT as if its louder than normal for the car it will fail unless you get a bent one
also a vosa check which are getting popular will also fail and should vosa check it the car will be impounded and has to be collected on a trailor and the MOT void and need trailering to a MOT place to pass again
and RST-in-progress, get 2 back boxes 1 with baffles, 1 without and you've got the best of both worlds
20-08-2008, 08:25 AM
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Don't worry too much bout what Ginge's sayin, Alex's was loud (sounded identical to Faye's as same engine & same exhaust 
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Never had a problem MOT time or wit the plod. I de-baffled my old Cossie system & hated the sound of it !!
Not keen on Rs turbo's either if I'm honest, sounds nice low rev's, but full bore sounds orrible. honestly !! I had mine like that years & so did Alex, never had a prob.
Regarding power etc, you might find it a little laggy'er as less back pressure (back pressure helps spool on a decent system), so car might loose a little midrange, but gain power up the top !!
On an Rs turbo, I honestly don't think you can beat the sound of a Scorpion pipe !!
Hope this helps ya Paul !!
jb
) Never had a problem MOT time or wit the plod. I de-baffled my old Cossie system & hated the sound of it !!
Not keen on Rs turbo's either if I'm honest, sounds nice low rev's, but full bore sounds orrible. honestly !! I had mine like that years & so did Alex, never had a prob. Regarding power etc, you might find it a little laggy'er as less back pressure (back pressure helps spool on a decent system), so car might loose a little midrange, but gain power up the top !!
On an Rs turbo, I honestly don't think you can beat the sound of a Scorpion pipe !!
Hope this helps ya Paul !!
jb
20-08-2008, 08:28 AM
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what? everytime I've seen VOSA put a prohibition on some1's car they've been able to drive it home and drive it to a MOT station, you must have some pretty strict coppers up there!!
and RST-in-progress, get 2 back boxes 1 with baffles, 1 without and you've got the best of both worlds
and RST-in-progress, get 2 back boxes 1 with baffles, 1 without and you've got the best of both worlds
I think your talking about a VDRS, which is a Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme when the driver has 7 days to rectify the fault & have an MOT station stamp the order & then send it to the plod.
Hope this helps
jb
20-08-2008, 08:30 AM
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just finding my feet
they are getting alot stricter with the rules now aint anyone noticed
vosa if the car fails its NOT road legal and so is taken off you at YOUR expence
its not hard to tell either on a ERST with no baffles
getting another box is a option too though
also driving on motorways is gonna be fucking loud in a car with no sound deading, no carpet and no baffles
was bad enough in my old turbo cabrio and at 80mph, would drown out the stereo
vosa if the car fails its NOT road legal and so is taken off you at YOUR expence
its not hard to tell either on a ERST with no baffles
getting another box is a option too though
also driving on motorways is gonna be fucking loud in a car with no sound deading, no carpet and no baffles
was bad enough in my old turbo cabrio and at 80mph, would drown out the stereo
20-08-2008, 08:32 AM
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The more turbos,more fun!
20-08-2008, 08:34 AM
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Sizt, I think Ginge is refering to a car gettin a PG9, in which case the "vehicle" isn't allowed back on the road until it's passed a VOSA/MOT test again with the faults rectified.
I think your talking about a VDRS, which is a Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme when the driver has 7 days to rectify the fault & have an MOT station stamp the order & then send it to the plod.
Hope this helps
jb
I think your talking about a VDRS, which is a Vehicle Defect Rectification Scheme when the driver has 7 days to rectify the fault & have an MOT station stamp the order & then send it to the plod.
Hope this helps
jb
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
20-08-2008, 08:35 AM
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Don't worry too much bout what Ginge's sayin, Alex's was loud (sounded identical to Faye's as same engine & same exhaust )
Never had a problem MOT time or wit the plod. I de-baffled my old Cossie system & hated the sound of it !! Not keen on Rs turbo's either if I'm honest, sounds nice low rev's, but full bore sounds orrible. honestly !! I had mine like that years & so did Alex, never had a prob.
Regarding power etc, you might find it a little laggy'er as less back pressure (back pressure helps spool on a decent system), so car might loose a little midrange, but gain power up the top !!
On an Rs turbo, I honestly don't think you can beat the sound of a Scorpion pipe !!
Hope this helps ya Paul !!
jb
) Never had a problem MOT time or wit the plod. I de-baffled my old Cossie system & hated the sound of it !!
Not keen on Rs turbo's either if I'm honest, sounds nice low rev's, but full bore sounds orrible. honestly !! I had mine like that years & so did Alex, never had a prob. Regarding power etc, you might find it a little laggy'er as less back pressure (back pressure helps spool on a decent system), so car might loose a little midrange, but gain power up the top !!
On an Rs turbo, I honestly don't think you can beat the sound of a Scorpion pipe !!
Hope this helps ya Paul !!
jb
20-08-2008, 08:39 AM
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the reason i taking about it as pauls car is a 1.1 escort with no carpets, 2.0 zetec engine, roll cage, harnesses,,,, getting a vosa check aint gonna be treated like a bloke with a mondeo whos got a slightly loud exhaust remember
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
You do have a point, but still if were me I'd risk it. Paul might be different, I still get loadsa greif wit my small plate too !!
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20-08-2008, 08:40 AM
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The more turbos,more fun!
20-08-2008, 08:41 AM
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The more turbos,more fun!
the reason i taking about it as pauls car is a 1.1 escort with no carpets, 2.0 zetec engine, roll cage, harnesses,,,, getting a vosa check aint gonna be treated like a bloke with a mondeo whos got a slightly loud exhaust remember
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
20-08-2008, 08:49 AM
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just finding my feet
personally i aint bothered about most stuff in cars, its just that ONE time he does have it happen its gonna be a bitch to get sorted out and cost a few quid
i just am going by the grief of me getting my car back from the pound, that was vosa'd too and failed but was let off due to the car JUST having a MOT done the week before and it being a suspencted failed lambda
if they never i would have had to get it taken back to a OFF road location, from alperton to central london THEN towed to a MOT place and all faults fixed there at MY expence
btw when i say towed it HAS to have all wheels of the ground and can not be driven to a MOT !
on a stripped out imo they are just looking for reasons to take the car off, a straight through system is the EASIEST thing to do him on as they know it when they see him pass
20-08-2008, 09:10 AM
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mate im just pointing out a general view, rather than telling him " id risk it"
personally i aint bothered about most stuff in cars, its just that ONE time he does have it happen its gonna be a bitch to get sorted out and cost a few quid
i just am going by the grief of me getting my car back from the pound, that was vosa'd too and failed but was let off due to the car JUST having a MOT done the week before and it being a suspencted failed lambda
if they never i would have had to get it taken back to a OFF road location, from alperton to central london THEN towed to a MOT place and all faults fixed there at MY expence
btw when i say towed it HAS to have all wheels of the ground and can not be driven to a MOT !
on a stripped out imo they are just looking for reasons to take the car off, a straight through system is the EASIEST thing to do him on as they know it when they see him pass
personally i aint bothered about most stuff in cars, its just that ONE time he does have it happen its gonna be a bitch to get sorted out and cost a few quid
i just am going by the grief of me getting my car back from the pound, that was vosa'd too and failed but was let off due to the car JUST having a MOT done the week before and it being a suspencted failed lambda
if they never i would have had to get it taken back to a OFF road location, from alperton to central london THEN towed to a MOT place and all faults fixed there at MY expence
btw when i say towed it HAS to have all wheels of the ground and can not be driven to a MOT !
on a stripped out imo they are just looking for reasons to take the car off, a straight through system is the EASIEST thing to do him on as they know it when they see him pass
im glad i didnt get caught this morning then!!!
didnt know it was THAT strict!!!
drove 25-30 minutes to an exhaust place this morning.....
with a 2.0 zetec on carbs with a 4-2-1 manifold.... thats it
i tell you when we went under the tunnel in leeds the pops and BANGS could have deafened you....
beat that
20-08-2008, 09:15 AM
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i didnt realise it was that harsh either but they are being bastards these days
used to be the old bill pull you and you get 14 days to fix it
if vosa do it they can condem the car, take it in and either you scrap it for no charge ( they either scrap it or sell it on though, work that one out ! ) or you follow there CUNTISH rules and get the car back
i had to argue when they done mine based on the MOT, the fact i was insured when they took the car off me and it was a genuine error AND that they charged me overnight storage when the car turned up at 3pm and i was there from 12am !!!!
used to be the old bill pull you and you get 14 days to fix it
if vosa do it they can condem the car, take it in and either you scrap it for no charge ( they either scrap it or sell it on though, work that one out ! ) or you follow there CUNTISH rules and get the car back
i had to argue when they done mine based on the MOT, the fact i was insured when they took the car off me and it was a genuine error AND that they charged me overnight storage when the car turned up at 3pm and i was there from 12am !!!!
20-08-2008, 11:02 AM
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if you want to go near a track, keep it quiet. far too many people spoil th enjoyment they get from their cars if they cant pass noise regs 
i love the fact i can pass any noise reg on any track with zero hassle, its one less thing to worry about.
anyway, i like to be able to still hold a conversation with my passenger when gunning it. in JB's car for example you're fooked without an intercom
i love the fact i can pass any noise reg on any track with zero hassle, its one less thing to worry about.
anyway, i like to be able to still hold a conversation with my passenger when gunning it. in JB's car for example you're fooked without an intercom
20-08-2008, 12:06 PM
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I have had my exhaust on my car since i have had it 4 years now its a mongoose! Never had a problem with old bill maybe im lucky as i got a tiny plate to it was always well loud but since putting the 2.1 in with the T34 its just gone crazy loud and pops and bangs like someone's firing a gun sometimes Its a hell of a lot louder than Alex's scorpion was but i think its the turbo thats made it louder as he only used to run a T3. As i notice noise difference just through changing the turbo housing on my old engine! Is a bit of a drain on the motorway on long drive sometimes being a cabrio all i hear is the exhaust lol
Although nothing beats the drive home from clacton on sea when i first brought my car hey JB!! pmsl And it was only a 3i then
it was always well loud but since putting the 2.1 in with the T34 its just gone crazy loud and pops and bangs like someone's firing a gun sometimes Its a hell of a lot louder than Alex's scorpion was but i think its the turbo thats made it louder as he only used to run a T3. As i notice noise difference just through changing the turbo housing on my old engine! Is a bit of a drain on the motorway on long drive sometimes being a cabrio all i hear is the exhaust lolAlthough nothing beats the drive home from clacton on sea when i first brought my car hey JB!! pmsl And it was only a 3i then
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20-08-2008, 09:58 PM
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they are getting alot stricter with the rules now aint anyone noticed
vosa if the car fails its NOT road legal and so is taken off you at YOUR expence
its not hard to tell either on a ERST with no baffles
getting another box is a option too though
also driving on motorways is gonna be fucking loud in a car with no sound deading, no carpet and no baffles
was bad enough in my old turbo cabrio and at 80mph, would drown out the stereo
vosa if the car fails its NOT road legal and so is taken off you at YOUR expence
its not hard to tell either on a ERST with no baffles
getting another box is a option too though
also driving on motorways is gonna be fucking loud in a car with no sound deading, no carpet and no baffles
was bad enough in my old turbo cabrio and at 80mph, would drown out the stereo
20-08-2008, 10:01 PM
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the reason i taking about it as pauls car is a 1.1 escort with no carpets, 2.0 zetec engine, roll cage, harnesses,,,, getting a vosa check aint gonna be treated like a bloke with a mondeo whos got a slightly loud exhaust remember
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
considering the noise AND you wanna track it, IMO aint worth the hassle or risk
its like small plates, LOADS of people use em but some get hassle
21-08-2008, 01:22 AM
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21-08-2008, 01:46 AM
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sorry to hijack alittle..
fiesta rsts have a centre box as well as a back box, so would removing the baffle in my backbox have as much as an effect on back pressure as escort systems?, as i know turbo'd cars need a little.
ive got a pipercross backbox and it doesnt burble enough lol
fiesta rsts have a centre box as well as a back box, so would removing the baffle in my backbox have as much as an effect on back pressure as escort systems?, as i know turbo'd cars need a little.
ive got a pipercross backbox and it doesnt burble enough lol
21-08-2008, 07:35 AM
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Personally mate, I'd get rid of the centre box & leave the back box as is !!
Jus my opinion
jb
P.s. then change the back box for an Angel Singing Scorpion
Jus my opinion
jb
P.s. then change the back box for an Angel Singing Scorpion
21-08-2008, 02:53 PM
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21-08-2008, 02:56 PM
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just finding my feet
with the stuff on the car it aint gonna go your way as you are gonna be picked on more
i bet you motor would struggle a SVA like most cars
having a stripped out car looks worse on the eyes, old bill generally aint got a clue so will take the car off you till they are sure too these days
